MALE bisexuality does not exist

[Ant10708]

MALE bisexuality does not exist, psychologists in the US have claimed.

A new study concludes that the large majority of men purporting to be bisexual are actually gay, while the rest are more likely to be heterosexual.

Senior author Michael Bailey, from Northwestern University in Chicago, said: "Bisexual male behaviour certainly exists, but the study suggests that a bisexual orientation, an actual sexual preference for both men and women, does not exist in men. If such men exist, they are certainly very rare and we didn't find them."

Researchers recruited 101 young adult men, 33 identifying themselves as bisexual, 30 straight and 38 homosexual.
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They were questioned at length about their sexuality before being seated alone in a laboratory to watch erotic films while their arousal levels were monitored by a sensor.

Gay men were aroused by images of men, while heterosexual men were aroused by women. But psychologists said those claiming to be bisexual were only aroused by one or the other - 75per cent by men and the rest by women.

Dr Bailey said some men claim to be bisexual as it is easier than admitting to being gay, while others might consider it some kind of achievement and be proud to swing both ways

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...-13762,00.html

[ziggytrix]

sounds like bullshit to me.

[GAsux]

What about prison sex? Are inmates who hump other inmates in prison secretly gay? Just curious.

[sadie]

"If such men exist, they are certainly very rare and we didn't find them."

they only recruited 202 guys.

[Ant10708]

Originally Posted by GAsux

What about prison sex? Are inmates who hump other inmates in prison secretly gay? Just curious.

Or desperate to have sex with something.

They didn't even recruit 200 men but the sampling of men claiming to be bisexual was pretty high out of the 100 people they used. Who knows if it is true but I found it interesting.

[ziggytrix]

This study only proves that Chicago is full of fags and wanna-be fags.

Haha just kidding, I don't know anything about Chicago. Go Cubbies!

[Chojin]

Uh. I'm bisexual and know at least two other guys that are as well.

[sadie]

shit. and i used a calculator and everything.

[Chojin]

It also I think would depend on the 'images of men' being shown. I find that bisexual guys tend to go for girlier guys (and boyish girls), and if they were showing pictures of hair-covered plumbers (no pun intended ha ha am i right) going at it, I can understand why it'd only appeal to the extremes that can appreciate it.

[Ant10708]

That is true. And who knows what a bisexual might enjoy watching porn wise. Two girls going at it? Two guys? Girl and a guy? Two girls and a guy? two guys and a girl? Bisexuals have all the options

[Chojin]

Well for what it's worth I only like same-sex porn. :<

[Jeanette X]

Originally Posted by Chojin

Uh. I'm bisexual and know at least two other guys that are as well.

No you aren't, you're just a gay man in denial or a straight guy who wishes he was bi.

Jeez, didn't you read the article?!

[kahljorn]

Burn.

[Helm]

I wouldn't call this HARD SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE but yeah, I think some people who claim to be bisexual aren't really biologically urged towards it. Just like a significant part of the people who claim to be gay also have no inherent tendency towards homosexuality. I'm not denying that gay men and women exist, I'm just saying that there are a lot of people, like ziggy said, who pick it up as learnt behaviour, not because they can't help it. People like to pick up labels. I wouldn't be surprized, for example if one were to check a sadomasochist clique only to find that a quantity of the people are aren't really into pain, but rather are so desperate for sex they're willing to do the latex bullshit just so they can get off eventually.

being bisexual makes more sense than being gay from an evolutionary standpoint because it maximizes the chance of one having sex as means to stress-relief while also leaving the chance of mating to create babies ( which is the prime directive and all ) so I guess it would make more sense of people were bisexual than gay. But that's just theorizing.

[The One and Only...]

That's odd Chojin, because I tend to be attracted to more feminine, shapely women and muscular, ripped men.

And I'm amazed that this thread has no :OAO in it yet. Actually, I'm amazed that :OAO isn't a real emoticon...

[pjalne]

Hey there, OAO. How's the weather there up inside your own ass?

[MLE]

pjalne:

Ant: it's sheer ignorant to study a very little amount of people, all concentrated in one city, and then to try to claim such a blanket statement as being true. i'm not saying you're the one that originally claimed it, but you're the one that posted it.

it's as ridiculous as claiming that there are no bisexual people that exist.

[ziggytrix]

Originally Posted by Ant10708

Who knows if it is true but I found it interesting.

You into horribly vague reports about seemingly horribly flawed studies? Heh, at the very least it has great argument starting potential, I suppose.

They should have gone into more detail about "arousal levels were monitored by a sensor." Did they just measure increase in pulse, body temperature? If so, how did they rule out embarrasment as a cause for those conditions as opposed to arousal?

That's where I see the biggest flaw in this study. It's even worse than the questionable sampling method.

[Ant10708]

I got it from the same site I read about the dogs being reanimated like 6 hours after they died. The zombie dogs impressed me so much I came back for more.

[ziggytrix]

yeah, i thought it would be fun to post it on the rave music board i'm on and someone said:

Holy shit, if you guys knew the crap I had to endure with Michael Bailey and my last job. He wrote a book called The Man Who Would Be Queen which was denounced by the transgender scientific community. He basically said that trans women are either effeminate gay men or bizarrely autosexual paraphilic men. There was a formal investigation done at Northwestern and he had to resign as chairman of the Psychology Department. Add onto this the hundreds of complaints made by leading professionals in the transgender field, I would never take anything he says as scientific "fact." I may be biased because the organization and doctors I worked for were some of the main forces driving the investigation, but if you know the details you'd discard anything Bailey has to say. I pray to god this man stops any research and practice.

[Skulhedface]

I think the logic is flawed, roughly for the same reason test audiences ruin good movies.

By their own admittance, they say both that they interviewed and studied roughly 100 men, but also that they theorize a truly bisexual male would be rare if not impossible to find.

Sloppy science, if you ask me. There's too many variables involved... I mean, if you were to ask 100 people in the Bible Belt if God was real, you'd come to the conclusion that "there are no atheists in this world, and it'd be extremely rare if not impossible to find one."

To think people get grants for this shit.

[kellychaos]

When the sample set is sufficiently high, bullshit drops off toward negative infinity.