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VinceZeb · #1

Ranxer, you give the aura of someone that would argue with Christ during the Second Coming just because it was your "right to dissent". There is a big difference between dissent and being so open minded that you actually become close minded. If you want to be taken seriously as not being a socialist zealot, then I wouldn’t try to act like one. Then, if he starts shit, he has nothing backing up his claim.

I know what GA was saying, and I know he is FOR military action. So why don't you quit putting words in my mouth that I never said? I know it’s hard for you to use logic, but try it sometime. I am simply stating a fact: Don't lump people into a group if you don't want to be lumped. I also did not say he was not classy, I said something was not classy on his part. People with half a brain can see you don't have an argument, Max.

Yes, I work at a college, so what? It’s a private one, which means I have to be smart enough to make MONEY for my school so I can have my job. What do you do at your job, btw? You have such an infatuation with mine, so I would like to know what you do to make the world livable.

Protoclown · #2

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Ranxer, you give the aura of someone that would argue with Christ during the Second Coming just because it was your "right to dissent".

God grants that right in the Bible. It's called "free will".

GAsux · #3

"Which, by the way, GA, I certainly do not. But apparently you aren't 'classy' enough for Vince."

Max, I appreciate that. i certainly didn't intend to cite anyone in particular, just a general observation.

As for Vincent's post, I'm really confused. I'm so confused by his post that it confused me about MY post! I thought what I was getting at was pretty clear. In fact, I thought it was obvious that i was saying that people who support war ARENT necessarily flag waving rednecks, any more than the anti war folks are bare footed hippies. I reread what I wrote several times in an attempt to understand where I went wrong, yet am not coming up with any answers. Apparently I not only lack class, but smarts as well.

VinceZeb · #4

Yes, GAsux, keep taking things out of context. Man, give it the fuck up.

Ok, Proto, argue with the end all be all of existance, and see how far it gets you. Freedom of speech is not the most important thing in our society. Freedom of THOUGHT is.

GAsux · #5

Your hostility amusses me. I believe you've mistaken this for an argument. I'm honestly not trying to argue with you. Quite the contrary, I'm simply trying to understand what the fuck you're talking about.

VinceZeb · #6

*sigh*

I said what I said in the beginning because you came off as people giving you crap for being pro-war as it were, and then saying you didn't want to be associated with a certain group. I then said you shouldn't make groups if you don't want to be considered a part of them. It would not be classy on your part. Then max decided to be cute and blow it out of proportion and make it into something it isn't.

Protoclown · #7

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Ok, Proto, argue with the end all be all of existance, and see how far it gets you. Freedom of speech is not the most important thing in our society. Freedom of THOUGHT is.

Uhhhh...isn't that kind of what the "right to dissent" is all about? And I'm not saying it's a GOOD idea necessarily, just pointing out that the right to choose DOES exist.

VinceZeb · #8

The right does exists, but people take it too far. They believe that no matter what happens, since they have this right, they should be able to use it whenever they so feel instead of STFU.

Thoughts are more important than speech will ever be. You can say whatever you want, but we are doing things within this country to PUNISH free speech and free thought.

Do you think a hate crime bill should be in law? Do you believe that we shouldn't profile anyone? If someone says something racists, should their be a law to put them in jail or punish them?

Protoclown · #9

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Do you think a hate crime bill should be in law?

I will seriously answer your questions, if you clarify what you mean. What kind of hate crime bill? What would it involve? That's kind of vague, don't you think?

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Do you believe that we shouldn't profile anyone?

Again, be more specific. What kind of situation would warrant profiling someone? And for what purpose? Who would store and have access to such records?

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If someone says something racists, should their be a law to put them in jail or punish them?

What, for simply expressing an opinion? Of course not.