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Feb 12th, 2004 04:04 PM
Helm Artificial made me lol two times in a row.
Feb 12th, 2004 01:24 PM
Brandon I honestly don't mind the music all that much, just the weiner scenesters who have turned it into a way of life.

XPRETENTIOUSCRAPX
Feb 12th, 2004 12:33 PM
Bobo Adobo
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Originally Posted by Darko
Yeah, I have no idea what was meant by that.
I meant you should go to a psychiatrist, and what does "head shrinker" have to do with the 50's? I've heard that term alot, I must live in 50's land.
Feb 12th, 2004 10:49 AM
Brandon XHEADSHRINKERX
Feb 12th, 2004 09:23 AM
Darko Yeah, I have no idea what was meant by that.
Feb 12th, 2004 05:12 AM
Dole "Any of you "Hardcore" suburbanites ever concider going to a head shrinker, as apposed to losing brain cells, and making/listening to bad music?"

-Ever considered enrolling in spelling classes? 'Head Shrinker'?? Did we just go back to the fifties?
Feb 12th, 2004 01:43 AM
Brandon XSUBURBANITESX
Feb 11th, 2004 11:58 PM
Darko
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you can do whatever you want, thrash around like an idiot and look like a fool...THATS THE POINT. You should feel comfortable expressing yourself anyway you want, and not expected to be judged on your dancing skills. Its all about freeform self expression, baby.
Agreed, you look like an idiot no matter what you do. Might as well do it how YOU want to do it.
Feb 11th, 2004 01:08 PM
Mr. Vagiclean DDR is about testing one's dexterity or doing something when a good song is going on... around everyone that cares to look i guess. Also good for an exercise i heard
Feb 11th, 2004 01:05 PM
Bobo Adobo Any of you "Hardcore" suburbanites ever concider going to a head shrinker, as apposed to losing brain cells, and making/listening to bad music? :/
Feb 11th, 2004 11:17 AM
Dole Dont roll your eyes at me, you seductive hairy greek temptress you.

Am alarmed to discover I have written a convincing justification for DDR
Feb 11th, 2004 10:50 AM
Helm Okay, Dole
Feb 11th, 2004 10:30 AM
Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Dole
Yes, anyone slamming looks like a goon, but one of the fundamentals of hardcore is that is doesnt matter- you can do whatever you want, thrash around like an idiot and look like a fool...THATS THE POINT. You should feel comfortable expressing yourself anyway you want, and not expected to be judged on your dancing skills. Its all about freeform self expression, baby.
I'VE HAD IT RIGHT THIS WHOLE TIME ALL ALONG
Feb 11th, 2004 10:09 AM
Dole "What's this picking up change thing you're talking about? "

Hardcore kids have notoriously baggy jeans/pockets. Large amounts of change inevitably fall on the dance floor. Each gig has a designated collector. Its a bigger earner than ebay for some.
Feb 11th, 2004 07:21 AM
whoreable parents just dont understand
Feb 11th, 2004 06:56 AM
Helm What's this picking up change thing you're talking about? I seriously don't understand.

And I don't go to concerts to feed off agression. I go so I can listen to some good music.
Feb 11th, 2004 06:24 AM
Dole Being a hardcore listener of some 17 years standing , I prefer the old days when it was just slamming as opposed to all the kickboxing/martial arts demonstration that goes on these days.
Yes, anyone slamming looks like a goon, but one of the fundamentals of hardcore is that is doesnt matter- you can do whatever you want, thrash around like an idiot and look like a fool...THATS THE POINT. You should feel comfortable expressing yourself anyway you want, and not expected to be judged on your dancing skills. Its all about freeform self expression, baby.
Feb 11th, 2004 12:39 AM
Perndog Randomly slamming into one another may be painful and can't be the smartest thing to do, but it doesn't really look stupid and it at least serves the purposes of 1) energizing people, 2) satisfying aggression.

"Dancing" to hardcore music, on the other hand, is basically just a way to look like a goon. I seriously doubt that looking like a goon makes the music any more enjoyable (as if there were something to build on in the first place).
Feb 11th, 2004 12:31 AM
Darko Yeah, and just randomly slamming into one another is a more sensible solution to the mosh pit.

Regardless, you're going to look like an idiot no matter what you do.
Feb 10th, 2004 06:43 PM
Perndog I shouldn't need to say this, but the "dancing" ("picking up change" and all that idiotic crap) that hardcore kids do at concerts is possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. Disco dancers look more dignified.
Feb 10th, 2004 01:40 PM
Darko Yet, it's a tried and true formula.

If you're looking at more punk rock oriented music, like 80s styled hardcore, or what the crusties like to call hardcore, a breakdown is exactly what Helm described. But this kind of part is refered to as a "Two Step" to new school hardcore tough guys. This is the part where you see people picking up change or doing a dance that is almost identical to skanking, but they call it a two-step because it sounds tougher that way.

A breakdown in the hardcore scene is usually the most rhymatic, punchy parts of a song. Usually done via open chord muting. They're simplistic and usually easy to play, but they are very energetic and get crowds moving.
Feb 10th, 2004 08:09 AM
Helm Going into Half speed on the snare (the snare sets the speed of the song, obviously, so it sounds like they're slowing down), lots of tom-work on the drums while the guitarist engage into downstroked chord simplicity and the singer does his bit with jumping around and passing the mike or something. It's a stupid concept because in most hardcore music, playing "fast" and then doing your "breakdown" is as far as their knowledge and application of dynamics goes.
Feb 10th, 2004 01:33 AM
Perndog So what's a breakdown in popular music? Obviously not the same thing it is in jazz...enlighten me.
Feb 10th, 2004 12:05 AM
Darko Pyorrea, you couldn't be farther from the truth.

The suffix "core" denotes that the music has a root in hardcore, which could also mean quite a few things, depending on your look of the underground music scene. Some refer to hardcore as agressive punk rock, there's a form of crust music which those kids refer to as hardcore (Tragedy, etc) , and then you have the hardcore scene which is too much to get into right now.

Placing the term "core" on something does not mean it has "breakdowns." And breakdowns were not invented in the crust genre of music. It came from 80s hardcore, and evolved into a shitload of meanings depending on what part of the "scene" you fall into.
Feb 9th, 2004 06:42 PM
Helm bouncy breakdowns. There are breakdowns that sound like someone twisted your spine around and kicked you in the head for good measure and there's nothing 'core' about them.
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