Happiness in the modern world

[Helm]

I was thinking of posting the exact thing, sadie

[kellychaos]

It would be extremely frustrating to go my whole life on a quest of the ultimate form of happiness (metaphysical?) only to find that whatever it was, I wasn't that. I would not be happy, no sir! Pragmatism?

[Helm]

I'm really entertaining thoughts of pragmatism lately.

[kahljorn]

Algebra will make you happy!

[kellychaos]

If train A is leaving westbound from Station 1 at 25 mph and train B is leaving eastbound from station 2 at 30 mph and train B horrendously mangles Kahl because of his pathetic misunderstanding of algebra, would he be happy?

[kahljorn]

Y=kahl is suicidal
Kahl happiness=yes

I win!
Let's play again!

[Sethomas]

So. Never taken a class on or studied syllogism, eh?

[Helm]

taken a class? no, fag.

[Emu]

i have

[kellychaos]

It all comes down to probability based on past sensory experience. The sun may just NOT come out tommorow. It's all mathematics. Life is mathematics, friends. You heard here first!

[kahljorn]

Kelly:
At some point in life you will probably realize everything you believe in was a series of lies you told to yourself so you could create a "personality". There may have been a few truths squeezed in there, but they are half truths. Just like every other truth. In fact, at least half of the person you call yourself is based on being bullied in school and gutted by the government, along with the various lies your friends and family have told you(NOT PA!!). You could almost say your personality is built on lies and deceit. Isn't it great?

[Helm]

It's all the demiurge's fault

[kahljorn]

Only you would blame the demiurge, you simpering pussy.

[Helm]

love my pussy, baby

[kellychaos]

Originally Posted by kahljorn

Kelly:
At some point in life you will probably realize everything you believe in was a series of lies you told to yourself so you could create a "personality". There may have been a few truths squeezed in there, but they are half truths. Just like every other truth. In fact, at least half of the person you call yourself is based on being bullied in school and gutted by the government, along with the various lies your friends and family have told you(NOT PA!!). You could almost say your personality is built on lies and deceit. Isn't it great?

All Is Truth
By Walt Whitman
1819-1892
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O me, man of slack faith so long,
Standing aloof, denying portions so long,
Only aware to-day of compact all-diffused truth,
Discovering to-day there is no lie or form of lie, and can be none,
but grows as inevitably upon itself as the truth does upon itself,
Or as any law of the earth or any natural production of the earth does.

(This is curious and may not be realized immediately, but it must be
realized,
I feel in myself that I represent falsehoods equally with the rest,
And that the universe does.)

Where has fail'd a perfect return indifferent of lies or the truth?
Is it upon the ground, or in water or fire? or in the spirit of man?
or in the meat and blood?

Meditating among liars and retreating sternly into myself, I see
that there are really no liars or lies after all,
And that nothing fails its perfect return, and that what are called
lies are perfect returns,
And that each thing exactly represents itself and what has preceded it,
And that the truth includes all, and is compact just as much as
space is compact,
And that there is no flaw or vacuum in the amount of the truth--but
that all is truth without exception;
And henceforth I will go celebrate any thing I see or am,
And sing and laugh and deny nothing.

Personality based on about 5% will and 95% a series of incidental events ... assuming you believe in linear time.

[kahljorn]

Yea, that thing you posted was kind of pointless. Give another name and situation to a lie. It doesn't really matter if it's a lie or not, it was all in response to what you said.

THEY"RE NOT LIES THEY'RE PEEERFEEECT REEETUUUURNS. I LOVE YOU BABY, LETS MAKE A PERFECT RETURN.
*23 minutes later*
"Welp, gotta go".

And yes, most of what you are is defined by your surroundings. I mean, it's not like you're making your circumstances come to yourself. I guess therein lies the idea of karma(which is a rather big idea...).
That was why i mentioned your family and government shafting you.

[kellychaos]

We're all like circus mirrors. A perfect relflection of all that came before us except for the silly refraction that represents our will.

They're only lies because no one has the intellectual capacity to include all the sets and subsets of information, events, ect that have gone into making present-day you which have been clouded over by a millenia of time. I'm not saying that a person isn't culpable to a degree for his personality. What I'm saying is that he is mostly non-culpable.