Who here is Jewish?

[mburbank]

So you're aware you're an asshole. It's not a cure, but it's a start.

[The One and Only...]

I'm a Qabalist.

[mburbank]

No, you're an idiot in an intellectual costume. Go away.

[Jeanette X]

Originally Posted by The One and Only...

I'm a Qabalist.

The Hell you are. I suppose that you bought one of those red string bracelets and now you think that you're some deep mystic. Stop co-opting our traditions.

[mburbank]

OMG, Kevin Locked My Thread!!!

And on the overly nasty rule too! If that rule was enforced, we'd never have had Vinth! THINK ABOUT THAT KEVIN!!

Okay, I'm officially moving my discussion of what a HUGE dick Abcdxxxx is to this thread, because it's somehwta on topic in that Abcdgdsfjsdf overlooks the central role of humor in Judaism, AND he thinks he's more sympatico with Jewocity than I am AND it's completely out of keeping with circumscision that he is such a HUGE dick.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

If you guys really want to attack each other on a personal/religious level, I'd prefer you take it to Mock Wars or General Blabber.

Vince was funny. This isn't funny. But if you must, and you can keep it to this thread, than ok. I don't care.

[Abcdxxxx]

No interest here. Burbank's pretty desperate to act out his father's joke in real life though. i-s-s-u-e-s.

[kahljorn]

"You have taken my oldest living Mocker Crown!!"

Not to bring this back to the first page but who's the oldest dead mocker?

[mburbank]

I don't know of any dead Mockers. You'll have to ask RoG.

Kevin, you are officially a poopyhead. Infinite power may corrupt infinitely, but teensy weensy bits of power corrupt surprsingly well. I find Abcddxxx pokeable. I must, as ever, follow my muse.

Abcddxxx, I got your issues right here. I think you are an arrogant, self important, egotistical prick. That, sir, is my i-s-s-u-e.

I assign you "Portnoy's Complaint". If you're read it within the last decade, I'll allow any opinion you may have, although if it disagrees with mine, it almost certainly means you missunderstood the book. If you have not read it, I am De Facto correct that you are a Dick, and "Bad For The Jews".

[The One and Only...]

What's wrong with me being a qabalist? It's the hermetic variety anyway, not the judaic.

[mburbank]

Oh, Oh, Oh, the HERMETIC version, Oh, see, now, I thought you were just dropping in to once more be a self involved bag of shit.

My mistake.

[kahljorn]

I've studied hermetics andqabalah, but didn't know there was a hermetic school of qabalism. You're probably talking about the hermetic orderof the golden dawn or some other occultist organization which incorporates it among other things. Have you read 777? What do you know about the QBL?

[mburbank]

OH GOOD LORD, DO YOU REALIZE WHAT YOU'VE DONE!? QUICK, TAKE A DEEP BREATH, HERE COMES A TIDAL WAVE OF CRAP!

[kahljorn]

lol

I regret nothing?

[Archduke Tips]

Originally Posted by mburbank

Oh, Oh, Oh, the HERMETIC version, Oh, see, now, I thought you were just dropping in to once more be a self involved bag of shit.

My mistake.

lol this thread is awesome now

[The One and Only...]

It's not really a hermetic "school" of qabalism, it's just that hermeticists adapted it to their purposes. There's also a Christian qaballah.

I haven't read Crowley - he's not really my type of ceremonialist. I work on a modified GD system.

[Archduke Tips]

Wow. You need to get out more.

[kahljorn]

What kind of modified GD?
do you read Austin Osman Spare?

You should read 777, it's just a table of correspondences comparing various religions/sciences with eachother, over the sephera. SO krshna or buddha or christ would all be the BEAUTIFUL sephera. It does the same for the pathways etc.
http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/libers/liber777.pdf

His books on yoga were also pretty good.

Well if you're a hermetic have you studied Hermes trismigestus? I think i remember sharing alink with you on the subject, the corpus hermeticum? what did you think?

[mburbank]

I don't generally like emoticons, but do we have one for despair?

[DuFresne]

Yes

[Sethomas]

Against what that guy with the theology degree said or whatever, The Septuagint was regarded as the truest representation of the Torah back in the day because the Jerusalem Hebrew Torah wasn't standardized until about 300 years after the Septuagint. Augustine commented that there was a certain idealogical appeal to reading the Torah in Hebrew, but he was an even bigger supporter of the Septuagint because of the amazing level of confluence among its eponymous 70 translators (Septuagint means "of the seventy", hence it being abbreviated LXX often). Plus, the removal of the deuterocanon in the Hebrew Scriptures was seen as a dick political move made in the late First Century to advocate the idea that nothing divine can come from outside of Israel.

[The One and Only...]

Originally Posted by kahljorn

What kind of modified GD?

I can't undergo lodge ceremonies, so I work off of a system that replaces them with the gradual building of the Sephiroth in the aura. Basically, it's just using the Middle Pillar throughout the grades but changing the correspondences as appropriate.

do you read Austin Osman Spare?

No, though I'm familiar with chaos magic.

You should read 777, it's just a table of correspondences comparing various religions/sciences with eachother, over the sephera. SO krshna or buddha or christ would all be the BEAUTIFUL sephera. It does the same for the pathways etc.
http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/libers/liber777.pdf

Dion Fortune had some quibbles over the correspondences, and I tend to favor her more. The Mystical Qabalah was an excellent read, clarified quite a bit.

Well if you're a hermetic have you studied Hermes trismigestus? I think i remember sharing alink with you on the subject, the corpus hermeticum? what did you think?

I don't know if I'd call myself a hermeticist, but the rites I perform are of a hermetic origin. Eventually I'd like to read the Corpus Hermeticum, but I have too little time right now.

I have, however, read the Kybalion.

Actually, I'm considering opting out of the GD system for a time to pathwork the Tree of Life. It's just a more accessible approach at this point in my life, though I think I can manage either way I decide.

[kahljorn]

What's the differences between the Septuagint and modern translations, Sethomas? Besides the obvious, of course ;(

also another thread reminded me OAO aren't you an alchemist as well? What do you think of Theophrastus Philippus Aureolus Bombastus von Hohenheim? It seems like he'd be right up your alley with being a hermetic alchemist and all...

[The One and Only...]

I'm not a grand occultist who has studied in incredible depth. I'm only an alchemist in the sense that I seek to transmute myself from lead to gold, the essential goal of the outer order of GD.

Also note my edit.

[kahljorn]

I've read most of Dion Fortune i like her books. I don't see how you can avoid crowley though. At the very least make it your best to read the following two things. In this order:

http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/libers/lib3.html
Read part one out of lib4
http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/aba/aba1.html

Book Four

by Frater Perdurabo and Soror Virakam

PART I

MEDITATION
THE WAY OF ATTAINMENT OF GENIUS OR GODHEAD CONSIDERED AS A DEVELOPMENT OF THE HUMAN BRAIN Issued by order of
the GREAT WHITE
BROTHERHOOD
known as the A.'.A.'.

Witness our Seal,
N.'.'
Praemonstrator-General

They are pretty much about the same thingbut they are considered fundemental aspects of mysticism. Only the first one is in typical crowleyian language, but it should be easy to decipher. The second one is more of a scholarly account of mysticism. If you read that you will probably know more about mysticism and yoga than most people who do yoga the exercise. You'll find out in the second read when it talks about asana which is only step 4 out of 8 to become a yogi.

I don't know I feel like we should have an entirely seperate thread I didn't really mean to shit on max's parade or anything i like parades.