THE TURKEY HAS LANDED, PART II. Uneccesary lies

[mburbank]

As White House Changes Story, British Airways Refutes Bush Story of Pilot Sighting


In his trip to Baghdad, President Bush said he would have immediately turned around had his cover been blown. In trying to play up the secrecy and dangerous nature of the trip, Bush's aides said that a British Airways pilot spotted the president's plane, radioing, "Did I just see Air Force One?" The White House said Air Force One responded: "Gulfstream 5" - a code word to disguise the plane - and the British Airways pilot "seemed to sense he was in on a secret and replied 'Oh.'"1

But now it appears the story was a complete fabrication, designed only to hype the story. According to Reuters, "British Airways said yesterday that none of its pilots made contact with President Bush's plane during its secret flight to Baghdad on Thanksgiving, contradicting White House reports of a midair exchange that nearly prompted Bush to call off his trip."2

Making things worse, the White House revised its story after revelations of the distortion. The White House now says "it had left the wrong impression" and that actually the conversation took place between Air Force One and the airport tower in London.3 But again, British Airways refuted this tale, with a spokesman for the company telling media "that none of its pilots has come forward to acknowledge either making or overhearing the purported conversation."4

Sources:

1. "Bush steals away to Baghdad in a surprise visit to American soldiers", International Herald Tribune, 11/28/2003.
2. "Pilots Didn't Radio Air Force One, Airline Says", Reuters, 12/02/2003.
3. "Bush Aide Clarifies Air Force One Sighting", Washington Post, 12/03/2003.
4. "Changing a Story on the Fly", Newsday, 12/03/2003.

[Zhukov]

I think the lie was totaly neccesary. How else would they make the trip seem dangerous? Well? You seem to have all the answers...

[mew barios]

makes me wonder if he went there at all.

[mburbank]

Check it out. That Turkey you saw him holding like he was going to serve the troops. A decorative centerpiece. I shit you not. The Troops got their Turkey on steam trays. About what you'd expect, and no big deal there, but why does W. need to do the big Norman Rockwell photo op?

The Whitehouse is saying they had no idea the centerpiece was there, no idea the commander in chief was going to pick it up, etc. etc.

Reminds me of the "Mission Accomplished" banner.

It's no huge scandal, it's just niggling details, but what the hell is wrong with W. and his folks? Why does absolutely everything have to be gussied up fake shit?

I have a theory. The Unvarnished W is so repellent they don't want to take a single chance that someone might see it.

[Buffalo Tom]

Originally Posted by mburbank

Check it out. That Turkey you saw him holding like he was going to serve the troops. A decorative centerpiece. I shit you not. The Troops got their Turkey on steam trays. About what you'd expect, and no big deal there, but why does W. need to do the big Norman Rockwell photo op?

It's just indicative of the prevarication and gross exagerration that have been running themes in this whole operation. There was a documentary produced by CBC Newsworld called 'Deadline Iraq: Uncensored Stores from the War'. It was a series of interviews with journalists who were in Iraq covering the invasion. Remember the television reports of Saddam's statue being pulled down? I remember being led to believe that thousands of Iraqis had spontaneously gathered to celebrate their liberation by toppling that statue. It turns out, according to journalists who were present at the scene, many of whom were American, that the crowd numbered in the small hundreds and that the military had to round up even this amount. After the crowd had been assembled, military officers went to the Palestine Hotel and escorted several journalists to the city square so they could officially document the event.

[Cosmo Electrolux]

one of the idiots I work with said "after that, Bush has my vote". I'm afraid that most Americans share this same sentiment...goddamned idiots.

[The One and Only...]

After that, Bush has my vote.

[camacazio]

It feels warm and fuzzy to have your government shove double think down your throat.

[+tom-]

its sad that the masses are this predictable...

[camacazio]

Not predictable just brainwashable.

Tv grinds down the minds enough to let government swoop in and force the average american to think whatever the government wants us to think.

[The One and Only...]

I'm sure that internet message boards have a similar effect.

[Ballman]

Originally Posted by camacazio

Tv grinds down the minds enough to let government swoop in and force the average american to think whatever the government wants us to think.

Would this be from experience?, or are you just guessing?

[+tom-]

yea and no, yes they are mindless masses but they are still individuals, and though the government has alot of controll, in the end the individuals make the choice. bush knows exactlly what hes doing, cheezy photo op works (for most people)

BUT I WONT BE BRAINWASHED!

[Drew Katsikas]

Originally Posted by Cosmo Electrolux

one of the idiots I work with said "after that, Bush has my vote". I'm afraid that most Americans share this same sentiment...goddamned idiots.

what a fuck.

[ranxer]

tv grinding down the minds of individuals has been going for a while now.. every state has its propoganda, americas is just the best.

according to some it was in the 50's that advertising started the shift from telling us what a product or service was to sending the message that we are incomplete without product x and y. its the practice of the media giants for the large corporations to manufacture a need.. sell us a product or ideal to make a buck. as chomsky puts it 'manufacturing consent' for a policy or need for policy. fear, religion, etc.. just tools to manipulate.

let government swoop in and force the average american to think whatever the government wants us to think.

don't be fooled into thinking government is an enemy of the people.. the government is just a tool for those in power, those with the ability to sway the money flow or pay the bills(contributors). multinational corporations just love those folks that look as government as the enemy while they are running out the back door with the money and contracts for more.

government and the people demanding just representation is a tool of last hope for peaceful change.

[camacazio]

Originally Posted by The One and Only...

I'm sure that internet message boards have a similar effect.

But of course.

[mburbank]

Hee hee hee hee hee hee!

On 12/5, Vinth posted a link to this thread on Newsfilter.

It said " If this is the opposition to Bush...

Then Bush might as well settle in for about 4 more years..."

and linked to this thread.

To date, there have been ZERO responses.

Vinth. If you are still alive. Come back. They obviously don't care about you there, you are obviously too emotionally crippled right now to work on your own site. We love you here.