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The One and Only... · #1

If we do not rid Venezuela of Chavez, the country is going to go into deep, rabid poverty.

I call for an elimination of Chavez before he hurts his economy even more.

I'm serious. This guy publicly neglects any economic theory in his actions. If you look at Venezuela's economy during his reign, it has, quite literally, imploded upon itself.

Now he's going for a smash-and-grab on his banks, forcing them to loan to poor farmers. That may sound nice to Zhukov, but the victims know that the farmers will not be able to pay off these debts. We have a little something called "bank failure" when that happens. Maybe his friend Castro will bail him out.

ranxer · #2

damn, i was hoping you never decided to post about him, i figured you'd be against him.. by yer opinion on most things you sound like a member of pnac, which is it yer religion or racism or are you financially tied to culture war?

i believe chavez to be a peoples president.. not at all like here,
his opposition seems to be pretty well funded i hope they continue to fail. there may be a peoples revolution there if they succeed

Buffalo Tom · #3

If we do not rid America of George W. Bush, the country is going to go into deep, rabid poverty.

I call for an elimination of Bush before he hurts his economy even more.

I'm serious. This guy publicly neglects any economic theory in his actions. If you look at America's economy during his reign, it is, quite literally, on the verge of imploding upon itself.

Now he's going for a smash-and-grab on his country's social security pool, forcing average working citizens to fund his tax cuts which will benefit only the rich. That may sound nice to Cliff, but the victims know that this 'robbing Peter to pay Paul' will put America further into debt . We have little somethings called "bankruptcy" and "economic failure" when that happens. Maybe he thinks his dad will bail him out.

Brandon · #4

YOU KNOW WHO I HATE?

CHAVEZ!

YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE?

ECONOMIC THEORY!

Emu · #5

INDEED!

mburbank · #6

We must eliminate OAO.

The One and Only... · #7

Except that, Tom, that simply isn't true. The economy has far from imploded under Bush. It has recovered. And while Bush may not be an expert on economics himself, he has advisors.

Tom, you may not understand why the government borrows money during a recession, or why the tax cuts benefit more than just the rich, but that's okay. Mommy will make it all better while you live inside your ivory tower. Social Security will still come back to give you presents under your tree at Christmas. It's not like it hasn't ALWAYS been virtually bankrupt...

Chavez is a joke. His people are starting to hate him. The intelligensia within the country deplore him. He's a gigantic mockery of socialism.

Buffalo Tom · #8

How can Chavez be blamed for supposed ruinous policies? He is, after all, simply a figure head, and not responsible for the conduct of his underlings.

You ought to invest in Johnson & Johnson because you'll need a whack of BandAids for when the shards fall in your glass house. Brain-addled blowhard.

Buffalo Tom · #9

Bush is a joke. His people are starting to hate him. The intelligensia within the country deplore him. He's a gigantic mockery of capitalism.

Brandon · #10

I STILL HATE THAT FUCKING CHAVEZ.

sspadowsky · #11

OH, AND BUFFALOTOM LANDS A RIGHT CROSS, AND OAO IS DOWN AGAIN! THE HUMANITY, PEOPLE! OH, THE HUMANITY!

Dole · #12

"Mommy will make it all better while you live inside your ivory tower."

-you absolute fucking hypocrite.

mburbank · #13

I'm not sure, but I sort of think the fate of Chavez should be up to the people he currently represents, (or doesn't, depending on your view of him).

If you seriously think "We" ought to "Eliminate" him, you are basically advocating our official dominance of the world, in in this regard I don't doubt for an instant that you admire Bush. But you're just a little hosebag weiner totsally in love withyourself and years away from even having the vote. You currently have no impact whatsoever in any way and one can always hope you either develope morally, mentally and spiritually or that in the words of Grover Norquist, someone finds you 'small enough' to 'drown in a bathtub'.

You supposedly favor free market Laissez faire capitalism. What exactly strikes you as laissez faire about 'eliminating' the leader of another country. Your just another egomaniacal closet facist with dellusions of grandeur.

Buffalo Tom · #14

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You supposedly favor free market Laissez faire capitalism. What exactly strikes you as laissez faire about 'eliminating' the leader of another country. Your just another egomaniacal closet facist with dellusions of grandeur.

And he's probably a stinky pants too!

The One and Only... · #15

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How can Chavez be blamed for supposed ruinous policies? He is, after all, simply a figure head, and not responsible for the conduct of his underlings.

Nice try, but, you know, Chavez doesn't even listen to his advisors. How could he be a figurehead when there is no political machine to control his actions? Hint: there isn't. You are taking things way out of context.

What Chavez's underlings have done, Chavez has authorized. This isn't a matter of a slip in intelligence; this is deliberate take-over.

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Bush is a joke.

So are his opponents.

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His people are starting to hate him.

Then why is he doing well in polls?

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The intelligensia within the country deplore him.

Not true.

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He's a gigantic mockery of capitalism.

He's barely a capitalist.

Laissez-faire only applies to capitalism, not to foreign affairs. Also, the thing I despise the most about this world is governmentally-enforced multiculturalism. And to be quite frank, the people of Venezuela don't like Chavez either - so I can't see your point in saying that we don't have the right to tell Venezuelans what to do.

Buffalo Tom · #16

You're a laissez-faire liberal who advocates an interventionist foreign policy to force regime changes in other countries? That's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one, with an emphasis on the 'moron'.

Where's your evidence that Venezuelan electorate is against Chavez? From the stories I've read, the general strike last year was fuelled by petroleum interests who were hurt by the Chavez government's move to nationalize the oil industry. Admittedly, I don't know much about the situation, other than Venezuela has been throwing a wrench in American-led efforts to create an interncontinental free trade zone. Still, you haven't presented compelling arguments to justify the idiotic action you're proposing. For a supposed student of history who has such an extensive base of worldly experiences from which to draw at the age of 15, you've done nothing but make Frankenstein-like pronouncements of 'water good, fire bad' in this, and in all, discussions.

Seriously, I know a good prostate surgeon who might be able to remove that huge pickle in your butt. Dweeb.

The One and Only... · #17

I'm not advocating a war. I'm advocating a subtle assassination by revolutionaries. Yes, that's it. The United States does not even need to get involved...

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...12/63045.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2317219.stm

He may have some supporters, but it should be clear to you that the majority, particularly the educated, are angry.

To confirm this, click here.

"his popularity has plunged to below 30 percent because of frustration with a stagnant economy and rising crime."

But my problem with Chavez goes beyond this. I'm seriously afraid that he will, somehow, change the constitution so that he will remain the president for his life. The strong opposition will likely stop this, but still...

Look. Eliminate does not necessarily mean murder or removed from political power. That I was half jesting about. My point is that he needs to be contained. We need a contingency plan incase he gets out of hand. Because this isn't the middle east - this is just south of the border.

Anonymous · #18

Hmm...

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I'm not advocating a war. I'm advocating a subtle assassination by revolutionaries.

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Look. Eliminate does not necessarily mean murder or removed from political power.

I suppose now he's going to ask me to define assassination.

Brandon · #19

Here's a classic OAO:

"YOU HAVE A VERY NARROW DEFINITION OF ASSASSINATION."

The One and Only... · #20

Did you not read the line "That I was half jesting about"?

Actually, I was using the narrow version of assassination anyway. All we needed was a muslim and some hash...

Anonymous · #21

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Did you not read the line "That I was half jesting about"?

Yes; you're half serious about wanting Chavez assassinated.

AChimp · #22

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Look. Eliminate does not necessarily mean murder or removed from political power. That I was half jesting about. My point is that he needs to be contained. We need a contingency plan incase he gets out of hand. Because this isn't the middle east - this is just south of the border.