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Jun 23rd, 2004 06:53 PM
KevinTheOmnivore Gilles Duceppe Leader of the Bloc Quebecois (score = 100)

Jack Layton Leader of the New Democratic Party of Canada (score= 100)

Stephen Harper Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada (score = 58)

Paul Martin Leader of Liberal Party of Canada, Prime Minister of Canada (score = 42)
Jun 23rd, 2004 05:45 PM
Zebra 3 ONTARIO

35036 – KINGSTON AND THE ISLANDS (8)

ELSTON, Rosie The Clown (Independent) - Unlike the other candidates, she said she'll break her promises.
FISHER BALFOUR, Janina (Green Party)
HUTCHISON, Rob (N.D.P.)
MacLEAN, Blair (Conservative)
MARSHALL, Terry (Christian Heritage Party)
MILLIKEN, Peter (Liberal)
ROGERS, Don (Canadian Action)
WALKER, Karl Eric (Independent)
Jun 21st, 2004 01:57 PM
Anonymous Why does it matter to you since you live in Texas anyway? ;<

I just find myself hating more and more of what this country's now about every day.
Jun 21st, 2004 11:40 AM
ItalianStereotype Stephen Harper Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada (score=100)
Paul Martin Leader of Liberal Party of Canada (score=56)
Gilles Duceppe Leader of the Bloc Quebecois (score=11)
Jack Layton Leader of the New Democratic Party of Canada (score=11)

it's good to see you taking part in the politics forum, Chojin, but I hate all this talk of moving.
Jun 21st, 2004 06:04 AM
Anonymous Jack Layton Leader of the New Democratic Party of Canada (score = 100)
Gilles Duceppe Leader of the Bloc Quebecois (score = 89)
Stephen Harper Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada (score = 56)
Paul Martin Leader of Liberal Party of Canada, Prime Minister of Canada (score = 33)

I might be moving to Canada soon anyway, provided I can't scrape together the money to get to Australia.
Jun 20th, 2004 08:10 PM
The One and Only... 100% for Harper.
Jun 20th, 2004 11:20 AM
AChimp It was a good quiz to steal.
Jun 20th, 2004 11:07 AM
Royal Tenenbaum Chimp stole my quiz! :o Either way, it's a pretty cool quiz, and I, surprising enough, got a 100 for Layton. Hmm, not so surprising perhaps. Apparently a preliminary agreement has already been reached by the Liberals and NDP to form a coalition if they can. It'll be interesting if Martin gets to stay PM even if the Conservatives have more seats than Liberal's. It's really up to the Governer-General and how she uses her prerogative powers, ie. whether she asks Martin to step down and allows Harper to govern anyway. Somehow I doubt that would happen, since she was appointed by Liberals, so I'm really crossing my fingers on a Liberal-NDP government.
Jun 20th, 2004 10:48 AM
Zebra 3
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Originally Posted by Big Papa Goat
Bah, what make the reform party so regional?
- Besides their politics not much I guess...

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Couldn't you say the same thing about the Liberal party, except that they happen to have a hold over a more populous region?
- The Liberal Party of Canada is a truly national party not only for its ideology, but for having MPs from every Canadian region, which includes drunken King Ralph's kingdom aka. the Canadian province of Alberta.

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Thats what I hate about Ontarions, they think they're the only real Canadians
- Wrong again. The chosen ones don't think it - they know it.
Jun 20th, 2004 03:22 AM
Big Papa Goat Bah, what make the reform party so regional? Couldn't you say the same thing about the Liberal party, except that they happen to have a hold over a more populous region? Thats what I hate about Ontarions, they think they're the only real Canadians
If you're all so much more Canadian, you should just kick the rest of us out, and form a new Canada, and the rest of us can just be The Confederation formerly known as Canada
Bah I'm drunk, but you get the gist of it
Jun 20th, 2004 03:16 AM
Big Papa Goat
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Originally Posted by Walter Simard
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Originally Posted by Big Papa Goat
I'm voting Green just so they can enough votes to qualify for federal funding.
Federal funding is usually based on the amount of MPs in the House and not on the vote count, which means by the most optimistic polls, the Green Party can possibly win one to two seats which is short of at least 10 more MPs required to reach official party status and this means they'll get no federal funding.
I just heard that funding would be given to any party with >2% of the country or 5% of a ridiing.
Jun 19th, 2004 06:24 PM
Zebra 3
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Originally Posted by AChimp
It said I should be voting for Duceppe, but I can't in Manitoba.
- People make mistakes, machines don't. There's plenty of time to move to Quebec. First, you'll need to get familiar with the Bloc's platform: BlocQuébécois.org, try to learn the lyrics to Gens du Pays cause they'll be singing this for sure on election night and a French phrase for quick service at restaurants: Un smoke meat, une grosse poutine et une Laurentide, sti!

- As for myself, it's Layton at 100, Martin at 73, Duceppe at 67 and Harper at 13.
Jun 19th, 2004 05:45 PM
AChimp The same way that I can be "all for" Duceppe but totally against separatists.
Jun 19th, 2004 05:25 PM
Baalzamon wow, I am a 100% match with jack layton , with duceppe in second with 68, harper 58 and martin 42

how am I more of a match with harper than with martin when I am left leaning?
Jun 19th, 2004 04:46 PM
AChimp http://www.politicswatch.com/VoteSelectorQuiz2004.html

OMG FANCY QUIZ

It said I should be voting for Duceppe, but I can't in Manitoba.
Jun 19th, 2004 01:01 PM
AChimp Heh, yeah. I forgot to mention what Walter just said.
Jun 19th, 2004 12:56 PM
Zebra 3
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Originally Posted by KevinTheOmnivore
I got the impression that this is what the late Reform Party was all about. Have more "libertarian" voters been absored into the conservative coalition....?
- The Reform/Alliance/New Conservative Party is actually a right-wing regional party trying to pass off as a national one. Their hardcore support has always been the far right-wing Alberta members/supporters of the Progresssive Conservative Party with even a few neo-Nazis to boot.
Jun 19th, 2004 12:49 PM
AChimp
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I got the impression that this is what the late Reform Party was all about. Have more "libertarian" voters been absored into the conservative coalition....?
Ehh... there aren't really any "libertarians" in Canada. The people that label themselves with that term do so and vote for the Conservatives.

You have to look at it this way: every major political party in Canada is really just a different flavour of centre. Some are to the left, others are to the right. The parties that don't get elected are the fringe parties that are truly left or truly right, and voters view them as too radical.

The Liberals make a good balance because they are right on some issues and left on others; in the end, it may not make everyone happy but you have a higher level of people who say the government is doing "okay." Better to have 70% of the population saying that you're doing "okay" than 40% saying you're awesome and the remaining 60% hating your guts. Canadians like being in the middle.

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I read a recent speech by Martin, and it just amazes me that a politician can stand up and talk of welfare state policies the same way our president can talk about "hard working Americans" and how much we love freedom and shit.....
Well, a country won't function as effectively as it could if half of the people are living in relative squalor compared to the rest. So we're not as rich as Americans... at least we are happier on the whole. :P
Jun 19th, 2004 12:11 PM
KevinTheOmnivore
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Originally Posted by The One and Only...
Is there a party for Canadian libertarians?
I got the impression that this is what the late Reform Party was all about. Have more "libertarian" voters been absored into the conservative coalition....?

Furthermore, what numbers could they possibly even represent? BPG said it bothered him that the Liberals claimed to represent Canadian values, but as far as I can tell, they in fact do. I read a recent speech by Martin, and it just amazes me that a politician can stand up and talk of welfare state policies the same way our president can talk about "hard working Americans" and how much we love freedom and shit.....
Jun 19th, 2004 12:05 PM
Zebra 3
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Originally Posted by AChimp
Yeah, the libertarians are nutjobs that stand on street corners and preach about the end of the world. They usually only run provincially, and you phone the police when they knock on your door.
- The one I spoken to was just two blocks away from the Peace Tower and that's too close for my personal comfort. I say the Mounties should round them up and ship them off to Frobisher Bay.

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Originally Posted by The One and Only...
What about the "Freedom" party of Canada, which is really libertarian but for some reason associates that title with anarchists?
- They'll only have candidates by 2008. Their fuckin' site: FreedomParty.ca

- Nobody gives a shit about them except for window repairmen and the police and maybe, just maybe you can learn something from the following quote.

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Originally Posted by AChimp
The Liberals are really the only ones fit to run the country, though. The Conservatives would fuck shit up, and the NDP would make us all paupers.
Jun 19th, 2004 09:02 AM
Brandon
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Originally Posted by The One and Only...
What about the "Freedom" party of Canada, which is really libertarian but for some reason associates that title with anarchists?
What about them?
Jun 19th, 2004 09:01 AM
The One and Only... What about the "Freedom" party of Canada, which is really libertarian but for some reason associates that title with anarchists?
Jun 19th, 2004 08:34 AM
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Jun 19th, 2004 07:28 AM
Anonymous I don't think I'm ever leaving this forum again, as long as administrator Helm is in charge. :serious
Jun 19th, 2004 01:31 AM
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