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Old Dec 9th, 2004, 08:46 AM        Bill O'Reilly: Canada is ruining Christmas
I can't believe he feels he can get away with being "moral" and using terms like "secular progressives" after that Sexual Harassment Lawsuit.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,140742,00.html


Christmas under siege — the big picture. That is the subject of this evening's "Talking Points Memo."

All over the country, Christmas is taking flak. In Denver this past weekend, no religious floats were permitted in the holiday parade there. In New York City, Mayor Bloomberg unveiled the holiday tree and no Christian Christmas symbols are allowed in the public schools. Federated Department Stores, [that's] Macy's, have done away with the Christmas greeting, "Merry Christmas."

Now, all of this anti-Christian stuff is absurd, and may even be a bias situation. But the real reason it's happening has little to do with Christmas and everything to do with organized religion.

Secular progressives realize that America as it is now will never approve of gay marriage, partial birth abortion, euthanasia, legalized drugs, income redistribution through taxation, and many other progressive visions because of religious opposition.

But if the secularists can destroy religion in the public arena, the brave new progressive world is a possibility. That's what happened in Canada.

• In 1980, 79 percent of Canadians said that religion was important for the nation there. That number has now dropped to 61percent.

• In 1971, less than one percent of the Canadian population reported having no religion. That number has now risen to 16 percent.

The fall of religion in Canada has corresponded to the rise in progressive public policy. Most Canadians now favor gay marriage. The age of consent for sex is 14 years. That means if you're an adult and you have sex with a 15-year-old, that's fine.

Welfare's double what it is in the USA. And the Canadian military is almost non-existent.

Drug decriminalization is a reality, as is any kind of abortion. The Canadian model is what progressive Americans are shooting for. Thus, Christian displays like Christmas must be scaled back because the connection with Judeo-Christian beliefs is bad for the secular agenda.

Now most people, of course, love Christmas and want to keep its traditions, but the secular movement has influence in the media, among some judges and politicians. Americans will lose their country if they don't begin to take action. Any assault on Judeo-Christian philosophy should be fought.

Organizations like Thomasmoore.org and the Alliance Defense Fund in Phoenix are fighting back, but need your help. Billoreilly.com has information on that.

"Talking Points" is convinced that the USA cannot defeat terrorism and any other evil without a strong, traditional foundation that clearly defines right from wrong. The struggle today is not about Christmas, but about the spirit of our country.

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No, I'm serious. Why does he feel he can get off with this?
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Old Dec 9th, 2004, 09:16 AM       
What can I say? We're all godless communist terrorists up here.
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Old Dec 9th, 2004, 09:19 AM       
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Old Dec 9th, 2004, 10:49 AM       
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Old Dec 9th, 2004, 11:57 AM       
Ha to anyone not from Canada.
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Old Dec 9th, 2004, 12:34 PM        Re: Bill O'Reilly: Canada is ruining Christmas
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The age of consent for sex is 14 years. That means if you're an adult and you have sex with a 15-year-old, that's fine.
How come nobody told me this?? Mothers, lock up your daughters!!
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Old Dec 9th, 2004, 12:51 PM       
"Drug decriminalization is a reality, as is any kind of abortion. The Canadian model is what progressive Americans are shooting for. Thus, Christian displays like Christmas must be scaled back because the connection with Judeo-Christian beliefs is bad for the secular agenda."

Oh my god, what godless heathens!

Seriously, someone needs to ask Bill to compare Canada's murder rate to the US. Maybe for a milisecond he will think these "Secular Progressives" are actually on to something.

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Old Dec 9th, 2004, 03:54 PM       
Or maybe... just maybe... much of this is covered by those pesky little words "... shall pass no law respecting an establishment of religion ...".


I can't believe that the right wing (or what's left of it. I mean right of it. I mean remains of it. I mean you certainly know what i mean) is actually turning the recent push for respect of the religiously indifferent text of the constitution and the recognition of the secular nature of the winter solstice holidays into some hereticular movement involving the deconstruction of organized religion.

I mean, especially since this is supposedly geared towards rampant civil equality (Hell on Earth, clearly) weakening our nation's military (heaven fucking forbid) and giving the lowest economic classes government assistance (horrors exemplified).


Now that I read that last paragraph, I wonder whose point he's trying to prove.


(and this is all without mentioning that the real point of what he's saying is that nobody wants to be like Canada)
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Old Dec 9th, 2004, 03:59 PM       
Oh, and if I really wanted to be a dick about it I could mention how...

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... might kind of be something akin to John Kerry "belittling the involvement of our many allies in the multinational cohilition."
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Old Dec 9th, 2004, 04:08 PM       
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And not to sound too much like Kevin, but isn't Denver the capital city of a red state anyway?
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Old Dec 9th, 2004, 04:32 PM       
'Religion rules the law, but liberal scum still ruins my fun in the streets!'

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Old Dec 9th, 2004, 05:49 PM       
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And not to sound too much like Kevin, but isn't Denver the capital city of a red state anyway?
Denver isn't very Red.
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Old Dec 9th, 2004, 11:52 PM       
Colorado itself isn't really red either. Its still considered somewhat of a swing state.
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Old Dec 21st, 2004, 02:01 PM        Re: Bill O'Reilly: Canada is ruining Christmas
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• In 1971, less than one percent of the Canadian population reported having no religion. That number has now risen to 16 percent.
- The Fair & Balanced Perv® fails to mention that 14% of Americans in recent polls reported having no religion, but most importantly, though Jesus is a Jew, Santa Claus is Canadian.
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Old Dec 21st, 2004, 03:32 PM       
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Now most people, of course, love Christmas and want to keep its traditions, but the secular movement has influence in the media, among some judges and politicians. Americans will lose their country if they don't begin to take action. Any assault on Judeo-Christian philosophy should be fought.
Yeah. Like fucking who? How long can the conservatives keep playing the 'poor wittle underdog' card? Aww is the big mean liberal bullying you in your own country where you control every aspect of government?

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Old Dec 21st, 2004, 07:52 PM       
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Secular progressives realize that America as it is now will never approve of gay marriage, partial birth abortion, euthanasia, legalized drugs, income redistribution through taxation, and many other progressive visions because of religious opposition.
I though legalizing drugs is a firmly conservative point of view. With smaller government and all. Or do I got it wrong?

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Cuz we bombed the hell out of them!!! am i rite guyz?!?!?!?
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