Good metal groups

[Helm]

children of bodom are worthless. Carpathian Forest also. Most black metal is, generally.

Death are good on Scream Bloody Gore, Leprosy, Human (awesome) and Symbolic, for me, although I can listen to Preserverance without much problem too.

as to good black metal, early Emperor are good. Gehenna are good. Enslaved are good. Weakling are good. In The Woods... are good. Ulver are good. Weakling are good. Leviathan are good.