Americans and the "immigration debate"

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Originally Posted by Chojin

There's a reason they're called 'illegals', you know; It isn't just a fancy gang name.

It definitely feels like an invasion, and I live on the east coast, pretty far from the border. Everything I buy these days has instructions in spanish and english. I work on a construction site as part of the only non-illegal labor force there. Whatever the reason, it is still trespassing. Many Americans have a "come on my property and you's gon' get shot" attitude, and these people are basically coming into your neighborhood and throwing a block party. In spanish. With festive outfits. And we can all pretty much agree that hispanic music is terrible.

In my opinion they should be deported. There are PLENTY of Americans who WOULD 'deign' to do manual labor, and it is neither this country's fault nor duty to enrich these peoples' otherwise harder lives.

But then, no-one would have an opinion if they had all the facts.

I feel your pain. I used to work in construction as well, but the thing that always got me was that the ratio of American (black or white) work crews to Latin ones was always so dramatically skewed. I remember that the Anglos and the Negros sure worked as if they didn't want to be there, and I remember that the labor crews I did hire that originated south of the border tended to be pretty reliable in contrast.

That was several years ago, though... before they learned skilled trades like HVAC and Electrical. I can only imagine that by now the ratio in a lot of regions has become so skewed as to have rendered American labor crews nearly non-existant. If you are on one of the ones that are left, it's gotta be a lonely job site for a non-Latino.

That being said, the cultural differences between them and us I'd write off to normal human reaction to the situation in which our laws have left them. Ten years? Isn't that a bit excessive for a probationary period?

I'm a libertarian capitalist. I see no reason whatsoever to deny whomever wants it the American Economy as long as they are willing to participate in some sort of positive regard. I am part immigrants from many places and part Native. I can look back in American history and see that every wave of immigrants from every part of the world was in their turn discriminated against and oppressed for profit in much the same way our latest batch is.

We've even gone so far as to find our latest whipping boys within just a couple of years ago, with our wonderful little election referendum on gay marriage. It seems that whenever we find any opportunity to do so We The People, those that are born in the land that first implemented the concept that all our rights are born within us regardless of any other circumstances, just can't resist the temptation to deny the natural born rights of anyone we can.

EVERY single batch of immigrants that's ever washed up on our shores faced the same two-faces of America, from the Chinese to the Irish to the Thai. We despised them and then forced them into labor, and they eventually applied themselves to some ignored section of our American lifestyles, taking it over.

Just as gas prices go up EVERY summer and there's always a new reason why, Meso and South American immigrants are just the latest invasion of "other." It's just a bunch of political bullshit between now and once everybody's accepted it and moved on the the next group of victims.