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Old Jun 27th, 2006, 08:50 PM       
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what a fascinating assertion you have there. and it compliments your rhetoric without being just too guady. good form!
was that response supposed to do anything more thenyour usual "fuck off" hissy fit? remember when i used to bait you into posting something of SUBSTANCE? don't bother. you've proven you have none.
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Old Jun 27th, 2006, 09:51 PM       
yeah, but then i realized you had nothing of substance with which to counter. even your current baiting about Fawaz has been little more than "OMGLOL you take him seriously?!" I mean, if I were one to complain about lack of substance I could ask you what reasons you have for discounting everything that he's said, but you haven't really displayed any desire to converse at that level.

you're like a joke without a punchline.
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Old Jun 27th, 2006, 10:43 PM       
...and you're just like a punchine bag without a lifeline.

the difference here is, i'm sitting with a proof copy of "journey of the jihadist: inside muslim militancy" while you're just referencing it like the asshat you are. if you want to discuss it, then come back once you've read the fucking book. that way, when i counter with a reference to gerges of my own, you won't think it's putting words in your mouth, and you might actually get the punchline.

in the meantime, this is what a lazy google search turns up from the natinal review crowd:


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Militant Islam. Gerges consistently downplays the threat of militant Islam in general and Osama bin Laden in particular. One year before 9/11, he found that Osama bin Laden was "exceptionally isolated," and "preoccupied mainly with survival, not attacking American targets." He also ridiculed "exaggerated rhetoric" in Washington about the Bin Laden threat. Al Qaeda was no longer more than a "shadow of its former self," Gerges had the misfortune of writing, as bin Laden was "confined to Afghanistan, constantly on the run," and, "hemmed in by the United States, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt." Not just that, but his "resources are depleting rapidly." Gerges drew the bizarre conclusion that the U.S. government must have its reasons for "inflating his importance." Six months before 9/11, Gerges publicly ridiculed what he called "the terror industry" — his term for specialists voicing concerns about militant Islam — for fomenting an "irrational fear of terrorism by focusing too much on far-fetched horrible scenarios."
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Old Jun 28th, 2006, 12:19 AM       
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...and you're just like a punchine bag without a lifeline.
Touche, sir! I particularly like how a "punching bag with a lifeline" actually means something terribly clever. Your mastery of wit and the English language in general leave me feeling just like a toothbrush without a skyline!


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the difference here is, i'm sitting with a proof copy of "journey of the jihadist: inside muslim militancy" while you're just referencing it like the asshat you are.
OH MY GOD, YOU HAVE A BOOK! I should just give up right now!

I never referenced his book, smart guy. If I recall correctly, I referenced two articles at his website. Those may have been excepts from his book, but that would be irrelevant to the only point of that reference, which was that I was not making up my own terminology. Not that at this point I'd expect you to pay attention to points, or facts, or anything other than HOW STUPID AND WRONG ZIGGY IS, HYAH HYAH HYAH! HE REFERENCED GERGES, LOL!


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if you want to discuss it, then come back once you've read the fucking book. that way, when i counter with a reference to gerges of my own, you won't think it's putting words in your mouth, and you might actually get the punchline.
Putting words in my mouth is when you say "You think ____" when I have never said "I think ____". It really isn't that difficult to understand.

If Mr. Gerges is wrong about everything he's ever said because the fine, unbiased folks at National Review can take contextless snippets from pre-9/11 publications that certaily seem to indicate he was grievously mistaken about Bin Ladin, then why did you even bother reading his book? I mean the folks at National Review don't like him! And he didn't know Al Qeada could do a 9/11! I mean, EVERYONE knew they could that!

See what I did there? I just completely avoided addressing any "facts" National Review has at their disposal because I don't like their poilitics and think they're biased! Except I was being sarcastic in an attempt to parody what you have done with Gerges thus far in this forum. I hate spelling that out like that, as it takes all the humor out of it. But you must have a pretty warped sense of humor anyway, coming to a internet humor site specifically for its politics forum! Maybe, to you, that makes it even more hilarious! Who knows, LOL!


However, none of that in any way addresses a brief remark I made regarding his essay, nor does it matter to me, because I'm not the sort of person who latches onto an author or scholar and defines my entire universe around either believing or disbelieving everything word they say. I'm perfectly willing to believe that sometimes people say things that are wrong, and sometimes they say things that are right. Unless it's some random troll on an internet forum. I absolutely adore latching onto the wrongness of every word uttered by a self-important jerk like you.

If you really wanna debate about Mr. Gerges (which I don't - I'd much rather just call you names), then why didn't you do it in that thread, instead of bringing it up here? I seem to recall you were upset that I used the term "jihadist" to describe a group of people. I don't recall (or particularly care) what else upset you about that post, since you didn't bother to reply with anything of substance then, but I'm pretty sure Gerges isn't the only person on Earth to call these people jihadists, as a lazy Google search will indicate.

(NOTE: this is the part where you show me how wrong I was in an absolutely dumfounding fashion, and then laugh to yourself about how you're the smartest and funniest guy at this message board)
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Old Jun 28th, 2006, 01:07 AM       
No, this is the part where I encourage you to latch on to all this "wrongness" you attribute to me instead, then get over yourself and your fascination with my Assholeness.

Anyway, I think you've confused typing a lot of words, with substance. You're the one who suddenly embraced the term Jihadist as the Hallal term of choice, right? You're the one who dropped a name to back up your choice, right? If you can't see the irony in your choice, or why it's following you, well then you have obviously missed the point of the aestrisks in the first place, proving this has all gone so far over your head you should really just go back to spending your spare time sellling herbal exctasy instead. The fact is you run away from virtually even conversation where I do provide you with facts (like the rebutal to your assertion that this all stems from a movement founded in the 70's). So why bother wasting our time. Just keep saying "fuck you". It does wonders for arguing your position.

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then why did you even bother reading his book? I mean the folks at National Review don't like him! And he didn't know Al Qeada could do a 9/11!
Obviously I read these books just so I can show you how wrong you are in an absolutely dumbfounding fashion, and then laugh to myself about how I'm the smartest and funniest guy on the message board.

Hell, but if all else fails, just remind me we're on a satirical website. That's a fresh and exciting response.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. You're what Geggy has to look forward to in his old age.
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Old Jun 28th, 2006, 01:34 AM       
you jerks totally hijacked this thread
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Old Jun 28th, 2006, 04:46 AM       
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Profile: Somalia's Islamist* leader
http://www.garoweonline.com/2004pro/index.php?id=4055

"A former army colonel, Mr Aweys was put on the US list because he used to head al-Itihaad al-Islamiya, an Islamist militant group accused of having links to al-Qaeda in the 1990s."
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Holy shit, the mothership has landed. It's Funkadelic meets the Taliban!!!
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Old Jun 28th, 2006, 12:47 PM       
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Anyway, I think you've confused typing a lot of words, with substance.
Nice dodge! But again, you've replied to me by ignoring every point I tried to make, and latched onto something from another thread, which you won't bother to properly reference. I don't have time for that sort of bullshit, so just don't even bother, OK?


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The fact is you run away from virtually even conversation where I do provide you with facts (like the rebutal to your assertion that this all stems from a movement founded in the 70's).
I disagree that I "ran away" from that conversation or any other, but I have neither the time nor the inclination to dig trhough old threads right now.

The fact is that you read posts with blinders, pick out 1 or 2 snippets that you think you can tear apart and completely ignore the rest. In that sense, how can I run away from the conversation, when there is no conversation, but rather a very obnoxious and systematic method of conversational sabotage in nearly every exchange of dialogue between you and I?
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Old Jun 28th, 2006, 04:30 PM       
Conversational sabotage?

Well at least we're discussing how much you don't like me again. That's super productive.
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Old Jun 28th, 2006, 07:43 PM       
Oh, I'm sorry, please let's get back to solving all the world's problems. What shall we tackle first?

Oh, I know, let's find a cure for AIDS!
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Old Jul 4th, 2006, 08:35 PM       
Hard line islaamic regimes have lots of problems and in general i disagree with them, but stoning rapists gets a kudos from me.

As opposed to American colleges where you simply rape stoners.
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Old Jul 4th, 2006, 11:06 PM       
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