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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 01:36 PM        Gay Marriage
I don't feel like my marriage is all that threatened by the idea of Gay marriage. I don't feel like I need my marriage legall defended from gay marriage. I think anyone who does feel their marriage is threatened needs to take a look at the strengths and weaknesses of their marriage.

I don't feel marriage is directly tied to procreation. That would let out a lot of infertile marrieds I know.

I don't think God cares about who puts what in whom. I think God cares that we love each other and treat each other well.

As for the traditions of human history, all I really care about is that same sex couples have the same legal rights and advantages as my wife and I do. I think they should be able to make key medical decision for each other, visit each other in the hospital, etc. etc. etc.

As for the idea it's unnatural, who says? Maybe it's a perfectly natural, built in population control device.

Rick Santorum says it opens the door for incestous marriages. I think Rick is 'thinking' about incest a little too much. Last I checked, marriages have to be consensual. Is he saying there's a lot of consensual incest going on out there we don't know about?

I just don't think any of the arguments wash. I think the people who are up in arms about this are way too shrill. I think it all boils down to being revolted by and afraid off Homosexuality, and simple, garden variety hatred.
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 02:50 PM       
And to those of us who have SEEN your wife, we know that you ARE in a gay marriage.

Why the fuck would it bother YOU?

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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 03:24 PM       
Stoppa... Stoppa... where do I know that name from? OH! Wait, aren't you from Brawlhall? I thought your site got closed down when the government cut all that special ed funding.

Seriously, is your site still there? If I went back would it seem as if any time had gone by or is it still just "Oh, nice meltdown" "I own you" "No, I own you!" "Oh, sure, that's what a guy having a meltdown would say if someone who owned them got called owned."

Nice to see you getting out for a little air though, and it's nice to know you missed me so badly you had to drag yourself over here.

Speaking of Gay Marriage, how are Doomsday and Evil Blood doing?
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 03:26 PM       
I am all for gay marriage. My mother, however, is not. She feels that homosexual marriages threaten, not her marriage, but the very fabric of our moral standards in society. This is a bunch of bull-shit. Homosexuals are not "immoral" or "evil", they are simply living the way they feel they should live.

As to those people who think that they CHOOSE to live a homosexual life, let me ask you this. Are you CHOOSING to be straight? Who would choose to live the life of a homosexual if it is ridden with ridicule and hardships?

My philosophy is simple: Live and Let Live.
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 03:32 PM       
I totally support MA decision, too. However, I do kind of wonder if this is indicative to any sort of strange marriage definition changings in the future. Such as multiple parties, marrying yorself (Rodman) or bestiality.
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 03:51 PM       
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Stoppa... Stoppa... where do I know that name from? OH! Wait, aren't you from Brawlhall? I thought your site got closed down when the government cut all that special ed funding.

Seriously, is your site still there? If I went back would it seem as if any time had gone by or is it still just "Oh, nice meltdown" "I own you" "No, I own you!" "Oh, sure, that's what a guy having a meltdown would say if someone who owned them got called owned."

Nice to see you getting out for a little air though, and it's nice to know you missed me so badly you had to drag yourself over here.

Speaking of Gay Marriage, how are Doomsday and Evil Blood doing?


Admit it.

You missed me.
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 04:04 PM       
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 04:07 PM       
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I am all for gay marriage. My mother, however, is not. She feels that homosexual marriages threaten, not her marriage, but the very fabric of our moral standards in society. This is a bunch of bull-shit. Homosexuals are not "immoral" or "evil", they are simply living the way they feel they should live.

As to those people who think that they CHOOSE to live a homosexual life, let me ask you this. Are you CHOOSING to be straight? Who would choose to live the life of a homosexual if it is ridden with ridicule and hardships?

My philosophy is simple: Live and Let Live.
Agreed, the people who think that homosexuals choose their lifestyle should be hit with a stick and explained that certain processes in a homosexual's brain work diffirently than with heterosexual people. With homosexual men, certain parts in their brain are active that are usually more active in women, and with lesbian women it's reversed.
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 04:40 PM        Re: Gay Marriage
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As for the traditions of human history, all I really care about is that same sex couples have the same legal rights and advantages as my wife and I do. I think they should be able to make key medical decision for each other, visit each other in the hospital, etc. etc. etc.
When I see arguments of this type, I usually tend to be pragmatic and look to follow the money trail as it is they who usually form the strongest lobbies as far influencing legislation. In other words, who benefits financially from disallowing gay marriage? In this case, I just don't see it. Could it be a purely moralistic resistance and, if so, from who and for what? Why are people so quick to involve themselves (or more accurately, inflict themselves) into the lives of others? Simply nothing better to do? Fear of a decaying morals in our society? Decaying to what ... acceptance of others and an altruistic culture. What a horrible thing THAT would be. Sounds too much like ... like ... Christianity.

P.S. Try as they might, there has been no genetic links to homosexuality to this date. Looks like nurture is in the lead so far.
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 04:51 PM       
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I don't feel like my marriage is all that threatened by the idea of Gay marriage. I don't feel like I need my marriage legall defended from gay marriage. I think anyone who does feel their marriage is threatened needs to take a look at the strengths and weaknesses of their marriage.
Agree with you here.

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I don't think God cares about who puts what in whom. I think God cares that we love each other and treat each other well.
Well, we can argue over that. I believe he built us this way for a reason.

I also think that hate mongering and bigotry are far worse sins than homosexuality.

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Agreed, the people who think that homosexuals choose their lifestyle should be hit with a stick and explained that certain processes in a homosexual's brain work diffirently than with heterosexual people. With homosexual men, certain parts in their brain are active that are usually more active in women, and with lesbian women it's reversed.
And that part of the brain would be? And isn't that just as bigitous?

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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 05:10 PM       
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I did. That beeping sound you hear is me backing up my truck to try again.

Really?

You gonna' squeal the fuck outta' here like a bitch, like ya' did over at BH, already???

Damn.

I'm gooooooood.
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 05:29 PM       
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 06:43 PM       
And your comebacks suck donkey-dick.

See?

We're even.
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 06:55 PM       
that was the intellectual equivalent of calling someone a dookie head.

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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 07:16 PM       
I was surprised gay marriage wasn't even allowed in the first place. :/ stupid christians wouldn't allow us to live what goes naturally for us.
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 07:41 PM       
If announcing the date of ones departure several weeks in advance and then sticking to the date seem like squeeling out of a parking lot to you, I'm certain you impress the girls at the seven-eleven when, slurpy precariosuly gripped between hand and handlebar, your huffy lists dangerously on it's training wheels and dumps you onto the pavement.

Can you start another thread to be stupid in? This one is about gay marriage. Maybe you'd be more comfortable in the genral blabber forum. It's designed for mindless triffling.
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 07:47 PM       
Well, quite frankly, I just don't care.

It's not worth my tax dollars to enforce such a law, nor to pay senators to debate over this trivial crap. Government needs to quit giving benefits to married couples anyway - it shouldn't be the government's job to preserve social institutions.
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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 11:47 PM       
I completely fail to see how or WHY people could have a problem with the idea of gay marriage. Burbank summed it all up rather nicely in his first post.
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Old Nov 21st, 2003, 12:21 AM       
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As for the idea it's unnatural, who says?
Definitely not the 450 species found in nature that engage in it.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com.sg...gi?UniId=AD191

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Maybe it's a perfectly natural, built in population control device.
The population control theory is something I've wondered about myself... it would be interesting to see unbiased and accurate rates of homosexuality in extremely populous areas to compare. Although rates in themselves are pretty subjective I guess... not to mention the fact that in many countries it is so taboo that even if someone was gay, they'd probably rather die than admit it.
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Old Nov 21st, 2003, 10:35 AM       
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Agreed, the people who think that homosexuals choose their lifestyle should be hit with a stick and explained that certain processes in a homosexual's brain work diffirently than with heterosexual people. With homosexual men, certain parts in their brain are active that are usually more active in women, and with lesbian women it's reversed.
And that part of the brain would be? And isn't that just as bigitous?
No, because it's a fact. And like Soundtest said, animals do it, and they don't listen to their own common sense but to their instincts, so they couldn't have made the choice to become homosexuals.
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Old Nov 21st, 2003, 10:49 AM       
If I was gay, I would like to get married, and I would like people to want me to get married because that is what people who are in love do.

But I am not gay, so what do I care?
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Old Nov 21st, 2003, 11:38 AM       
oh i'm glad i saw this thread :o i can only get online for a lil a couple times a week nowadays.

though there's nothing i can add really. it's tiresome watching people fighting this every little step of the way while not presenting an argument that could stand to even casual scrutiny. especially stupid crap about it 'opening the floodgates :O' to moronic bullplop about people marrying their dog or something.

also. i think neal boortz supports homosexual rights, so i dunno if bizarro vince's's post is accurate. characterwise :o

in conclusion. i've talked with my boy about marriage, and even if it was legally possible it's not somethin we'd think much upon for years an years prolly.
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Old Nov 21st, 2003, 11:40 AM        Gay
I am more physically attracted to women but more emotionally attracted to men. Seriously.....which do you think is more of a choice?
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Old Nov 21st, 2003, 12:00 PM        Gay
Or maybe I should say learned behavior......
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Old Nov 21st, 2003, 12:39 PM       
Mew, you scamp, I didn't know you had yourself a man.
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