Return of the King

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by FS

So is "three rings for the elven kings" not right then?

No, it's right. The original holders of Nenya, Narya, and Vilya were high-ranking elves. Cirdan the Shipwright originally held Narya, but gave it to Gandalf when the wizards first arrived in Middle Earth. Gil-Galad was the first owner of Vilya, but he passed it down to Elrond when Rivendell was founded. Nenya was always in the posession of Galadriel.

And YES, Celeborn is Galadriel's faithful bitch.

[pjalne]

EDIT: SPOILERS

Saw it yesterday, and loved it. There's been enough gushing in this thread by now.

What I learned in the theater is that people are fucking tools. They're so used to being dictated how to react by canned laughter and movies far too bound to convention that they can't watch a gerne-bending film without annoying the hell out of me. If Gimli has one funny line, they'll laugh at EVERY FUCKING LINE HE HAS, because someone who has a funny line in a movie is a comic relief and all their lines should be laughed at. So if he's asked if he can picture himself falling alongside a friend and answers "Aye. I could do that." that of course is meant to be a joke. If Frodo makes pained faces at camera from being stung by a giant spider, that's funny, because grimaces are funny. And when he appears to be dead and is covered in cobwebs, it's funny cuz he's looks like a mummy and is pale lol! Gollum is animated, so he's the wacky sidekick. And when a wacky sidekick makes a face, it's funny regardless of whether he's just realizing he's being melted alive in a pool of lava or not. And spiders are icky, so whenever a movie cuts to a spider the correct response is saying "Eeeeeeeew!" so everyone can hear how yucky the spider is. These are the same people who laugh when they watch Nosferatu because it's in fast-motion and Benny Hill is in fast motion. I fucking hate people. Also, three cellphones. Three fucking cellphones.

But this and much much more couldn't ruin it for me because the film was so good.

[Ninjavenom]

They fucking did that to me during Two Towers.

[AChimp]

The audience was pretty good when I went. :/

I think there was a laugh in Gollum's monologue scene at the beginning, Gimli's "That still only counts as one," and when the orc chief spits on the boulder that almost crushed him.

Nobody eew'ed for the spider.

[HickMan]

Some old lady sat behind me with a daughter that must of been at least sixteen, and when Gollum was eating that fish, the old lady said to her husband, "Oh no! Sara's going to have nightmares!" and then the sixteen year girl said "MOM SHUT UP! NO I WON'T!". God I could of killed them at that point. And after that, the old lady said "EWW!" when the orcs threw the human heads.

[pjalne]

Originally Posted by AChimp

The audience was pretty good when I went. :/

I think there was a laugh in Gollum's monologue scene at the beginning, Gimli's "That still only counts as one," and when the orc chief spits on the boulder that almost crushed him.

Yeah, but those were funny moments. Well, the spit thing wasn't axactly hilarious, but I loved how they took the horse-swing bit, which itself upped the ante from the cave troll bit, and showed they were going to top it with the mumakil. And then they blew it completely out of proportion to the point where it almost got silly, before punctuating it with Gimli's line. And I laughed myself when Gollum asked himself about the taste of orc meat in the other scene you mention. Sounds like an audience I could appreciate.

[Anonymous]

Originally Posted by pjalne

And when he appears to be dead and is covered in cobwebs, it's funny cuz he's looks like a mummy and is pale lol!

I don't know about the other stuff you mentioned, but my friend and I chuckled at that. He's got that blank look on his face, and a little eye shadow on his cheek, and meanwhile, Sam is showing all this emotion while Frodo is giving us the Neo treatment. It was a little funny.

[Immortal Goat]

Originally Posted by Big Papa Goat

...I thought the part with Pippin singing and Faramir charging was kind of lame :/.

BURN IN HELL!!

In all seriousness, those of you that thought the movie seemed rushed and are looking forward to the Extended Edition have nothing to fear. I hear that the ROTK Ext. Ed. alone will be...

wait for it...














TEN HOURS LONG!!!

[pjalne]

Haha, that would've been awesome. It would lose all momentum, though. So it would suck.

[Immortal Goat]

Oh, and Pippin singing BETTER be on the fucking soundtrack!

[FS]

hear that the ROTK Ext. Ed. alone will be...

wait for it...

TEN HOURS LONG!!!

You don't seriously believe that to even be possible, do you? I mean, I didn't get the impression you were joking. Unless you mean movie plus documentaries and miscellaneous shiz, which I suppose would be more likely.

Anyway, this is probably common knowledge to everyone who's complained about it, but the scene where Gandalf and Saruman vocally "have it out" will be in the extended edition. Jackson omitted it from the theatre version because he felt it would interfere with RotK feeling like a completely new movie, or something.

In the theatre where I was watching it, with about a half an hour left, there suddenly came all these spots through the movie, as if there was dust on the movie reel or something. But nobody seemed to want to get up and tell someone about it, myself included. Luckily, it disappeared before the ending.

[Immortal Goat]

Ten hours may be a slight exageration (sp?), but from what I hear, it will be close. There is a TON of shit that they cut out of the movie, and EVERYTHING that was cut will be put back in.

[pjalne]

I can't really believe that. In 99% of all cases, throwing everything that's cut back in will result in a weaker narrative. That's just poor decision-making.

[Immortal Goat]

Do you really think Peter Jackson is one to make a poor decision? Look at his track record.

[pjalne]

I have every confidence in Jackson, which is why I'm saying there's no way that film will be ten hours. Plus, the first cut was four hours and fifty minutes or something.

[Krythor]

I can't even imagine ten hours worth of material being written for the final screenplay draft. If you're right, I will eat my own face.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Originally Posted by pjalne

What I learned in the theater is that people are fucking tools. They're so used to being dictated how to react by canned laughter and movies far too bound to convention that they can't watch a gerne-bending film without annoying the hell out of me. If Gimli has one funny line, they'll laugh at EVERY FUCKING LINE HE HAS, because someone who has a funny line in a movie is a comic relief and all their lines should be laughed at. So if he's asked if he can picture himself falling alongside a friend and answers "Aye. I could do that." that of course is meant to be a joke. If Frodo makes pained faces at camera from being stung by a giant spider, that's funny, because grimaces are funny. And when he appears to be dead and is covered in cobwebs, it's funny cuz he's looks like a mummy and is pale lol! Gollum is animated, so he's the wacky sidekick. And when a wacky sidekick makes a face, it's funny regardless of whether he's just realizing he's being melted alive in a pool of lava or not. And spiders are icky, so whenever a movie cuts to a spider the correct response is saying "Eeeeeeeew!" so everyone can hear how yucky the spider is. These are the same people who laugh when they watch Nosferatu because it's in fast-motion and Benny Hill is in fast motion. I fucking hate people. Also, three cellphones. Three fucking cellphones.

THANK YOU.

I just saw this, and although I didn't think it was as great as everyone is saying, it was a good movie. I however nearly had the experience ruined by retards who had to snicker and giggle every time Sam and Frodo had a semi-emotional moment together that seemed intimate. It got so bad that at one point near the end I just had to say out loud "HA HA! I GET IT NOW, THEY'RE GAY! HA HA!!"

Now, I have some questions here. And before anyone asks, NO, I have never read the Tolkien books. NO, I haven't read any of the other pages in this thread, so if you already touched upon this then I'm sorry. But redundancy is a skill on these boards, so whatever. Anyway, I had heard that Sam ends up with the ring. I heard this from more than one sci-fi, Tolkien Nazi. Was I just fooled, or am I missing something...? Oh, uh, "SPOILERS"...

[Urban2]

How would Sam end up with the ring, it's destroyed so there's no way he could end up with it. How do you not know this? You said you just saw the movie.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Clearly, the point you were supposed to absorb was that I went to the movie with a preconceived notion of how the movie would end, hence my entire reason for posting in this thread.

Clearly, you didn't get that.

And clearly, you need to stop breathing.

[Urban2]

But I would end up unconscious if I... oh wait now I get it, and now I would like to say:

FUCK OFF

[KevinTheOmnivore]

HA HA HA

We should be I-Mockery friends now......

[Urban2]

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[Protoclown]

Peter Jackson cut 1 hour and 5 minutes from the rough theatrical cut of ROTK to get to the finished print we saw in the theater. Take also into account that he probably set aside some footage straight off the bat that he only ever intended for the extended version. Ian McKellan has recently said that he believes that the Extended version of the movie could be 5 hours long. I'll certainly believe it could end up that way and I hope they add as much back in as is possible without the narrative screeching to a halt.

Kevin, what those Tolkien geeks must have been referring to was the part where Sam gets the ring for a little while as Frodo is held captive in the tower of Cirith Ungol (I only remember that name because I have the soundtrack and there is a track by that title...oh, and yes, Pippin's singing is on it). The only major difference between that part of the movie and the book is that in the book Sam actually USES the ring to turn invisible and sneak into the tower to save Frodo. But that's it. Sam doesn't end up with the ring. The events where the ring is dealt with once and for all are pretty much depicted exactly as they are in the book.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Gotcha, thanks. Are there any writings after this trilogy...?

[Protoclown]

I don't really know. He wrote a lot of histories and other stories about Middle Earth, but none of them ever interested me. I don't see how Sam could have ended up with the One Ring though at any point since it was destroyed.