Max has really disgusted me.

[Perndog]

Originally Posted by Helm

That's what hedonism basically is, satan boy. Well, it's a bit more complicated than that, but he basically weighed out the pros and cons of any given indulgence, and social profit or lack thereof, was a big factor towards control. Hedonism as overindulgence in vice is a popular but mistaken application of the word. Much like how idealism is commonly and mistakenly used to protray as a characteristic, he who adheres to high-minded ideals, whereas idealism truly is an ontological philosophy adhering to the premise that there is an ideal, static world which we fail to fully comprehend, due to sensory limitation. In many ways opposite to materialism. But it's good enough that an american knows who Epicuros is, so I shouldn't complain.

I was mistaken about Epicurus (now that I've done some homework) - he actually was an egoistic hedonist. He thought a simple and virtuous life and the limiting of desires (rather than their indulgence) was the best path to pleasure, though, which is the information I was going on. I had a hard time reconciling hedonism with the kind of ascetic life Epicurus advocated.

And I do know what hedonism is; I claim to be a hedonist myself.

*waits for the predictable response*