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Old Apr 14th, 2009, 06:44 PM       
Gotta disagree man.. this is a fairly great movie. The problem is star trek fanboys don't get it because it isn't a good star trek movie. (Yes there is a difference.)

The thing is, star trek movies were prety much supposed to end after II (or a least be sans-spock, which would essentially have killed the franchise anyway) so they gave spock this big glorius death scene expecting the film to only do marginly better than 1. When part II became the hottest thing since sliced bread, they were sorta screwed. Part III was just a giant plot-hole-filling device to get things back on track. So keeping that in mind it's amazing that this film turned out as good as it did.

1 1/2 pickles? Nah! It's at least a three pickle film.
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Old Apr 17th, 2009, 02:31 AM       
Being a parody makes something bad? Well, it's fine if you don't like parodies, but I don't see how being a parody is a de facto reason for being bad.

"We might as well have a movie equivalent of those episodes where someone gets trapped in the hologram set to THE NAPOLEONIC WARS or THE BEUBONIC PLAGUE"

What are you talking about? Do you mean the bubonic plague?

And wasn't the movie in the 80's? Isn't that why it is centered around the 80s? I'm getting mixed messages on why you don't like the movie, but I really don't care too much.
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Old Apr 17th, 2009, 02:38 AM       
Yeah, Star Trek IV was a very well-written parody, and its 80s theme is classic. It also has a good soundtrack. While its environmental message may be less than subtle, it's pretty entertaining as well. Same with 2, and even 3, so I don't understand the one and a half rating. The rest of the original trek movies blow, and only one of the bad ones is good for laughs. One and Six are beyond horribly boring films.
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Old Apr 17th, 2009, 12:46 PM       
I think I outlined quite clearly why being a parody of itself is a bad thing, but I guess you only pick up on typos.

Also, please don't pretend you actually believe your contextual logic. I wasn't aware that the reality of every episode of the series was centred around the 60s, as your logic dictates. I always thought the idea of fiction was that it could be set anywhere at any time.

I was willing to have a decent argument with you, but you are snooty and all around terrible.

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Old Apr 17th, 2009, 06:34 PM       
I guess you got your browser word search kernel set to automatic, like me. I really got to deactivate it one of these days.

Lulz at anyone who uses the term "contextual logic" in a Star Trek conversation. It's funny how such an old thing can bring out the armchair intellectual and wannabe film critics in anyone.

I wasn't picking up on a typo, I was seriously asking. I don't even remember a Star Trek episode about the Bubonic Plague, but because there has been OVER 9,000, I really can't be sure.

If you're willing to have an argument over an opinion of a film, then you either have an unwarranted aura of self-importance, or you don't get the point of an opinion.

Can't you have some of those deep discussions about contextual logic about a more meaningful topic?

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Old Apr 17th, 2009, 07:59 PM       
I agree.Star trek 5 was fucking bonkers
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Old Apr 17th, 2009, 08:24 PM       
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Old Apr 17th, 2009, 09:04 PM       
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Lulz at anyone who uses the term "contextual logic" in a Star Trek conversation.
I'm sorry, I'll try to use a less complicated term than context to describe context next time.

Hey berrypievision, post in the other forums please. You seem like the kind of person who would make a lot of friends! "Lulz" is a real corker, I'd like to see that one again! Or tell me how "distinguish" has too many syllables by law for a movie discussion, and how that word should be cordoned off to the book forum, where those hoity toity snobs talk about their "meaningful topics." Keep those nerd words outta here buddy!
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Old Apr 17th, 2009, 09:15 PM       
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Lulz at anyone who uses the term "contextual logic" in a Star Trek conversation.
I think that's more or less the EXACT VERNACULAR that should be exercised when speaking about Star Trek.
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Old Apr 18th, 2009, 10:03 AM       
[I'm sorry, I'll try to use a less complicated term than context to describe context next time. ]

Lulz...

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Hey berrypievision, post in the other forums please. You seem like the kind of person who would make a lot of friends! "Lulz" is a real corker, I'd like to see that one again! Or tell me how "distinguish" has too many syllables by law for a movie discussion, and how that word should be cordoned off to the book forum, where those hoity toity snobs talk about their "meaningful topics." Keep those nerd words outta here buddy!]

Hoity toity? Lulz.

You're a lulzcow.

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Lulzcow

I don't think I'd ever want to go on the forums, as this site rather details it well:

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/I-Mockery#Forums

[I think that's more or less the EXACT VERNACULAR that should be exercised when speaking about Star Trek. ]

Nah, the exact vernacular has to involve anti-time, warp bubbles, and positronic matrix's.
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Old Apr 18th, 2009, 10:18 AM       
Butthurt people arguing over the internet is always fun.
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Old Apr 18th, 2009, 11:35 AM       
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Hoity toity? Lulz.

You're a lulzcow.
It's like reading Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man in reverse with this guy. Have I been subject to some modernist experiment all along? One can only assume he'll be reinserting himself into the womb any moment now.
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Old Apr 18th, 2009, 02:34 PM       
Is he some kind of ED salesman or something.
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Old Apr 19th, 2009, 03:26 AM       
Nope, just a defender of the lulz here. Just being a true EDiot is all.
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Old Apr 19th, 2009, 09:38 AM       
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Old Apr 25th, 2009, 01:24 AM       
AVGN reviewed this, and had very different things to say about the film.

http://www.cinemassacre.com/new/?p=1134

I agree with him more.
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Old Apr 25th, 2009, 08:36 AM       
Everytime I hear that guy I think it's Jamesman.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 02:03 PM       
My favorite part of this movie is when Obi Wan cut's Darth Maul in half.
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