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Old Aug 30th, 2004, 09:08 PM        Vindication! (maybe) or; Iran Contra Deus
Any of you guys ever enter those betting pools on college basketball, and despite your near fanatatical knowledge, lose your shirts year after year? Yeah, me too. And it seems the individual who grabs the kitty is always some chick who knows nothing about the sport. . .

So, despite the fact I enjoy politics and reading up on current events, I don't take it to heart that my predictions are almost 100% inaccurate - But, as is statistically prophecied, I seem to have finally got one right!

Iran-Contra II? Fresh scrutiny on a rogue Pentagon operation

By Joshua Micah Marshall, Laura Rozen, and Paul Glastris

Washington Monthly, September 2004

On Friday evening, CBS News reported that the FBI is investigating a suspected mole in the DoD who allegedly passed to Israel, via a pro-Israeli lobbying organization, classified American intelligence about Iran. The focus of the investigation, according to USgovernment officials, is Larry Franklin, a veteran DIA Iran analyst now working in the office of the Pentagon's #3 civilian official, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith.

The investigation of Franklin is now shining a bright light on a shadowy struggle within the Bush administration over the direction of US policy toward Iran. In particular, the FBI is lookingwith renewed interest at an unauthorized back-channel between Iranian dissidents and advisers in Feith's office, which more-senior administration officials first tried in vain to shut down and then later attempted to cover up.

Franklin, along with another colleague from Feith's office, a polyglot Middle East expert named Harold Rhode, were the two officials involved in the back-channel, which involved on-going meetings and contacts with Iranian arms dealer Manucher Ghorbanifar and other Iranian exiles, dissidents and government officials. Ghorbanifar is a storied figure who played a key role in embroiling the Reagan administration in the Iran-Contra affair.

The meetings were both a conduit for intelligence about Iran and Iraq and part of a bitter administration power-struggle pitting officials at DoD who have been pushing for a hard-line policy of "regime change" in Iran, against other officials at the State Dept and the CIA who have been counseling a more cautious approach.

Reports of 2 of these meetings first surfaced a year ago in Newsday, and have since been the subject of an ongoing investigation by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. Whether or how the meetings are connected to the alleged espionage remains unknown. But the FBI is now closely
scrutinizing them.

While the FBI is looking at the meetings as part of its criminal investigation, to congressional investigators the Ghorbanifar back-channel typifies the out-of-control bureaucratic turf wars which have characterized and often hobbled Bush administration policy-making. And an investigation by The Washington Monthly - including a rare interview with Ghorbanifar - adds weight to those concerns.

The meetings turn out to have been far more extensive and much less under White House control than originally reported.1 of the meetings, which Pentagon officials have long characterized as merely a "chance encounter," seems in fact to have been planned long in advance by Rhode and Ghorbanifar. Another has never been reported in the American press.The administration's reluctance to disclose these details seems clear:the DoD-Ghorbanifar meetings suggest the possibility that a rogue faction at the Pentagon was trying to work outside normal US foreign policy channels to advance a "regime change" agenda not approved by the president's foreign policy principals or even the president himself.

The Italian Job

The first meeting occurred in Rome in December, 2001. It included Franklin, Rhode, and another American, the neoconservative writer and operative Michael Ledeen, who organized the meeting. (According to UPI, Ledeen was then working for Feith as a consultant.) Also in attendance was Ghorbanifar and a number of other Iranians. 1 of the Iranians, according to 2 sources familiar with the meeting, was a former senior member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard who claimed to have information about dissident ranks within the Iranian security services. The Washington Monthly has also learned from US government sources that Nicolo Pollari, the head of Italy's military intelligence agency, SISMI, attended the meetings, as did the Italian Minister of Defense Antonio Martino, who is well-known in neoconservative circles in Washington.

Alarm bells about the December 2001 meeting began going off in US government channels only days after it occurred. On December 12th 2001, at the US Embassy in Rome, America's newly-installed Ambassador, Mel Sembler, sat down for a private dinner with Ledeen, an old friend of his from Republican Party politics, and Martino, the Italian defense minister. The conversation quickly turned to the meeting. The problem was that this was the first that Ambassador Sembler had heard about it.

According to US government sources, Sembler immediately set about trying to determine what he could about the meeting and how it had happened.

Since US government contact with foreign government intelligence agencies is supposed to be overseen by the CIA, Sembler first spoke to the CIA station chief in Rome to find out what if anything he knew about the meeting with the Iranians. But that only raised more questions because the station chief had been left in the dark as well. Soon both Sembler and the Rome station chief were sending anxious queries back to the State Dept and CIA Headquarters in Langley, respectively, raising alarms on both sides of the Potomac.

The meeting was a source of concern for a series of overlapping reasons. Since the late 80s Ghorbanifar has been the subject of 2 CIA "burn notices."

The Agency believes Ghorbanifar is a serial "fabricator" and forbids
its officers from having anything to do with him. Moreover, why were mid-level Pentagon officials organizing meetings with a foreign intelligence agency behind the back of the CIA - a clear breach of US government protocol?

There was also a matter of personal chagrin for Sembler: At State Dept direction, he had just been cautioning the Italians to restrain their contacts with bad-acting states like Iran (with which Italy has extensive trade ties).According to US government sources, both the State Dept and the CIA eventually brought the matter to the attention of the White House - specifically, to Condoleezza Rice's chief deputy on the NSC, Stephen Hadley.

Later, Italian spy chief Pollari raised the matter privately with Tenet, who himself went to Hadley in early February 2002. Goaded by Tenet, Hadley sent word to the officials in Feith's office and to Ledeen to cease all such activities. Hadley then contacted Sembler, assuring him it wouldn't happen again and to report back if it did.

The orders, however, seem to have had little effect, for a 2nd meeting was soon underway. According to a story published this summer in Corriere della Sera, a leading Italian daily, this 2nd meeting took place in Rome in June 2002. Ghorbanifar tells The Washington Monthly that he arranged that meeting after a flurry of faxes between himself and DoD official Harold hode.

Though he did not attend it himself, Ghorbanifar says the meeting consisted of an Egyptian, an Iraqi, and a high-level US government official, whose name he declined to reveal. The first 2 briefed the American official about the general situation in Iraq and the Middle East, and what would happen in Iraq, "and it's happened word for word since," says Ghorbanifar.A spokesman for the NSC declined to comment on this and other meetings and referred The Washington Monthly to the Defense Dept, which did not respond to repeated inquiries. Ledeen also refused to comment.

No one at the US Embassy in Rome seems to have known about this 2nd Rome meeting. But the back-channel's continuing existence became apparent the following month - July 2002 - when Ledeen again contacted Sembler and told him that he'd be back in Rome in September to continue "his work" with the Iranians (This time Ledeen made no mention of any involvement by Pentagon officials; later he told Sembler it would be in August rather than September.) An exasperated Sembler again sent word back to Washington and Hadley again went into motion telling Ledeen, in no uncertain terms, to back off.

Once again, however, Hadley's orders seem to have gone unheeded. Almost a year later, in June, 2003, there were still further meetings in Paris involving Rhode and Zhorbanifar.Ghorbanifar says the purpose of the meeting was for Rhode to get more information on the situation in Iraq and the Middle East. "In those meetings we met, we gave him the scenario, what would happen in the coming days in Iraq. And everything has happened word for word as we told him," Ghorbanifar repeats. "We met in several different places in Paris," he says, "Rhode met several other people - he didn't only meet me."

Not a "chance encounter"

By the summer of 2003, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence had begun to get wind of the Ghorbanifar-Ledeen-DoD back-channel and made inquiries at the CIA. A month later, Newsday broke the original story about the secret Ghorbanifar channel.

Faced with the disclosure, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld acknowledged the December, 2001 meeting but dismissed it as routine and unimportant.

"The information has moved around the interagency process to all the depts and agencies," he told reporters in Crawford, TX after a meeting with Bush.

"As I understand it, there wasn't anything there that was of substance or of value that needed to be pursued further." Later that day, another senior Defense official acknowledged the 2nd meeting, in Paris, June, 2003, but insisted that it was the result of a "chance encounter" between Ghorbanifar and a Pentagon official. The administration has kept to the "chance encounter" story to this day. Ghorbanifar, however, laughs off that idea.

"Run into each other? We had a prior arrangement," he told The Washington Monthly: "It involved a lot of discussion, and a lot of people."


Over the last year, the Senate Intelligence Committee has conducted limited inquiry into the meetings, including interviews with Feith and Ledeen.

But under terms of a compromise agreed to by both parties, a full investigation into the matter was put off until after the November election.

Republicans on the committee, many of whom sympathize with the "regime change" agenda at DoD, have been resistant to such investigations, calling them an election-year fishing expedition. Democrats, by contrast, see such investigations as vital to understanding the central role Feith's office may have played in a range of a dubious intelligence enterprises, from pushing claims about a supposed Saddam-al Qaeda partnership and overblown estimates of alleged Iraqi stocks of WMD to what the committee's ranking minority member Sen. Jay Rockefeller calls "the Chalabi factor" (Rhode and others in Feith's office have been major sponsors of the Iraqi exile leader,who is now under investigation for passing US intelligence to Iran). With the FBI adding potential espionage charges to the mix,the long-simmering questins about the activities of Feith's operation now seem certain to come under renewed scrutiny.



Research assistance provided by Claudio Lavanga.



Joshua Micah Marshall is a Washington Monthly contributing writer and the editor of Talking Points Memo. Laura Rozen reports on national securityissues from Washington DC and for her weblog War and Piece. She can bereached at lkrozen@yahoo.com .Paul Glastris is editor in chief of The Washington Monthly.
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Old Sep 1st, 2004, 10:43 AM       
Thanks for posting this, Shach. I was looking for a good article on it, and this is way better than any I'd found so far.

I also think this is where W's (or some faction within the administrations) love of Iran Contra style secret dealings was coming to light. It's no coincidence that all sorts of Iran/Contra players have resurfaced during W's reign. Someone powerful is big believer in secret, deniable, illegal foreign policy operations.

If W wins (or is appointed) his second term will be littered with shit like this. The problem is, I think what a lot of power players took away from Iran/Contra is that if the intrigue is complicated enough the media and the public won't be able to digest it. That's how utterly agregious stuff like Abu Gharib can happen and the absolute highest you'll ever get is some low level Colonel not getting promoted or an undersecretary having to resign. Maybe someone will even face criminal charges, but in the long run their convictions will be overturned, no harm, no foul. If it isn't as simple as sperm on a dress, most people just get a headache trying to sort it out and most media simply can't be bothered.
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Old Sep 1st, 2004, 10:16 PM       
Quite welcome friend. I remember in '01 we were discussing the impossible number of individuals charged (and convicted) with duplicity in the Iran/Contra affairs which were appointed to Bush's cabinet - Negroponte and Venzuelas, not to mention Rumsfield and Cheney to name just a few that come to mind - I'm surprised it took so long for something of this nature to finally be uncovered by the press. Even just partially, as there are obvious implications in the above story which are not clearly defined.
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Old Sep 3rd, 2004, 07:13 PM       
Todays news says this is tied up with Chalabi, the investigation is more widespread than just the one guy in Fieth's office and it's been going on for two years.

Anybody have any idea what Poindexter is doing to pull down a paycheck since he had to resign from Total Information? Gitta be a think tank or a lobbying firm, somehwere where he can write policy and bills.
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Old Sep 4th, 2004, 01:03 AM       
Well, his phone number (301) 424-6613 has long since been disconnected, but I'm sure he and Linda still live at 10 Barrington Fare in Rockville, Md, I think you might very well have a shot at asking him yourself if its worth the drive

The last headlines I've heard him make concered his the resignation letter (from the post of Director, Total Information Awareness Office) to Dr. Anthony Tether, Director, Defense Advanced Projects Agency (DARPA), dated 12 August 2003 following his rather cynical racket the conception of a 'terrorism futures market,' dubbed Policy Analysis Market, which would have allowed Wallstreet types to gamble against the success of future terrorist assassinations, attacks and hostile takeovers.

Here's some poor excuse for a journalist giving him a red ass, but thats all I got for you on this count Burbie. Article ammended to the bottom in case the link is too old

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1...%22+2004&hl=en

While I know little about him, however, his baby is alive and well, but someone as well read as yourself is doubtlessly aware of that .

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/02/23/te...icp=1&.intl=us

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May 2004

Poindexter Confidential

Spencer Reiss

The Caltech physics wonk infamous for Iran-Contra, Total Information Awareness, and terrorism futures talks about life as a not-so-private citizen.

John Poindexter's career has played out in the headlines: Iran-Contra conspirator, the Pentagon's Big Brother in chief, godfather of a futures market to predict terrorism. But there's an alternate reality: The 67-year-old retired admiral is the only serious technologist ever to reach the highest circles of power in Washington. He's a Caltech PhD who two decades ago dragged the White House into the digital age, plugging in everything from fiber-optic video to email. He uses Groove Networks' Workspace to keep in touch with friends and rhapsodizes about encryption like a cypherpunk. In the first interview since Congress forced him to step down last summer as head of Darpa's Information Awareness Office, Poindexter speaks out about privacy, sim terrorists, and Iraqi WMD.

WIRED: What was it like being grilled by Richard Feynman for your PhD?
POINDEXTER: I was scared out of my wits.

What was the topic?
Electronic shielding by closed shells in thulium compounds. I'm afraid it doesn't really translate into English.

Good practice for some of the political buzz saws you've run into since?
It's easy to be a critic. We live in an information society. Corporations and governments have mountains of data that power our economy and give us the highest standard of living in the world. The question is, How do we manage information intelligently to preserve our freedoms, protect our way of life, and advance civilization?

"Knowledge is power" was the IAO's official motto - that spooks a lot of people.
Knowledge is power, for good or evil. The issue is giving goodness the edge. We can't eliminate evil; we can recognize it and try to deter it by ensuring that those doing evil are detected and punished. This applies to the terrorist and to those who would abuse data.

The program's goal was to "revolutionize" the US government's ability to identify terrorists.
You can't take an existing system and dramatically change its capabilities overnight. You start by creating a small, experimental network, running it in parallel with the "normal" system, and then introducing new ideas and capabilities. We had real users from the intelligence community working with a combination of real and synthetic data.

Synthetic data?
It's a little like the Sims - you create a virtual world that has real addresses, real airports, but is populated with imaginary people. We built them by taking a list of all the last names in the country and then adding first names at random. Then we had them take trips. We had a team of a dozen people who came up with scenarios. You introduce terrorists into your world, and then you start looking for ways to pick them out from the data.

And you succeeded?
In a very preliminary way, with a lot of human help, yes, we did.

Your critics never relented on privacy questions.
Advocacy groups want to stay in business, so it's in their interest to paint a dire picture.

Is privacy a right?
It's certainly not a constitutional right. It's an individual right that has to be balanced with concern for the common good. Privacy has to be relative to other objectives - for instance, security. The greatest threat to privacy is terrorism. How much privacy was there in Afghanistan under the Taliban?

Are we managing that balance well today?
Not at all - in a lot of ways we have the worst of both worlds: no security and no privacy. There are at least 50 federal laws and regulations regarding the handling of personal information. Programmers call that spaghetti code.

You were accused of building giant data banks of private information.
Nothing I worked on had to do with collecting data - we have plenty of that in this country, probably more than we need. Our focus was turning it into useful information. You leave it where it is - because of the cost of moving it to a central location, the difficulty of keeping up with technology, and the US citizen's basic distrust of the government.

So how do you persuade people that having the government peer into their lives is a good idea?
Most people don't understand what we were trying to do. Too many opinions are formed based on sound bites from those who yell the loudest. One of the things we were working on was a "privacy appliance" that would conceal a person's identity until a case could be made against them. Congress killed that, too.

The technologies you used include Groove Networks' very trendy collaborative software
You don't collaborate because it's faddish - you do it because there's always ambiguity in the data and you need diverse viewpoints to try to decide what it all really means.

For instance, Iraqi WMD?
That's a perfect example. There were obviously different perspectives, but did they find their way to the decisionmaker? And in such a way that he could understand what the different interpretations were and how they were arrived at? I don't think that happened.

So, a Groove space for the president?
At some point, a US president will be in a Groove space or something comparable, sure. Maybe not this next time, but four or eight years from now we'll elect someone who grew up on the Internet and is more willing to sit at a keyboard and do things on his own.

Al Gore!
God, I hope not.


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