LET'S ARGUE ABOUT VIDEO GAMES

[Dr. Boogie]

I had a free year subscription to it, but then they wanted money. I said no thank you, and a couple months later, the magazine folded. Coincidence?

[Fathom Zero]

They got bought. UGO decided to pretty much just toss all of 1UP. Fuckers.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Almost every gaming magazine is/was garbage. EGM had articles that were actually worth reading, though. They became less in number as the internet started telling people the news a month before the magazines hit the stands. Throw in the fact that 3-man reviews were slowly getting phased out, plus the resignation of Shoe, and the magazine just wasn't what it used to be.

Actually, everyone knew EGM was probably going to be sold since Ziff Davis filed for bankrupcy. But ending the magazine, podcasts (!), and 1up Show (!!!) while simultaneously firing 30 people is really harsh, man.

The people running 1up were a big part of the network's appeal, because they had a lot of personality. Sure, people disagreed with them a lot, but they were also cool about it. They never talked down to their audience because they actually liked this hobby. 1up was a crappy website, but EGM didn't deserve to go down like this.

EDIT: Interview with UGO and 1UP: http://www.destructoid.com/destructo...7790.phtml#ext

[Guitar Woman]

Yahtzee Croshaw should write an entire magazine every month so I could buy it

[OxBlood]

I think there are plenty of problems with gaming-mags.

-They are never up to date (print)
-They are never objective or neutral
-They tend to tell you things about games you know anyway and don´t reveal important details.

[WhiteRat]

Originally Posted by OxBlood

I think there are plenty of problems with gaming-mags.

-They are never up to date (print)
-They are never objective or neutral
-They tend to tell you things about games you know anyway and don´t reveal important details.

Mags appeal to me because i'm not the hardcore gamer that I used to be (once the PS2/XBOX era hit, I started to drift away from gaming) and it's nice to get a new issue every month to quickly catch up on what's going on in the VG world. The only mag I even read was EGM, mainly because I loved the staff during the late 90's and I tended to agree with their reviews.

That, and nothing beats reading video game mags while on the shitter.

[bigtimecow]

oh and also THE INTERNET

[Zomboid]

I stopped buying gaming mags when my family got a new computer and a decent internet connection in like '98.

[Supafly345]

Holy shit nooooo. There was a tiny archive of incredible seanbaby content on 1up. Fuck, maybe he'll get a column on UGO.

[Phoenix Gamma]

seanbaby's had his own site for years, man. Sometimes he puts up EGM stuff that didn't make it to print.

I loved his reviews. I particularly remember his reviews for Cat In the Hat (GBA) Rugrats (PS2) and Barbie's Princess Adventure (GBA) being really entertaining.

[Supafly345]

Originally Posted by Phoenix Gamma

seanbaby's had his own site for years, man. Sometimes he puts up EGM stuff that didn't make it to print.

You talk about it like everyone on earth doesn't know that (which they do). But he hasn't updated with regularity since 2002. Really, its like you just discovered seanbaby.

The real crime is that with EGM shutting down AND the Wave stopping his column, both sources of regular content from seanbaby are gone. He once said that its hard to write for the internet once you start getting paid to do it. Maybe he'll return to his website.

[pac-man]

I'd been reading EGM since the Sushi-X days. Gonna have to find new bathroom reading material.

[Supafly345]

Mags appeal to me because its much more enjoyable to read the writings of an actual journalist. My problem is they are TOO objective, meaning they decide a games worth on its overall preformance among graphics music whatever, rather than just funfactor. They try to stand back as if it were a painting instead of what just grading it on how much fun they had.

[OxBlood]

Originally Posted by Supafly345

Mags appeal to me because its much more enjoyable to read the writings of an actual journalist. My problem is they are TOO objective, meaning they decide a games worth on its overall preformance among graphics music whatever, rather than just funfactor. They try to stand back as if it were a painting instead of what just grading it on how much fun they had.

Are you serious? Over here, the Mags are as subjective as the sites most of the time, can´t rely on much they say. Also, many of them really don´t have a lot of knowledge about Videogames. At least that´s the impression I get. Then again, Germany is PC-Gaming-Territory...or was, which also explains some of the Consolebashing, the PC-Mags love to do.

[Nick]

I used to buy Tips and Tricks, Gampro, and EGM every month when I was younger. Things have gotten kind of sour since T&T went out of business, Gamepro changing up it's unique layouts and character avatars in favor of being bland. Now without EGM, it's pretty much only Gamepro and Game Informer. Even if I can get all the info online, I enjoy helping out game mags with my business.

[pac-man]

I agree that reading an actual journalist is better. Maybe it's something about ink and paper, but I always feel that something that has been edited and published is more legitimate (if not always more reliable) than a website.

[Nick]

I miss those puzzles Tips and Tricks had in the back of their mags. I love coloring squares in.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Wut. All I said is that he has a site that has stuff on it, jerk

[Nick]

His site hasn't been updated in like two years, though.

[Guitar Woman]

Gaming sucks too much these days to be worth writing about

Just assume everything made after 2006 is shit and then don't play it

[MetalMilitia]

...Says the guy with 226.8 hours logged in TF2. I bet you hated every minute.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Maybe he's a masochist? Or a liar. Either or.

There have been plenty of good games since '06. '07 was an awesome year, and while '08 wasn't as awesome, it was still really solid.

[Nick]

Sean Baby only reviews crap. Going by GW's logic Sean Baby should be updating his site every hour.

[Tadao]

With your posts!

Spoilers!

YOU JUST GOT HOLOCAUSTED!

[Guitar Woman]

I'm not saying there aren't still good games, you guys.

I also play shitty games a lot more than you'd think.

Half Life, Metal Gear Solid, The Elder Scrolls, Korean MMOs, the Tales series, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Summon Night, a metric goddamn fuckton of awful point-and-click adventures, the pre-4 Resident Evils, Street Fighter, Diablo, that sort of stuff.

Lately I've been struggling through Silhouette Mirage. Absolute tripe.