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Sep 30th, 2006 11:18 PM
Courage the Cowardly Dog
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Originally Posted by El Blanco
Did a former president go on national TV and dmit he hired contract killers for an assassination?
Well yeah, he even fired missiles at him and got a few places around him but missed him in particular.

I think Clinton did a spectacular job trying his best to attack Bin laden and fight the pre 9/11 war on terror as best he could. I think the pre 9/11 republicans were to complacent and now they are doing their best but may be inneffective.

If you blame Clinton's administration for doing to little, in a time where he was risking war to go after a then barely known terrorist you are blind and partisan.

Maybe Clinton was mad and was over the top in his repsponse but damn it he was right in everything he said. Keep in mind I'm usually a republican but I gotta suppert Bill on this cause he's right.
Sep 30th, 2006 03:55 PM
kahljorn Geggy is hilarious.
Sep 30th, 2006 12:31 PM
Geggy Donna Marsh O'Conner Issues An Open Letter to Bill Clinton

911blogger.com

We received the following letter this evening from Donna Marsh O'Connor, mother of Vanessa Lang Langer who died in WTC Tower II, 93rd floor on 9/11. Please be sure to click 'read more' for the entire letter. Comments to this thread are allowed, but anything which I deem at all inappropriate will be removed.

An Open Letter to Bill Clinton from a 9/11 Mother

Dear President Clinton,

This is a letter explaining to you in, I hope, explicitly simple detail why I feared your eventual speaking out almost as much as I feared one more minute of the reign of Dick Cheney and George W. Bush. But first I have to say, with absolute clarity, from the bottom of my soul, heart, in fact the very soles of my feet, thank you for finally, finally, five years too late to be sure, but finally, telling the truth about 9/11/2001.

If interested in continuing you can read the rest of the letter here
http://205.234.134.46/node/3289
Sep 29th, 2006 04:37 PM
Preechr Keving got a cush job as an official food tester for a pool of notable congressmen. Now he's all fat and mean like Vince.
Sep 29th, 2006 01:42 PM
mburbank Don't forget all the free food. Before my brother got married and started going home for dinner, he just used to drop in on whatever official dinners were being held for the cocktail hour and feast on taxpayer funded hour duerves. Or has security conciousness put an end to all that?
Sep 29th, 2006 09:30 AM
sspadowsky I knew it. Kevin's a beltway insider now.
Sep 29th, 2006 09:23 AM
KevinTheOmnivore It's DC, man, it changes you. Remember the movie Wallstreet? It's like that, but in Washington. I'm surrounded by interns and free blow and it warps you, man.

Sep 29th, 2006 09:19 AM
sspadowsky
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Originally Posted by KevinTheOmnivore
I think 'likeable' = knee-jerk Leftist on this board.

That is all.
No, 'likeable'= 'used to have a sense of humor and used to not have a superiority complex.'

That's what I meant by 'likeable,' anyway.
Sep 29th, 2006 09:15 AM
mburbank I think you find pigeonholes more useful with each passing day. And I'm cetain that is not all.
Sep 29th, 2006 08:06 AM
KevinTheOmnivore I think 'likeable' = knee-jerk Leftist on this board.

That is all.
Sep 28th, 2006 11:21 PM
Miss Modular
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Originally Posted by sspadowsky
I will now address Kevin directly.

I don't know what happened to you, man. You used to be a likeable guy. I'm not sure if this change in your personality coincided with your move to DC, but it seems it was about that time that I noticed you acting a little differently, and it became more noticeable over time.
I second this. That is all.
Sep 28th, 2006 03:02 PM
mburbank I'm sorry, you may have been looking for clown alley, but you seem to have made a wrong turn into douchebag dead end. You didn't 'cross the line' deliberately, you're just an ass. That's not some calculated choice, it's who you are.
Sep 28th, 2006 02:31 PM
sspadowsky "Yeah, I could be less of a dick, but I won't, 'cause you won't know the stuff that I tell you you're supposed to know if you wanna be smart like me."

You could have just typed that, and saved some time.
Sep 28th, 2006 02:21 PM
Abcdxxxx Okay well I attempted to go back on topic, but that didn't work so here are some thoughts:

I totally crossed the line, and did so intentionally. You get what you put out. I can't ridicule the personal details of his life unless he's brought them to the table in this section of the forum to begin with.

We've been talking about the same shit for 6 years now - if someone wants to play dumb and go in circles, as if this is the first time these topics have come up, with little development or reference to the topic in an assemblance of evolving conversation, then they're just clowning around.... I can either repeat the same shit, or take the conversation down clown alley, where they're most comfortable. Either way, I can claim to have grown assier over the years , but has Burbank really become any more clever, OR informed? I wouldn't mind taking these conversations back to the days when we sourced our arguments, and kept a conversation going in one thread rather then 20. There were personal insults, and ethnic slurs, but while I posed outrage, I could give a fuck really. Nothing posted in this forum has ever offended me.
(I do think it's totally presumtious to call her a "totally innocent 12 year old", as few 12 years olds are totally innocent these days, right Burby?) Now if that offends anyone, and they want these conversations to stick to solid debates, with sourced factual arguments that differenetiate between opinions, and historical truths - well I'd love that...I'm perfectly capable, and welcome it. I'm not putting in that effort when people just make drive by posts, or launch into HeeHaw schtick. In other words, I doubt we're going to raise the bar of discourse here anytime soon. The majority of posters just aren't really capable. So really, let's just be honest about what this forum is an outlet for. All that said, if I don't like it, I can go post elsewhere - I respect Kevin's moderation, because the guys got a brain and far more patience to deal with You People then I ever could.

p.s. since we're getting our priorities straight, maybe we could sticky some topics of heavy debate so they don't distract from the mocking about , instead of the other way around?
Sep 28th, 2006 11:26 AM
sspadowsky

That's more like it.
Sep 28th, 2006 11:25 AM
KevinTheOmnivore And with that, the spotted Sspad will return to eight months of hibernation.
Sep 28th, 2006 11:11 AM
sspadowsky
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Originally Posted by Ant10708
Sspad took Kevin's post way to seriousy.
YOU TAKE THAT BACK, YOU DIRTY MOTHERF-

Oh, wait.

No, I didn't take it too seriously. I took it as an opportunity to needle Kevin, because I thought his behavior was silly and arrogant. Arrogant, even for Kevin, and that's something of an achievement.

I find arrogance and condescension far more offensive than anything a guy could say about another guy's parenting qualities. And when I think someone is getting too full of himself, I take the opportunity to call him on it. It's fun and entertaining, particularly because arrogant people are unable to laugh at themselves, and easier to annoy.

In the interest of not being passive-aggressive, I will now address Kevin directly.

I don't know what happened to you, man. You used to be a likeable guy. I'm not sure if this change in your personality coincided with your move to DC, but it seems it was about that time that I noticed you acting a little differently, and it became more noticeable over time.

I don't see humor in what you post anymore; just a lot of venom, vitriol, name-calling and the like. So when you whipped out your internet authority badge, it seemed like a good time to suggest that you might be taking this just a teensy bit too seriously.

I've spoken my piece, and I will now drop it.
Sep 28th, 2006 10:55 AM
mburbank Off topic. I have made a whole new thread for this.
Sep 28th, 2006 10:51 AM
Ant10708 Sspad took Kevin's post way to seriousy.
Sep 28th, 2006 09:46 AM
mburbank And in an attempt to keep the thread from derailing, the thread has been uttrly derailed. And not by me, or even Alphaboy, I might add, although as long as this thread is not yet locked, I will say that Alphaboy is almost certainly a terrible individual, but that does not mean his penis is neccesarily small and useless.

I intend to start another thread to discuss the political aspects of moderatorship. Lets move that discussion there. Or at least try harder to.

Oh, and I totally agree with Sspad. While this forum shouldn't be general blabber, it is politics, religion, news and MOCKERY! If I wated politics without the Mockery, I'd read stinky old poli sci journals.

Alphaboy, any thoughts on the merits, or has all the gas leaked out of your bag?
Sep 28th, 2006 07:08 AM
sspadowsky
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Originally Posted by Max
"Then again...with every rant you make on the internet, it's one less minute you can spend ruining your daughters life."
-Alphababedwetter

Well said, Alphaboy! An eloquent example of why young men of quality like yourself should have free reign over the tubes of the Internet. Seriously, do you have any self respect? Do you know what you sound like when you write something like that? Why would anyone take your opinions about anything seriously when you are obviosuly such an unpleasant person, 'Dude'?
There it is. Max addressed it, succinctly, and in adult fashion.

Furthermore, I already agreed that it was uncalled for. If you dig back through the history of this board, you'll see that I've been one of the most vocal when pointing out that Abcd is an asshole. I've been on this board a long time, Preech, and am well aware of how things can get out of hand, and am very well aware of the dynamic on the Philo board as opposed to the others. That is why I spend most of my time on I-mock here, as opposed to the other boards. I just thought Kevin overreacted to it. If the guy is posting anal fisting porn, or spamming his website, by all means, call in the board police.

While I would imagine that Max appreciates the sentiment, he's demonstrated over and over that he doesn't need anyone else coming to his defense.
Sep 28th, 2006 05:28 AM
Preechr I vote with Kevin. That was uncalled for.

I'll be first in line to pick on Kevin for his inflated ego, but keeping discussions at least somewhat civil and on topic is what a mod is supposed to do. Abcdxxxx crossed a line, and now the discussion is about that instead of whatever the topic was. As you said, sspad, now it's virtual pinata time if anybody's interested, but this board has mods just in case nobody cares about civility and decency. You seem to be more offended that Kevin is enforcing I-mock's rules than you are that somebody broke them in a cheap attempt to get out of a conversation without admitting he was wrong.

Not everybody here is twelve years old, and some of us yo-yos enjoy talking things through on a more adult level. Maybe you just don't understand where the line was crossed, or why that line exists where it does. Don't feel bad. General Blabber is jam-packed with teeny-boppers that can't make a point without flinging shit. As they get older, most of them will grow to understand that there's a time and a place for flinging shit, and some shit you just probably shouldn't fling if you want to stay at the adult table.

There's a big difference between name-calling and mocking someone's fatherhood. Kevin gets that, and apparently you don't. There are some rules I guess I'm not as comfortable relying on you and the rest of the mob to enforce, and maybe that's a good example of why. Since Kevin is the mod for "Philosophy/Sociology/Religion/Politics/News/etc." and not the food forum, I'm thinking the Admins here agree that at least in this part of the board, the shit-flinging should be a little more limited here at the adult table than it is in the other forums.
Sep 27th, 2006 08:31 PM
Abcdxxxx i'll just pull a geggy, and say this article touches on a few points...

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...e.asp?ID=24328
Sep 27th, 2006 06:55 PM
sspadowsky No sweat, buddy.
Sep 27th, 2006 06:52 PM
KevinTheOmnivore Cool, thanks for your input.
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