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Old Apr 17th, 2003, 01:36 PM       
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Old Apr 17th, 2003, 01:40 PM        LOL
I was thinking the same thing.....and yet here I am....
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Old Apr 17th, 2003, 01:46 PM       
I went to a super bad ass meeting with the Museum's comptroller about the new accounting System, so I feel fine about spending time here. I'm hungry though.
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Old Apr 17th, 2003, 03:17 PM       
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If you believe that communism is evil, why do you call Marx a "great man".
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Old Apr 17th, 2003, 03:23 PM       
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Communism is evil. Every time it is tried, it is produced nothing but evil. 100 Million+ have died from Communism. So sorry if I don't really value it. It is based on using my life to work for others because there is no God and nothing else to work for but the state.
While I certainly agree that communism is terrible for a large-scale society, in very small groups, such as communes or small primitive tribes, it can work. But those situations are the only practical applications of communism. It simply cannot work on a larger scale.

Edit: Dang. I made two posts again when I only should have made one. Sorry guys.
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Old Apr 17th, 2003, 05:53 PM       
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If you believe that communism is evil, why do you call Marx a "great man".
He was obviously being sarcastic. To be hilarious. And right.
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Old Apr 17th, 2003, 08:16 PM       
Vibe, religious wars have killed nowhere near the millions on a grand and deliberate scale Communism did. To even compare God to Communism make me want to vomit.

Communism never works. Never has, never will unless under extreme force. Religion is twisted to do evil. Communism goes against human nature. The concept of God does not. So please, don't even try to compare the greatness of God with the socialist wet dream of Communism
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Old Apr 17th, 2003, 08:18 PM       
Only person that seems to be thinking about child sex is you, Max. Should we call the DSS so they can get your daughter to safety?
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Old Apr 17th, 2003, 08:20 PM       
If the concept of God didn't conflict with human nature, why would there be a hell? Or better yet, the presence of a little jew boy that died to save everyone whose very natures would drive them from the Lord?
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Old Apr 17th, 2003, 08:28 PM       
Hell exists for those who disobey God. God is the be-all end all of existance, so he makes the rules. Not hard to understand at all.
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Old Apr 17th, 2003, 08:30 PM       
If God didn't conflict with human nature, why would people disobey him?
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Old Apr 17th, 2003, 09:01 PM       
Vince, you dunce, you're Catholic, so you should know that Hell is only for the unbaptized.
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Old Apr 18th, 2003, 06:00 AM       
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Vibe, religious wars have killed nowhere near the millions on a grand and deliberate scale Communism did. To even compare God to Communism make me want to vomit.
No really, I dub this the absolute most moronic statement you have EVER made on these boards.

Thousands of years of human history drenched with religious wars, and you think a little 19/20th century concept of government can do better than that? Then again, I guess you blame this all-encompassing concept of communism for pretty much all the casualties of war during the years of the Soviet Union, cause I don't see how you come to such a ridiculous idea otherwise.
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Old Apr 18th, 2003, 07:29 AM       
I'm get back a little over 2 grand of my own money with no interest added this year.
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Old Apr 18th, 2003, 07:51 AM       
FS, tell me why it is so dumb? Because its a TRUE statement?

Communism on record has murdered more people than religious wars have on record. The Great Leap Forward by that pie-face Mao, Pol Pot's re-education caps, the starvation of the N. Koreans, the murders in Vietnam after we left, it all adds up and STILL adds up!

A little concept of govt, huh? Are you joking with me or are you a fucking retard? Communism is still around. Maoists are in Nepal trying to take over right now. The guys I lived with in my appartment are from there, and it's a pretty shitty situation over there right now. So please, give communism it's due.
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Old Apr 18th, 2003, 09:38 AM       
Vince. No one on this board mentioned child sex until it popped out of that nasty little leeching field you call your head.

I'm curious though. What exactly is the number of people who have died 'from' communism? Just ballpark. Where are you getting this figure from?

What exactly is the number of people who died 'from' religion? See, since you're including all kinds of things that weren't Communist wars, but simply horrible communist conditions, then you need to include not only all of human history's bloody religous conflicts (The Crusades, the War of the Roses, etc. etc. etc.) But also the Inquisition, the Holocaust you are so fond of sighting, The Roman persecution of Christians, why even the Crucifiction of Christ was an example of religous persecution. Hell, David Koresh and company wouldn't have died if not for their religous beliefs.

I'm sure you've got some bizarre Vince logic the barrows the definition of which people died due to religion and which religous deaths have nothing to do with Marx, but I'd say all of the ones I've sited were due to belief in God, either the killers, or the victims.

I'd say that's every bit as legitimate a link as the one you're making between The Khmer Rouge and Marx. I'm pretty certain that Marx and Lennon would not have recognized Pol Pot as a fellow traveller.
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Old Apr 18th, 2003, 10:57 AM        Communism / Religion
We can also add in all the deaths of those who didn't convert
Native Americans
Pacific Islanders
Africans
Slaves (yes there is a difference)
Those who practiced any of the old religions

Hell, our current war can be seen as a religious war. Bush has made it clear it is for God.

What about hate crimes?


And these are just from the Christian religion alone.
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Old Apr 18th, 2003, 11:00 AM       
OH MY GOD!

I just realized something!

Vince is dumb.
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Old Apr 18th, 2003, 11:06 AM       
you mean...HE CAN'T SPEAK?!
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Old Apr 18th, 2003, 11:10 AM       
Exactly my point. Vince, does your imagination stretch past the last century?

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Communism on record has murdered more people than religious wars have on record.
Look, you canned ham of a man, what does it matter whether it's on record or not? Centuries of war don't count because someone wasn't around to chisel down the corpse count for future generations to use in their arguements? I don't know what exactly you're all tossing on a pile you like to call communism, but I think it's a tad more than is fair.

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A little concept of govt, huh? Are you joking with me or are you a fucking retard? Communism is still around. Maoists are in Nepal trying to take over right now. The guys I lived with in my appartment are from there, and it's a pretty shitty situation over there right now. So please, give communism it's due.
Gasp! And pay homage to a system of government that's killed billions upon trillions? Never!

You must have missed my sarcasm. In comparison to millenia of entire peoples slaying each other with their concept of God on the brain, what a group of political parties and dictators have done to their own country over the past two centuries (and now) pales to a dirty white.
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Old Apr 18th, 2003, 11:22 AM        Past
Vince -

This is one of the reasons why museums are important to the world. They help to keep a record of the past.
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Old Apr 18th, 2003, 11:25 AM       
VIBE!!

Knocked that one outa the park, baby.
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Old Apr 18th, 2003, 12:34 PM       
Wow, musems keep records of the past! Man, big fucking whoop! Because, if we didn't know what kinds of grain the Egyptians used 3000 years ago we would collapse as a society! I have nothing against museums. In fact, I like them. But they are not a neceesary means for a society to exists. I don't live in the past, I live right now.
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Old Apr 18th, 2003, 12:36 PM        Wow
You are unbelievably naive.
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Old Apr 18th, 2003, 12:39 PM       
They let you work for a school? You're not involved with actual education in any way, shape or form, right?
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