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Old Jan 15th, 2004, 04:30 AM        anyone remember?
does anybody remember back when the Poli/Philo. board was still entertaining? back before OaO turned it into a massive explanation of the tax code and when Vince was still the sputtering fool that so rarely appears these days?

I do...

we discussed religion and history

made fun of vince for being poor

watched vince jabber on about something...I didn't really read the thread

talked about Hitler

discussed ideologies

and we made...fun...of...vince

why, vince even had a few friends over for a playdate!

thems were the days
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Old Jan 15th, 2004, 09:23 AM       
its cos that precocious little shit has the message board equivalent (and a very pretentious strain of) verbal diarrhoea
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Old Jan 15th, 2004, 09:54 AM       
I coulkd wacth your avatar all day. Is "Pussycat" on DVD?
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Old Jan 15th, 2004, 10:18 AM       
I'm sorry, I was looking at the nice lady's bottom, what did you say?
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Old Jan 15th, 2004, 11:08 AM       
We also discussed my philosophy

And here's what I was looking for last night.
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Old Jan 15th, 2004, 08:01 PM       
Mod, why were you looking for that thread? any historimical junk I can help you with?
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Old Jan 16th, 2004, 01:04 AM       
I was actually thinking about boning up on World History now that I'm out of school. It would give me something to do.
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Old Jan 16th, 2004, 05:30 PM       
Actually, right now, I'm interested in Italy during the 16th and 17th centuries. Surely you could help there.
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Old Jan 16th, 2004, 06:38 PM       
do you want to know about Italy in general, a particular state, or the Holy See?
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Old Jan 16th, 2004, 10:39 PM       
Well, it's not Hitler, but OAO did praise Pinochet in a thread a few months back.
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Old Jan 16th, 2004, 11:28 PM       
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do you want to know about Italy in general, a particular state, or the Holy See?
Basically the first--I'm interested in the political and social climate of the period.
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Old Jan 16th, 2004, 11:29 PM       
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Old Jan 17th, 2004, 12:03 AM       
hmm...that's not the easiest thing to tackle, Mod. until 1861 (1870 if you count the unification with Rome), there was no unified Italian state; it was a band of micro-states that lacked even the loose confederacy that the Holy Roman Empire had. if this is your topic of interest, my suggestions are:

The Prince
Origins of the State in Italy: 1300-1600 (VERY DRY READ)
Francesco Guicciardini's A History of Italy
The Rise and Fall of House Medici
Venice
Venice: The Hinge of Europe
The Renaissance Popes
The Borgias
Venice: City, Republic, and Empire
Pulci's Morgante and Medici Politics
The Pope's Elephant (I haven't read it, but I've heard good things)
Church and Politics in Renaissance Italy

that should give you a pretty solid basic knowledge of 16th and 17th century Italy, but I'll try to find more for you.
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Old Jan 17th, 2004, 12:57 AM       
Well, thank you sir. I'm pretty sure that The Borgias and the Renaisscance Popes would come in handy.
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