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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 01:02 AM        Big Crunch
Didnt wanna threadjack vibecrewangels topic, so uh, yeah the big bang happened, so what about the big crunch? I think it should be a bit of a concern too , no?
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 01:06 AM       
I think it should happen in ten minutes. It would be HILARIOUS.
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 01:18 AM       
If the people that wrote the Bible knew about The Big Crunch, Revelations would have been alot different.
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 01:54 AM       
.........and God said unto the people, if you do not obey my commandments, i will cause the retraction of the universe.........
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 02:53 AM       
I thought the popular thoery right now was the Big Freeze? That the universe expands so far, it just fades out into cold nothingness, or something along those lines.
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 02:56 AM       
Yeah it looks like it will expand forever, because it looks as if it may be speeding up.
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 02:59 AM       
Where the fuck does the universe expand to? I thought the universe was EVERYTHING. It can't expand into something outside of the universe, because there is no outside of the universe. It's just the universe.
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 03:07 AM       
It came from a small thing, it is now a big thing so clearly it expands. Also the assumption that the universe is everything is laughable, providing you think the universe is finite. How can everything be less than infinite? There may not be space outside of the universe but that doesn't rule out more universes.
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 03:09 AM       
it doesn't matter, we all live inside a train station locker which itself is tucked away inside a marble anyway.
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 03:43 AM       
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Old Jul 20th, 2003, 09:52 AM       
The Universe expands into the nothingness that exists outside of it. The real question I want answered is can you actually reach a physical end of the Universe, and how far does the nothingness extend beyond it?
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Old Jul 20th, 2003, 10:29 AM       
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The Universe expands into the nothingness that exists outside of it. The real question I want answered is can you actually reach a physical end of the Universe, and how far does the nothingness extend beyond it?
You cannot reach the end in our limited three dimensional frame of reference.
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Old Jul 20th, 2003, 10:38 AM       
If there there is a limit to the extent of the universe as we perceive it, the 'nothingness' beyond that is not only immesurable, but also without width, heigh, extent, volume and at all existance. You would not be able to travel there, since we're talking nullspace.

Our way of measuring distance, volume, length etc, is only an fathomable representation of something infinitely more complex. It's a lot like a clock: it mimics the passing of time and seems to follow it precisely, but it's in no way connected to actual TIME.
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Old Jul 20th, 2003, 03:39 PM       
The end of the universe is right in front of you. Every point in the universe is the center of the universe and every point is the edge. Try to go in front of that point. You can't. Since that point is every point.
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Old Jul 20th, 2003, 04:14 PM       
I established that in the other thread and some people seemed to ignore it.
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Old Jul 20th, 2003, 04:42 PM       
Pjalne's reply is pretty good. The universe isn't infinite. The context in which it is expanding is impossible to inspect. Maybe god lives there :O
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Old Jul 20th, 2003, 05:26 PM       
if God lives at the edge of the universe he occupies the entire universe, since as i said before every point is the edge. if you wanted to leave the universe you would just have to move the width of a point in a direction that doesn't exist.
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Old Jul 20th, 2003, 05:47 PM       
IT'S A GOOD THING GOD DOESN'T EXIST, THEN :O
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Old Jul 20th, 2003, 06:32 PM       
YES his nonexistence is essential.
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Old Jul 20th, 2003, 08:15 PM       
Not necessarily, but rather than being the watchmaker, he'd be the actual clockworks.
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Old Jul 20th, 2003, 08:33 PM       
A self created clock?
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Old Jul 21st, 2003, 06:32 AM       
A self created universe?
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Old Jul 21st, 2003, 11:53 AM        YAY
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That sums up the Buddhist view nicely. The universe created itself out of the infinite.
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Old Jul 21st, 2003, 12:31 PM       
How about "I don't know"
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Old Jul 21st, 2003, 01:17 PM        LOL
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