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Zomboid · #1

Gears of war was fun. Stop fucking acting like every game sucks unless it is incredibly over the top with either nintendo icons or gay anime shit, has NICE, BRIGHT COLORS, and motion sensitive controls.

I'd agree that mass effect was one of the best games of the year. Fuck, even the xbox live arcade gets some really good games. Braid and castle crashers kick ass.

Guitar Woman · #2

I act like games suck when they do

Like Gears of War

Guitar Woman · #3

Thanks for reminding me about WiiWare games, btw. See? Wii does too have some good stuff.

Zomboid · #4

Yeah, there's a whole shitload of great stuff on there. Oh yeah, there's only megaman 9

I have that on xbox live.

Your opinion on games is shit. If not because you're a vapid shit, then because you fucking flip flop on anything you say anyway.

Guitar Woman · #5

Zomboid responding with namecalling and hostility to a perfectly valid and neutral point?

Inconceivable!

Tadao · #6

Yeah and Diablo is an awesome game!

Guitar Woman · #7

Diablo 3 looks pretty good

Zomboid · #8

Are you really that fucking dumb, or do you just not know how to read? Your "valid point" was shot down. Wiiware has fuck all for games. OMG POKEMON FARM! YAAAAAAY! More kiddy nintendo shit. Whaaaat fun. The only other thing on there that is worth a shot is possibly the strong bad game.

Secondary point is: Your opinion is null because you can't even stand by your own arguments. You bitch and complain forever about something, and then a day later you go back on it and say you're wrong. Oh, and you sometimes toss in a :<

Guitar Woman · #9

Zomboid, how bout you make a list of games that I supposedly only like because the bright and flashing colors keep me amused, and I'll give you valid reasons as to why they are fantastic?

Then you can establish in a civil manner, to me, why Gears of War and all that chaff is, in fact, not boring, unoriginal, and repetitive as hell.

There are also plenty of neat WiiWare games to play if you bother to look!

The Dr Mario thing, Defend Your Castle, Strongbad's Cool Game for Attractive People, Megaman, Art Style: Orbient, etc.

Zomboid · #10

The fact that the wii is the only console you owns means that most of the shit you play already fits that bill. Thanks.

Gears of war is just a fun game. It's fast-paced, involves strategy on the higher difficulty levels and multiplayer, and the setting is fucking cool. It's like the guys from Predator got tossed into a war with an amalgamation of every cool alien race. It's not the be-all, end-all game that some people claim it to be, but it's fun and people still play it. The fact that it's got a very active multiplayer community means that it's yet another notch above every single wii game.

Guitar Woman · #11

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involves strategy on the higher difficulty levels and multiplayer

One multiplayer strategy, along the lines of "get to the torque bow first," and one single player strategy, involving crouching behind cover waiting for your chance to pick everything off slowly, laboriously, tediously, from a distance. That's why I didn't like playing Mass Effect, either. Or any third person shooters that take after Gears.

World of Warcraft also has a very active online community, Zomboid, but under no circumstances does that make it a good game.

I hate to compare apples to oranges here, but in the online department Mario Strikers has any number of hilarious and humiliating ways to kick your adversary's arse, most of which are satisfying as hell to pull off, and counterable, provided you know what the hell you're doing; so, games between equally matched players can and will go on for ages and ages. It is intense as hell and the most fun I've ever had with a multiplayer game. I'm not just ducking behind cover and shooting some moron who has a smaller gun than me, I am matched on a level playing field of wits and resources, and then through strategy and cunning I cut his head off and smash it onto a pike with my gigantic BATTLE MALLET. That's what every multiplayer game should feel like.

The only comparable thing to it is winning a heated game of Starcraft against some obsessive Korean kid. Except you need way better reflexes.

Zomboid · #12

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Originally Posted by Guitar Woman

One multiplayer strategy, along the lines of "get to the torque bow first," and one single player strategy, involving crouching behind cover waiting for your chance to pick everything off slowly, laboriously, tediously, from a distance. That's why I didn't like playing Mass Effect, either. Or any third person shooters that take after Gears.

World of Warcraft also has a very active online community, Zomboid, but under no circumstances does that make it a good game.

I hate to compare apples to oranges here, but in the online department Mario Strikers has any number of hilarious and humiliating ways to kick your adversary's arse, most of which are satisfying as hell to pull off, and counterable, provided you know what the hell you're doing; so, games between equally matched players can and will go on for ages and ages. It is intense as hell and the most fun I've ever had with a multiplayer game. I'm not just ducking behind cover and shooting some moron who has a smaller gun than me, I am matched on a level playing field of wits and resources, and then through strategy and cunning I cut his head off and smash it onto a pike with my gigantic BATTLE MALLET. That's what every multiplayer game should feel like.

The only comparable thing to it is winning a heated game of Starcraft against some obsessive Korean kid. Except you need way better reflexes.

I'm gonna be honest here: I skimmed that. What I got was that multiplayer doesn't equal good and that you don't like the strategy involved in any shooters.

Oh well. That sucks for you then, because it doesn't look like anything is gonna be changing on THEIR side. You enjoy your one good game a year, though.

I'd say that I should be playing games right now instead of arguing, but if I'm fucking around doing this, I don't feel as bad not doing my homework than I would if I were playing a game.

MetalMilitia · #13

GoW may not be that original from a setting/storyline perspective but what sets it apart is the quality. Everything about the game is really well done - the graphics, the animations, the cover system. Besides, people like games about space marines killing aliens, just like people like games about nazis and zombies.

I like that original games are made (Portal/TF2 etc) but I don't think you should have originality for the sake of originality. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

Guitar Woman · #14

Large amounts of polish in everything is sort of a granted quality for games these days, though, so if it doesn't do something other than that I'm not too inclined to be interested.

Also, every game and their dog is about World War 2 and Space Marines; I can understand that people like that stuff. I like stuff, too, but I wouldn't want every game ever to be about surreal, foggy, haunted tourist towns and Joe-Normal protagonists braving the horrors within, it'd just get boring.

Zomboid · #15

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Large amounts of polish in everything is sort of a granted quality for games these days, though, so if it doesn't do something other than that I'm not too inclined to be interested.

Also, every game and their dog is about World War 2 and Space Marines; I can understand that people like that stuff. I like stuff, too, but I wouldn't want every game ever to be about surreal, foggy, haunted tourist towns and Joe-Normal protagonists braving the horrors within, it'd just get boring.

Yeah, large amounts of polish is a granted quality for games these days except for most games on the wii. GoW just one-upped a bunch of games with certain things, which is why it became so popular.

Not every game is the same because it contains some base attributes that other games contain as well. I don't see why that is hard for you.

Guitar Woman · #16

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Originally Posted by Zomboid

Yeah, large amounts of polish is a granted quality for games these days except for most games on the wii. GoW just one-upped a bunch of games with certain things, which is why it became so popular.

Not every game is the same because it contains some base attributes that other games contain as well. I don't see why that is hard for you.

Firstly, lack of games with good visual and design quality is a huge problem with the Wii for me, and a complaint I've voiced before. Everything on it looks like a fucking Dreamcast game, despite the fact that it's graphically capable of Resident Evil 4's visuals, which still hold up pretty well. You're still acting like I'm touting the Wii as the best thing since sliced bread. I'm not; it's as shitty and flawed as all the other consoles on the market. The PS3 is probably the only one I don't have a srs beef with.

Secondly, yes they are. Yeah, one game is about space marines killing aliens that look like burn victims, and another game is about space marines killing aliens that look like anthropomorphic elephants, but it's still the same old played out bullshit we've seen a million times before. You are nitpicking to a ridiculous degree by arguing that these small differences make the games completely fresh and original experiences.

Is it too much to ask that people do something different once in a while? Sometimes I want games about psychic summer camps and brain harvesting, or assassins with seven personalities, or wapanese losers who win lightsabers off of internet auctions. Or galactic princes rolling shit up into balls and launching them into space, or wandering swordsmen scaling monsters the size of skyscrapers and murdering them to resurrect a dead girlfriend, or a bunch of dorky, psychic kids setting out to kill an evil space abortion from the future.

I hate to be constantly sucking Yahtzee Crowshaw's dick, here, but he summed my thoughts up pretty well when he said "20 years ago, back in the 8-bit era, games could be about French chefs riding giant stick insects weilding a gun that shoots velociraptors. These days a game's considered original if the gritty, well armored soldier protagonist has a moustache."

MetalMilitia · #17

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Added: indeed a quick check of metacritic shows that of the 271 games listed for Wii, 217 score below 75% ( the arbitrary number game reviewers give to "average" games).

Guitar Woman · #18

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Zomboid · #19

SO MM, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT'S COMING OUT SOON?

Zomboid · #20

ON THE TOPIC OF A HORROR THEMED FPS:

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Originally Posted by Guitar Woman

System Shock 2 and Doom 3 is what I think, but I liked both of those.

Well, ok, one of those. It does look pretty interesting.

Yeah, I am sooooo sick of all of these similar games! I want some originality!

Guitar Woman · #21

Isn't Dead Space a third person shooter

Guitar Woman · #22

I also said it LOOKS interesting. It might actually turn out to suck, either because of fathead developers or EA's grand and amazing publishment routines.

As long as the gameplay is fun and they try to expand on System Shock's "surrounded by hostile aliens and a batshit insane AI while also trapped in space" setting, taking it to new and interesting places, I'm sure it'll be peaches.