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| Feb 8th, 2007 03:09 AM | |||
| DeadKennedys |
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| Jan 30th, 2007 01:07 PM | |||
| El Blanco | Lazio never had a chance. Rudy held on too long when everyone knew he was going to have to drop out. | ||
| Jan 30th, 2007 12:49 PM | |||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
I'm also from NY, and it would be a mistake to confuse the North Country for the rural South. Not entirely the same. Also, while she did work very hard in the upstate region that year, she also benefited from a weak opponent. Rudy became ill, and has never really proven to be a good political candidate beyond NYC (hint, hint!). And Lazio was just pathetic..... Whoever she faces in 2008, if she gets the nomination, will be much better than Lazio. |
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| Jan 29th, 2007 11:49 PM | |||
| Abcdxxxx |
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| Jan 29th, 2007 10:59 PM | |||
| Grislygus | Yep, she sure does prove that women can hold their own in politics. She's exactly the same as every other topical scuzzbag of a politician. I offer her my heartiest congradulations. | ||
| Jan 29th, 2007 10:49 PM | |||
| cerrone2789 |
Well, take this into account: I live in upstate NY (read: hick-land), and I can say from experience that EVERYONE hated Hillary immensely when she first showed up (and frankly, for no reason except that she's a woman and the vast male majority feels emasculated by a woman in power). But her attention to detail and excellence at playing both sides of the political spectrum (rural economics and urban social issues) has kept her way ahead on the popularity curve. Frankly, it doesn't matter how much of a hick you are and how much of a pussy liberal the person you are voting for is as long as you can look forward to a better standard of living and protection from big companies: Hillary really provided all those things in NY. I think she stands a chance. I don't think she'll win... but she just might if Bush keeps fucking up and the country starts to wax nostalgic for the days of Clinton. And let's face it: open a history book and the answer lies before you: most every woman who has ever ruled a nation has been astoundingly successful. |
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| Jan 24th, 2007 03:20 PM | |||
| adept_ninja | i dont even think you have to go as far as the white supremacists i think the average joe would not exactly be cool with either of them. I live around a bunch of red necks so maybe my view of the world is a bit scewed but I think that the average american would see as Hillary as not looking out for the intrest of the average american and i believe that if Obama won the south would Secessed much like if Al Gore won. | ||
| Jan 23rd, 2007 06:48 PM | |||
| Grislygus | I would absolutely LOVE for the white supremacists to make a huge deal out of Obama's skin color. Watch everyone squirm and try to disassociate themselves! | ||
| Jan 23rd, 2007 04:35 PM | |||
| adept_ninja | Does anyone else think that in our time there is no way a black man or a woman would ever be president? Not saying that im against it but there is no way it will happen and i believe people will vote against them just so they cant win. | ||
| Jan 23rd, 2007 08:56 AM | |||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
Looks like Obama has lost the Jihad vote. btw, all that stuff about him going to a madrassa in Indonesia has proven to be false. |
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| Jan 23rd, 2007 01:30 AM | |||
| Abcdxxxx | If you're born to a Muslim father you're always Muslim in their eyes....turning your back on the religion is the worst offense possible. | ||
| Jan 22nd, 2007 11:33 PM | |||
| Emu | I remember reading that his father had died when he was real young and his mom was a semi-religious agnostic kind of thing. I can't be bothered to research this so you'll just have to take my word for it ok | ||
| Jan 22nd, 2007 08:57 PM | |||
| Abcdxxxx | And apparently his father is Muslim. | ||
| Jan 22nd, 2007 07:45 PM | |||
| Preechr | That's not what Hillary... I mean Hillary's campaign... was saying last week. They said he was educated in a madrassa school in Indonesia. | ||
| Jan 22nd, 2007 06:38 PM | |||
| Emu |
I thought Obama was raised quasi-religious and his mother took him to all kinds of different temples and churches when he was younger. At least, that's what his biography excerpt in Time said. 
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| Jan 22nd, 2007 06:35 PM | |||
| Abcdxxxx |
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I don't Hilary will be their first choice, but since they don't have a transgender candidate on the ballot yet, she'll do. The Kos Kids don't seem to want to bash her, which is telling. Let's replay what happened last election.... people were endorsing candidates based on how much they hated their opposition... Al Sharpton was too black and too psychotic for them, even though he said all the right things.... and the Left didn't really put their heart into getting Nader elected, instead opting to try and subvert Kerry's campaign. There were full time employees (I mean activists) from every Leftist group you can name sitting online just spamming Kerry's internet forums all day long hoping it would influence his positions. So if Hilary does get the Leftist support, it's not going to be so much that they like or trust her so much as they think they can work her. Oh and as for Obama....as if it wasn't enough he's an interacial robot with a funny name - he's also a proud Christian who was originally raised Muslim. |
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| Jan 22nd, 2007 03:02 PM | |||
| Grislygus | That's just a spit 'n bluster issue. | ||
| Jan 22nd, 2007 12:03 PM | |||
| ArrowX |
you're all forgetting the REAL issue here. She wants to make ridiculously strict laws governing the sale of video games because its causing all the problems now. edit: sarcasm |
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| Jan 22nd, 2007 11:44 AM | |||
| Preechr |
The left's blogoshere is the reason that "redeployment" has entered the political lexicon. The term means whatever you wish it to. We can redeploy troops to ther places in Iraq or Afghanistan, or we can redeploy them to Okinawa or back home. Redeployment is going to be a part of whatever we do in Iraq. Saying you are for that means nothing, but it has the potential to make anyone that hears it think you have a plan they'll agree with. As long as the activist wing of the party remains happy with "redeployment" as a strategy for the war, she can ride the fence. I don't see the Republicans letting that happen after the primaries are over, though. I doubt disagreements on war strategy will be a factor in the Dem's primaries, though I think it'll be the focus of the Republican candidates during their scrimmage. |
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| Jan 22nd, 2007 11:12 AM | |||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
She will need to run tough. SHe will be as hawkish as possible, without upsetting the anti-war activists too much. But upsetting some of them is a risk she's probably willing to take, because they won't be worth a damn in a general election anyway. It's an unfortunate double standard, but in order for a woman to run for this office, she needs to be Margaret Thatcher. If she's mean well than she's a bitch. If she's sweet and soft spoken then she's too soft to lead. She can't be too cute, and she can't be a bitch. Hillary handles this fine line very well, but her campaign will constantly be keeping this in mind. I think Edwards has the labor union crowd right now, but they'll fall in line behind whoever the candidate may ultiamtely be. |
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| Jan 22nd, 2007 09:52 AM | |||
| mburbank |
I can't speak for the ACLU, but I'd put money on the table that Moveon.org won't back her for the nomination unless they back someone else firts and she crushes them. I think Hillary deciding to run shows that her bubble, while nowhere near as reality impervious as W's is pretty damn good. Concider this: Whatever her much ballyhooed support, Pretty much all my personal cohort loathe her, and we are NOT the far left fringe. We are the 'Dennis Kuccinich is a very bright, nice guy, but why is he bothering' Left. Mod made the point. To Left of center voters who actually listen to her instead of just getting a woody 'cause she's woman, a Clinton and a Democrat, she sounds not just way too close to the center, she sounds full of shit. She wants to triangulate ala Bill, but she's utterly charmless. In addition, she'll need to fight a too front war as the R's favorite target accused of being a commie liberal and a large chunk of the D's calling her a sellout, which by the way I think she is. She may cause a bitter battle amongst party money elite, but I'll be very, very surprised if she even ends of doing well in anything accept the money and media attention races. And I think right now in our hostory, despite the VAST importance of money and media, niether one has a clue where the country is. Power and punditry have spent the last two years being dragged to the table of actual public opinion kicking and screaming. |
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| Jan 22nd, 2007 06:26 AM | |||
| Abcdxxxx | I think it's safe to predict the ACLU, and Move On will pick Hillary above the others.... so in that regard, she will play the role of Leftist candidate irregardless. Guilliani is the only candidate that makes that crowd turn red, and if it ends up with the two of them head to head we already know how it ends.... he get's cancer and moves in with some queers. | ||
| Jan 22nd, 2007 02:00 AM | |||
| ranxer | what a mess | ||
| Jan 21st, 2007 05:16 PM | |||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
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A December Newsweek poll showed her as the only Democrat who can beat McCain and Rudy head on. Quote:
Wherever the party wind blows, so blows she (except for voting for Iraq)[/quote] |
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| Jan 21st, 2007 03:48 PM | |||
| DehydratedPorkMan | Forget what I said about McCain. He votes for more troops. There goes my vote. | ||
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