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Old Jan 17th, 2005, 11:42 AM        US special forces in Iran?
ooh look what a fucking surprise. Its not proved yet, but its worrying that the White House says the report is 'riddled with innacuracies' as opposed to just not being true!:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4180087.stm

US special forces 'inside Iran'

Iran says its military is prepared for a US strike on its nuclear sites

US commandos are operating inside Iran selecting sites for future air strikes, says the American investigative reporter Seymour Hersh.
In the New Yorker magazine, Hersh says intelligence officials have revealed that Iran is the Bush administration's "next strategic target".

Hersh says that American special forces have conducted reconnaissance missions inside Iran for six months.

But the White House has described his article as "riddled with inaccuracies".

Potential targets include nuclear sites and missile installations, he says.

The New Yorker journalist adds that President Bush has authorised the operations, defining them as military to avoid legal restrictions on CIA covert intelligence activities overseas.

They constitute a revival of a form of covert US military activity used in the 1980s, notably in support of the Nicaraguan Contras.

'Working with Pakistan'

The task force has been penetrating eastern Iran from Afghanistan and leaving remote detection devices known as sniffers capable of testing for radioactive emissions in the atmosphere, Hersh says.

He reports as well that American special forces units have been authorised to conduct covert operations in as many as 10 nations in the Middle East and South Asia.

He quotes one senior intelligence official as saying a force in Pakistan is working with scientists who have had dealings with Iranian colleagues.

But the price for co-operation, the official said, was a US assurance that Islamabad would not have to hand over AQ Khan, the father of the Pakistani nuclear programme who last year admitted to illegally transferring nuclear secrets to Iran, North Korea and Libya.

'Riddled with inaccuracies'

Hersh bases his claims on anonymous sources, including former intelligence officials and consultants with links to the Pentagon.

One such consultant is quoted as saying that the civilians in the Pentagon wanted to go into Iran and destroy as much of the military infrastructure as possible.

There have also been calls from Pentagon hawks to use a limited attack on Iran to topple the country's religious leadership, one of Hersh's sources said.

The article has already drawn fire from the White House: the communications director, Dan Bartlett, called it "riddled with inaccuracies".

"I don't believe that some of the conclusions he's drawing are based on fact," Mr Bartlett added.

He said the diplomatic approach was still the priority.

"No president, at any juncture in history has ever taken military options off the table," he said. "But what President Bush has shown is that he believes we can emphasize the diplomatic initiatives that are under way right now."

The BBC's Justin Webb in Washington says that while Hersh could be wrong he has a series of scoops to his name, including the details of the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal last year.

His track record suggests that he should be taken seriously, our correspondent says.
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Old Jan 17th, 2005, 06:21 PM       
We have intelligence had officers there for who knows how long. If you think this is news, you need far more help than I can give you.

The only foreign commandos that can possibly be in there right now are the Israelis. They've done it before and are pretty damned successful.

Thats what "riddled with innacuracie" means.
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Old Jan 18th, 2005, 06:03 AM       
You can barely type.

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The only foreign commandos that can possibly be in there right now are the Israelis
Right, because you're in charge, yes? How the fuck do you know exactly?
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Old Jan 18th, 2005, 11:48 AM       
Blanco, while I'm sure Israel has commandos in Iran, that doesn't mean we don't. This is Seymour Hirsh we're talking about here/ While not infallable, his intelligence sources have proved far more reliable at every step of the way than the administrations. His track record is exellent.

I would bet that we have spies all ovr the middle east, and that part would not be news. Having spcial forces ops in Iran ACTIVELY SCOUTING TARGET SITES would be 'news'.
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Old Jan 19th, 2005, 01:33 AM       
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The only foreign commandos that can possibly be in there right now are the Israelis
Right, because you're in charge, yes? How the chumbawumba do you know exactly?
Anonymous source in the Pentagon.
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Old Jan 19th, 2005, 09:31 AM       
riiiight

Even an 'unknown source from the pentagon' told you that article was untrue, I would say that almost guarantees its happening.[/i]
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Old Jan 19th, 2005, 12:02 PM       
I think you're all missing the point here: just because the report is riddled with inaccuracies doesn't mean you can't act on it. Hell, we've been doing it for years. It's easy!
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Old Jan 19th, 2005, 01:36 PM       
When Seymour Hirsh goes with a 'highly placed source' he's generally on the money.
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Old Jan 19th, 2005, 02:14 PM       
From slate:

"Later in the hearing, Kerry brought up Hersh's article again. Rice, citing the Defense Department's public statement about the piece, said the article was "inaccurate." Kerry asked, "About Iran?" Rice replied, "It is inaccurate." Kerry repeated, "About Iran?" This exchange was repeated a few times. Finally, Rice said that hitting Iran with airstrikes was not U.S. policy. Kerry let it go. But it's worth pointing out that Hersh didn't claim it was policy, only that the top civilians in the Pentagon were pushing for it to be policy."

I was listening on the radio. It was kind of funny, kind of sad.
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