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Jun 10th, 2011 03:18 AM
Phoenix Gamma Wii U is the sound Navi made when you locked on to enemies.

Seriously, what was up with that?
Jun 10th, 2011 02:33 AM
Esuohlim An NES, yeah, but that's how video games were back then. Most of the stuff I play on browser emulation sites () only entertains me for a few minutes before I want to try something else, unless I already have nostalgic ties to it.

Not much on the SNES or N64 really feels like shallow fluff, but they weren't really putting emphasis on multiplayer over single-player yet either. Now that they are it feels shallow again, and the single-player games just feel like dumb little diversions
Jun 10th, 2011 02:02 AM
Chojin
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My problem with this gimmicky stuff is that everything feels like a dumb little arcade game that you play for 10 minutes and move on. Nothing has depth anymore.
i guess you never owned an atari or nes
Jun 9th, 2011 01:09 PM
MarioRPG I'm not sure how to feel about this because I've had all the information relayed to me through friends. I didn't watch any e3 coverage or anything like that. It seems like a cool idea, I want to see where they go with it. Is the controller on batteries? If it is it seems like it would burn through those really fast. Also, it looks really big yo.
Jun 9th, 2011 04:19 AM
k0k0 The first thing I thought of when I heard the name was Kung Pow: Enter the Fist. Seems I'm not alone. Nintendo stocks are down 5 percent since the Wii U announcement to where they were before the wii launched.
Jun 9th, 2011 03:01 AM
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Jun 9th, 2011 12:31 AM
Zomboid I guess I'll have to see for myself, but you'd think that looking down every time you need to change some equipment (like in the water temple, where that happens every 30 seconds) would sort of leave you open to attacks on-screen.

Also, how many Wii games were compatible with the classic controller? I don't remember there being many.
Jun 8th, 2011 06:50 PM
Phoenix Gamma
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I don't want to be forced to use an iPad to manage my inventory in a Zelda game--but I'm assuming they'll realize that some people feel that way and give us the option.
Everyone's been adamant that it IMPROVES Ocarina of Time on the 3DS. I'm kinda inclined to agree, based on my time playing it at PAX East.
Jun 8th, 2011 04:29 PM
k0k0 In my opinion sony didn't need to change theirs. It works, it feels good to hold. The wii remote when turned sideways and held for games just feels unnatural and holding it like a television clicker feels wierd for a video game. This is all my opinion, but I've never liked the wiimotes. I don't like their new controller either, so they're in good company.
Jun 8th, 2011 04:19 PM
MattJack
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I think what gets me most about the Wii U is that the fans are stressing you can still use the old wiimotes. In which case, what the fuck is the point?
Yeah because Sony has drastically changed their controller format over the past 14 years
Jun 8th, 2011 03:15 PM
Esuohlim My problem with this gimmicky stuff is that everything feels like a dumb little arcade game that you play for 10 minutes and move on. Nothing has depth anymore. Honestly, I don't have much experience with the Wii but I can tell that they're really focusing on all these novelty multiplayer diversions at the expense fully fleshed out single-player games. But, yeah, I guess if you want that you go with PC games.
Jun 8th, 2011 03:07 PM
k0k0 It's because you can't use more than one Wii U controller. It only comes with 1 and it's not going to be purchasable. So to play anything multiplayer you need the wiimotes.
Jun 8th, 2011 02:56 PM
LordSappington I think what gets me most about the Wii U is that the fans are stressing you can still use the old wiimotes. In which case, what the fuck is the point?
Jun 8th, 2011 02:41 PM
Zomboid What's the deal with that sniper game--the one where they bullseye Miyamoto? I know Nintendo would never approve a game where you peer up into an apartment complex and assassinate Miis, but oddly enough, that sounds a little bit fun.

I understand both sides to this, but I think the main complaint that some of us are having is that this trend will force us to play games we like with all of these things added in. I can see myself enjoying a lot of what they do with it (though certainly not that stupid ninja star game), but I don't want to be forced to use an iPad to manage my inventory in a Zelda game--but I'm assuming they'll realize that some people feel that way and give us the option.

Also, I'm sorry, but that controller does not look comfortable to hold for long stretches of time.
Jun 8th, 2011 02:11 PM
k0k0 Same here Lord. I usually get the Microsoft console and then the playstation console later. If microsoft follows suit and makes something controllerless or with a wierd new controller, I am skipping their console this time and going with a playstation 4. And if sony does it, there's always suicide eh? My letter:
"The world of weird controllers is scary and new to me. I can't live in a world where I have to shake things or get off the couch. You did this to me microsoft and sony, but you fucked me most of all nintendo. Right in the ass. Goodbye."
Nah, it wouldn't come to that but I'd feel like I was kicked in the dick. I can't change my feeling about these kinds of 'innovations' that are ruining my regular play.
Jun 8th, 2011 01:12 PM
LordSappington After the Wii U, I'm sort of afraid of what the next xbox is going to be like. If it's an entirely motion-based system like the Wii, I'm going postal.
Jun 8th, 2011 12:37 PM
Mad Melvin Looks like a fucking joke. Yeah, can't wait to wrap my fingers around that huge lump of unergonomic plastic. And "Wii U"? What the hell. I hope Nintedo is at least planning to make some games for mature audiences and not the same casual crap, 'cause I'm guessing that touch screen isn't so resilient against punching from drunk idiots. Or little kids.
Jun 8th, 2011 10:34 AM
mew barios it feels like they're marketing this thing directly to me because it's exactly what i personally want, something with a lot of unique potential that can also be totally ignored at the whim of the developer.

i am concerned about cost and how good those things will hold up to being dropped though :<
Jun 8th, 2011 07:46 AM
Phoenix Gamma
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If you want really want to play games, then get a PC. I'd never give my PC up for a console, and anybody who acts like gaming is better on consoles is ignorant at best.
I love my PC, and I do a lot more gaming on it now that I have one I built myself, but one complaint about the PC is that I honestly prefer to sit back on a couch than hunch over my desk. Yea, I could run an HDMI from my computer to a TV, but they're in separate rooms, and I'm not lugging that fucker all the way over there.

That, and consoles have too many exclusives for me to ignore them outright, and I don't see a PS3 emulator coming out any time soon
Jun 8th, 2011 07:28 AM
Fathom Zero I think it's the next logical step for Nintendo, since controllers you plug into your brain don't really exist yet and the camera-based systems are sucking big time. Then again, motion control did too, for the Wii.

I think our way of thinking's dying out - sitting with a controller and buttons in hand. And I suppose it's only right that it should.
Jun 8th, 2011 06:08 AM
Chojin
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I mean I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on, but my main point is if you are such a hardcore gamer mayng then why are you even fucking with shit consoles to begin with?
yeah, pretty much. i understand why consoles like the 360 and PS3 exist--it's a far better value per dollar than a PC and doesn't require years of experience to operate without making everything explode. but that's pretty much the definition of a "casual": little commitment and easy.

my PS3 mostly gets trotted out to watch downloaded videos on the tv. my 360 basically never gets turned on, because i'm terrified it'll combust and they want me to pay twice to play online, but i do use it to test XNA programs I write. out of the last generation, I used my Wii the most because I felt it legitimately had the better games and I have no interest in 300+ indistinguishable war shooters.
Jun 8th, 2011 05:55 AM
Chojin I think the concept with this console is that there's a controller you can do a lot of shit with, but at the same time doesn't require you to do anything different than a regular controller. Part of the problem with Wii is that a developer really had to commit to the platform with a game, because using the controller well meant that the game was unportable to other systems (both in terms of graphics and controls).

I don't understand why the hardcore contingent is pissing all over this when it's basically what they've been criticizing nintendo for not doing--it's a regular controller that you could play any 360 or PS3 game with, but it's also got some extra functionality if developers choose to use it.

In the worst-case scenario, devs will only use the screen for its ability to make the game portable, and for what they're already using the 2nd screen on the DS for. In the best-case scenario, people will actually use the screen creatively as shown in the video. Either way, I'm ok with that.

The screen in the middle reminds me a lot of the intellivision and colecovision style controllers, where you needed a card to label the 12 buttons. I think a controller like this is what people were thinking the future would be like back in the early 80s. It's an ironic retro future, like george jetson's voice-activated typewriter.
Jun 8th, 2011 05:03 AM
Zhukov I guess there are some pretty fair points there, and you are right to say that innovation (whatever brings it about) is certainly better than being stale.

I do prefer games on the PC, but don't have an overly powerful one. My fault, though, not Nintendos. I do prefer to battle through a tough game rather than have fun. Fuck fun.

I suppose what I am more against is the trend as opposed to the style of this particular new gadget, and what it stands for. I still think it looks dumb and will probably feel dumb, and I'll never be bothered to use half the features they pump into it, or promise to pump into it, but the thing that bothers me personally is the FEAR (yes, fear) that my PC styled games are going to follow the trend just like Microsoft and Sony.

I suppose it is a step forward, somewhere, and that's certainly better than pumping out the same games with better graphics. Even though that's all people want some times, myself included.

In closing I would like to say that I'd still rather play Zelda with a normal controller, and if it allows me, well good. I'll then just stick to scoffing at the casual games that are shit, and hoping all games don't go down that cash cow path.
Jun 8th, 2011 04:15 AM
MattJack Also, I think only one line at a time.

Sometimes two, but really only one at a time for the most part.
Jun 8th, 2011 04:14 AM
MattJack lul im not even a Nintendo fanboy buttttttt

I'm going against the grain it looks like in this thread.

I like it, and I think it can open up a lot of cool possibilities. I'm rather glad that they will keep stepping in a different direction rather than just try to make a different version of something that already exists (PS and XBX).

The Xbox and PS consoles are just Pepsi and Coke to me. It really doesn't matter which I play because the quality of game, controls, and titles seem to be mirror images of each other (we have both here in the house). Touching on the controls a bit further, if you dislike the Wii control so much, then simply buy the add-on controller.

And yes, there are a lot of gimmicky things you can purchase for the Wii, but you should understand the things you'll need if you are smarter than an 8 year old.

The Wii just doesn't compare to either because it's a different beast (for better or worse). Bottom line is that we have more fun on the Wii than any console in the house. If we have a party or get together you think my girl and her friends will want to get down on on some Street Fighter IV? How about some COD (yuck)? How about even being open to any games at all?

Shit no.

Let me bust out some Mario Party 8 or Wii Sports and then, gasp, watch people stop talking on the patio with drinks and come get down.

The Nintendo has a wider audience and it is definitely a lot more casual. That's why I like them a lot. I like the touch screen. It opens up so many cool possibilities and it is going to trail blaze a new path. Much like the Wii did.

While Sony and Microsoft fanboys were hatin' their companies were cooking up recycled ideas that Nintendo had years before. Fact.

If you want really want to play games, then get a PC. I'd never give my PC up for a console, and anybody who acts like gaming is better on consoles is ignorant at best.

Bad Company 2? Yeah I'll play on PS3 with sub-par graphics and a map with six people in it.

Oblivion, Fallout, GTA? Yeah, that's totally not better on PC..

Want to play a great RTS? Let's load up the Xbox360 Elite! They have tons of great RTS titles! Oh wait..

I mean I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on, but my main point is if you are such a hardcore gamer mayng then why are you even fucking with shit consoles to begin with?

Nintendo is doing the right thing by not trying to get in a pissing match with Sony and Microsoft. They will continue to build a strong fan base for years due to their uniqueness. Meanwhile, console gamers will be jumping from ship to ship when the PS4 and Xbox 1080 are released.

Don't worry, if the Wii U has even a fair amount of success, watch for Sony and MS to be trying to "innovate" some shit. Like the Kinect or Move

You can take that to the bank.

I'll go with the Wii U and yall tell me how the Sony Vita is working out for ya (and that ATT contract)

Once again, I'm not even a Nintendo fanboy. I will say that consoles are good for one thing: Mother fucking fighting games.

PS: If you play CoD, I hope your fingers get permanently mangled by your dad's asshole.
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