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[Sethomas]

You think what would god think and why would god think thusly. You are in a position to do so, why? *groan*

Being a pretentious dork is a suitable position to do so, n'est-ce pas? If you'd like to actually contradict such a point, be my guest.

No you see not believing in something until a clear succint believable attempt towards proving it has been made is not a bias; it's common sense.

"clear," "succint," and "believable" are all highly subjective terms and so do not rightly belong in a claim to common sense unless they are given a standard of comparison.

And you ARE biased, because apparently you've sat down and said "A god MUST exist! Now, let's try to prove it!" and as the aristotle which you've understood since you were eight would have told you, that's a flawed foundation in a epistemoligical attempt.

I've witnessed god at work several times in my life, and so I made an effort to rationalize his existence to myself. How is that any different than Newton witnessing rainbows and consequentially striving to explain the defraction of light?

But to go with what you're saying if you're willing to accept that there's such a thing as eternity, then the universe could just as well be eternal.

Bullshit, since time does not pass in eternity.

Your naive demand of a god is superfluous.

Only in that I only believe in a god for personal reasons. Playing with Occham's razor, I should be dead too many times over for my life to really make sense. I don't have to prove God's existence to myself. I won't define what god actually is because I have never claimed to actually know that. He seems to have a design, which would imply a will and thus sentience, but I'm not altogether committed to that idea.

Perndog, so what if Boethius didn't like music. Where do you get that he thought the world was flat? He and his contemporaries speculated on the existence of antipodals, which requires a round planet. More importantly, so the fuck what? He was a philosopher, not a cartographer.