Feb 27th, 2003, 11:43 AM
"It does."
I'm glad you agree.
"But that isn't what you're talking about at all, unless you're lumping Proto together with Child Molesters in your deffinition of "Fake Christians""
In my opinion he has something in common with them in that he is not really a Christian....He's not, in my opinion, like them in any other way and my words are in no meant to be an insult. I'm not saying he's the same as a child molester except in that one sense.
"I'll leave aside the fact that you just ruled out a prominent feature of Christianity, the possibility of contrition."
No I haven't.
"You don't like the taste of it, but it's clear when you use phrases like 'real american' and 'real christian', you're a zealot. And zealotry? A pretty tiny box. But it's always good to know you are sure enough you are without sin to be comfortable casting stones."
I'm not uncomfortable with that term. The term "zealot" does not have a negative connotation. To be zealous can be a good thing just as much as a bad thing. And it's not a tiny box, you should know since you spend most of your time in one. Also, I sin plenty. Just as much as any other man. Being sinless is impossible and wouldn't get to any closer to GOD anyway. Sin itself really doesn't even factor in. I give it all to GOD and am forgiven. This can happen when you have a real relationship with Christ.
And believe me, you aren't the first person to refer to a Christian as a zealot. It's actually a compliment.
"A.) I make no pretense I'm not. Ronnie, in case you may have missed it, I am tweaking your nose on purpose."
You're not "tweaking" anything. Just rambling. It's fun to watch spin around in your little box.
"B.) While a little adolescent, (this is affter ll a site for mockery) my aim is to to hold a mirror up to Ronnies Hypocrisy."
You haven't. I've never claimed to be anything I'm not. I don't hold people to higher standards than I do myself. Just because you insist on repeating something over and over again, doesn't mean that they magically turn into facts.
"I make no major moral claims for myself."
Yes, which gives you free reign to say and do anything. That makes you a weaker man, not stronger.
"Ronnie claims to be a 'real Christian', 'real American', going to heaven while pretty much everyone else here is currently damned, and yet his behavior is pretty much the same as mine."
Real Christian...yes. Real American....yes. "going to heaven while pretty much everyone else here is currently damned"..... Not at all, and you know it. This is where your little self proclaimed moral depravity kicks in. It's O.K. for you to lie because you don't make "major moral claims". I've NEVER said nor insinuated anything like that.
"Except I'm funnier. And more lucid. And know more about religion."
You very well might know more about "religion". Religion is just man made and flawed. That's you problem, you don't have a relationship with GOD. I don't know much about Islam or hinduism and don't really care to.
"C.) Ronnie begs for it. He's here as a negative atttention seeker, I'm just he'pin. I once spent a series of posts trying to get him to say why he was here, and got nowhere realistic. He claimed he was here to educate, which stretches credulity. I think he's here to Mock, but can't admit it even to himself, becuase Mocking and Gloating are unChristian passtimes."
I'm not a mocker. I'm here for a different point of view and because there are many intelligent people here like Kevin, Ror, and yourself that are my stongest sources of info. coming from the left....though Ror's not really from the left.
"D.) Ronnie holds the one and only belief I find most unsettling, appauling, bizarre, barbaric and dangerous. That a Supreme being responsible for all creation would feature Eternal Damnation as part of his plan. Like most moderns who believe in Hell, he's fairly certain it's just for other folks. That makes me literally ill, and I can't see that opinion expressed without attacking it."
The fact that it makes you ill might mean something....you are be convicted by GOD. Don't let pride be the death of you. I AM NOT TALKING DOWN TO YOU!! I mean these words with utter sincerity. Get it?!
"Nalds will tell you that means I hate Christians."
No, I don't. You don't speak for me.
"E.) He needs it. He wouldn't be here if he didn't."
I like it here, just like you do.
"F.) It probably makes him pray for me. It nver hurts to hedge your bets."
I'm sorry you see it that way.
"G.) It's irresistably fun."
It is for me to. You guys are the best.
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