Kulturkampf's Fun-Time Philosophy Jamboree! (merged)

[Kulturkampf]

Originally Posted by pac-man

Why shouldn't Christianity be the "main target" of atheist derision? And what makes LDS more ridiculous than anything else?

I do not think that it should have to be explained why LDS is ridiculous. Do a small amount of research and if you disagree with me I will laugh at you.

Christianity should not be the main target because Islam is far more sick and laughable.

Originally Posted by Jeanette X

So the Mormon's aren't true Christians? A fine example of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_scotsman


So you can't be a Christian unless you follow your narrow interpretation of the Bible? Tell me, do you also regard self-identified Christians as hypocrites if they don't keep kosher?

Well, you know that dietary laws were pretty much overturned by Christ, don't you?

And you know that Mormons follow a secondary book that is absurd, don't you?

I am not one to judge the measure of Christianity but I am also not the one who is going to include strange, polygamist cults as Christian.

Originally Posted by pac-man

It's not even that complicated. Christians are the most annoying to non-Christians.

And what are Muslims?

Originally Posted by ZeldaQueen

The reason Christianity is picked on is because it's one of the largest religions in the world. It's like how whenever a huge craze comes up (Pokemon, D&D, etc), there are people who make fun of it and people who complain how it's harmful, useless, ruining the youth, etc.

If something's so big, of course there's going to be criticism. You can't expect something to be universally popular.

No religions should be the object of ridicule or scorn in my opinion. It's the people in the religion who do the stuff we pick on, not the religion itself.

Islam is about as big as Christianity, as I remember.

Your last statement is generally fair, by the way.

Originally Posted by Dr. Boogie

Why would you want christians to call him on it? You just said that most of them don't care that much about gay marriage.

It sounds like you want them to have a problem with gay marriage. If that happened, it would provide an answer to the title of this thread.

I want people to call him onit because I hate the way politicians pose for religion, and more than that, I hate Barack Obama and the DNC; I strongly dislike all of the Republicans as well.

I think these people should have no power -- let alone power over our goddamned economy.

[Jeanette X]

Originally Posted by Kulturkampf

Well, you know that dietary laws were pretty much overturned by Christ, don't you?

And you know that Mormons follow a secondary book that is absurd, don't you?

I am not one to judge the measure of Christianity but I am also not the one who is going to include strange, polygamist cults as Christian.

Who gives a shit? For someone who isn't a Christian, you certainly have your panties in a knot over who is and who isn't. And by the way, the mainstream LDS hasn't practiced polygamy in over 100 years, not that it contradicts the Bible to do so.

[Kulturkampf]

Originally Posted by ZeldaQueen

Right. I really can't see how your whole "Islam isn't nearly as targeted" thing works when there're people after September 11th who have taken on the "only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" idea. Which, I think, is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are the only three religions in the world who worship one God (the rest are polythesitic). They started in the same area and have the same people in their religions.

I believe there is also a Vietnamese religion that is monotheist... Just to... Let you know...

I also think Sikhism is monotheist...

Originally Posted by Jeanette X

Who gives a shit? For someone who isn't a Christian, you certainly have your panties in a knot over who is and who isn't. And by the way, the mainstream LDS hasn't practiced polygamy in over 100 years, not that it contradicts the Bible to do so.

The New Testament doesn't support polygamy, so if we are talking about the Bible from a Christian standpoint, you should consider fucking off back to the Library for a refresher.

[Jeanette X]

Originally Posted by Kulturkampf

I believe there is also a Vietnamese religion that is monotheist... Just to... Let you know...

I also think Sikhism is monotheist...



The New Testament doesn't support polygamy, so if we are talking about the Bible from a Christian standpoint, you should consider fucking off back to the Library for a refresher.

The OLD TESTAMENT supports it, you twatwaffle. Or is the Old Testament totally irrelevant to Christianity in your opinion?

[Kulturkampf]

Originally Posted by Jeanette X

The OLD TESTAMENT supports it, you twatwaffle. Or is the Old Testament totally irrelevant to Christianity in your opinion?

Anything Christ made irrelevant is certainly... Irrelevant.

Christ spoke of marriage as the union of a man and a woman; polygamy is a thing of the past in Christian belief and doctrine.

[Jeanette X]

Originally Posted by Kulturkampf

Anything Christ made irrelevant is certainly... Irrelevant.

Christ spoke of marriage as the union of a man and a woman; polygamy is a thing of the past in Christian belief and doctrine.

So why do you squeal in outrage over gay relationships, and yet you don't breathe a word about divorce, which is expressly condemned in the New Testament save in the case of adultery:

31"It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'a]" class="footnote">[a] 32But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery. -Matthew 5:31-32

Why do you call LGBT supportive Christians hypocrites and yet seem so apathetic about divorce for reasons other than adultery?

[ZeldaQueen]

Originally Posted by Kulturkampf

I believe there is also a Vietnamese religion that is monotheist... Just to... Let you know...

I also think Sikhism is monotheist...

Technically Sikhism's more of a philosophy and has no definite concept of God (they define God as the Universe).

The Vietnamese religions are various forms of Buddhism (which has no "God" but the lifeforce of Nirvana, as Buddha is simply a man who first achieved enlightenment), with the later additions of Christianity (no explanation needed I hope), Islam (again, I said it was monotheistic), and Hinduism (which is very much polytheisitic).

You might be thinking of Confucianism or Daoism? Confucianism is not so much a religion as a way to live your life ethically, through various codes of conduct and the "gentlemanly arts". Daoism is a religion that calls for the respect of ancestors and the balance of nature and elements of our spirit (it's a bit difficult to explain). There is, as far as I know, no definite "God" image as it is more of a blend of religious views and philosophy than actual religion (this is where the concept of Ying and Yang come from).

If you remember what this religion you're thinking of is called, please tell me (I'm fascinated by religions, as you can probably tell).