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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 04:44 PM       
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DO WE AGREE THERE IS RATIONING PANELS (AKA DEATH PANELS) IN THE NEW OBAMA HEALTHCARE BILL WHOSE INTENT IS TO SYSTEMATICALLY KILL AMERICA? I WIN YAY
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 04:45 PM       
Rationing panels? Yes. Death panels? No.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 04:47 PM       
But don't you get it Dimnos, rationing = genocide much like sheep = hammer or chair = potato. IT MAKES SENSE
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 04:50 PM       
OH! HOW DARE YOU MISQUOTE ME AND TWIST MY WORDS AROUND. I SOOOOOOO PUT A DAMN IN THERE!
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 04:50 PM       
YES DO MORE RESEARCH BY READING BLOGS AND WEBSITES AND TOTALLY DISREGARDING ANY ACTUAL STUDIES OR READING THE ACTUAL BILL OR LEARNING ABOUT ACTUAL LAW

THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE IS THE TRUTH
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 04:51 PM       
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YES DO MORE RESEARCH BY READING BLOGS AND WEBSITES AND TOTALLY DISREGARDING ANY ACTUAL STUDIES OR READING THE ACTUAL BILL OR LEARNING ABOUT ACTUAL LAW

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A lot of caps going on here.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 04:52 PM       
AMERICA'S HERO COOLIE CONTINUES HIS VIGILANCE
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 05:01 PM       
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AMERICA'S HERO COOLIE CONTINUES HIS VIGILANCE
So, I proved the existence of Death Panels headed up by Peter Orzsag to ration care on the US population and TheLeader can't come to terms with this? I'm not holding it over anyones head I just told you what's going on....no need to get all bent outta shape comrade.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 05:21 PM       
You cant come to terms with the fact you havnt done any of that.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 05:28 PM       
He keeps insisting that we are all raging over this so I wonder if he is actually all huffy and puffy and assumes that we are as emotionally fragile as he is.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 06:08 PM       
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He keeps insisting that we are all raging over this so I wonder if he is actually all huffy and puffy and assumes that we are as emotionally fragile as he is.
Unfortunately, I believe this is true.

But damn it all, I have no links or blogs to quote to prove it.
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As usual, the most dangerous parts of ObamaCare aren't receiving the scrutiny they deserve—and one of the least examined is a new commission to tell Congress how to control health spending. Democrats are quietly attempting to impose a "global budget" on Medicare, with radical implications for U.S. medicine.

Like most of Europe, the various health bills stipulate that Congress will arbitrarily decide how much to spend on health care for seniors every year—and then invest an unelected board with extraordinary powers to dictate what is covered and how it will be paid for. White House budget director Peter Orszag calls this Medicare commission "critical to our fiscal future" and "one of the most potent reforms."
.......

Worse, it makes little room for medical innovations. The commission is mandated to go after "sources of excess cost growth," meaning treatments that are too expensive or whose coverage will boost spending. If researchers find a pricey treatment for Alzheimer's in 2020, that might be banned because it would add new costs and bust the global budget. Or it might decide that "Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller," as President Obama put it in June.
.......

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...025055040.html

ehhhh....^ This isn't difficult to comprehend.

Is it wrong? Is it false? Is it Make-believe?

Please...explain to me in an intelligent way why this isn't true...THANX - K - BUHBYE
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 07:59 PM       
A little bit of truth with a little bit of taking comments out of context and then applying them to everything etc. It's just too difficult for you to interpret information is all. ;/
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 08:06 PM       
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A little bit of truth with a little bit of taking comments out of context and then applying them to everything etc. It's just too difficult for you to interpret information is all. ;/
I can't get enough of your mental gymnastics. Please show me more.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 08:10 PM       
How many phrases do you have? Can't you come up with something original or are you going to keep using the same tired stuff?
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 08:19 PM       
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How many phrases do you have? Can't you come up with something original or are you going to keep using the same tired stuff?
Come on,

Tell me that the rationing panel doesn't exist. Please...tell me how they won't be rationing care and subsequently killing people but instead handing out muffins....come on ....please! Gimme something to laugh at
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 08:22 PM       
You weren't talking about a rationing panel, you were talking about a death panel who, in your lack of logic and knowledge, you accuse of carrying out a genocide. Plus you're the one who makes others laugh, I just help to provoke your work.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 08:24 PM       
I am going straight to hell for this:

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/pal...-death-panels/

Read it Coolinator. Then tell me how this is biased toward the left. It is probably the most balanced treatment of this particular controversy to date. And not only does it provide dirct quotations from the parties involved (Obama, Palin to name two) but it also critiques the spin from BOTH sides of the aisle.

Say what you want about the Annenberg Foundation, this treatment is a lot more balanced and reasonable than any neo-conservative blog you care to quote.

There. I've done what you asked. Now "tear me to shreds". I promise to enjoy it.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 08:28 PM       
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You weren't talking about a rationing panel, you were talking about a death panel.
When you ration care what does that do to the person who you are rationing? And what group or population of people will be affected by this rationing panel?




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Not even going there. The article doesn't even bring up Peter Orzsag or the Rationing committee.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 08:30 PM       
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When you ration care what does that do to the person who you are rationing? And what group or population of people will be affected by this rationing panel?
What, you don't know?

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Not even going there. The article doesn't even bring up Peter Orzsag or the Rationing committee.
Of course not. You don't want to be shown that you're wrong.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 09:03 PM       
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Na,

Not even going there. The article doesn't even bring up Peter Orzsag or the Rationing committee.
Oh very good. Quite a mature and convincing argument.

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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 09:04 PM       
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Oh very good. Quite a mature and convincing argument.

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So you admit that you're wrong?
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 08:32 PM       
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This year, it is targeting such frivolous luxuries as knee replacements, spinal cord stimulation, a specialized autism therapy and MRIs of the abdomen, pelvis or breasts for cancer.
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Let's make it simple.

What will happen to the people who don't get MRI's to check for cancer?
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