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Old Mar 17th, 2009, 02:56 PM        Weekly Comic Review: Batman Cacophony # 1-3
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Old Mar 17th, 2009, 03:36 PM       
I don't read comic books but I have watched many of Smith's movies. The thing about Smith is that he sucks at writing any sort of emotion or character development. The only thing he ever does right is fast, punchy, crude dialogue. It doesn't surprise me that he would fail with Batman.
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Old Mar 17th, 2009, 04:48 PM       
I almost stopped reading after the first sentence. When they pitched Onomatopeia as a villain, did the editors think it was a great idea, or was it more like "eh, whatever. We haven't done something too similar already"?
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Old Mar 17th, 2009, 06:22 PM       
I love Kevin Smith, but if I'd much rather read the Oni Press comics based on his movies, than see him take over an established character like Batman.
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Old Mar 18th, 2009, 12:58 AM       
I haven't read this, and probably won't. I just wanted to mention that as silly as Onomatopeia sounds, he actually came off as pretty cool in Smith's "Sounds of Violence", the follow up to Quiver, where he first appeared.

Not cool enough to deserve a spot as one of Batman's foes, when he has so many great ones that don't get enough appearances, but cool enough that I'm glad he isn't totally forgotten.
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Old Mar 18th, 2009, 03:40 AM       
I want to see a Longbox article about this.
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Old Mar 18th, 2009, 07:01 AM       
The art sucked, the dialogue sucked, the whole premise of the comic sucked.
You gave this one a pickle and a quarter too much Protoclown.
I'd rather reread Ultimates 3 than this dross.

Broke my a heart a little bit to write that. I'm a big Kevin Smith fan and I think
Batman is the greatest comic character ever. BUT Smith seriously cocked up here.
Poor show big man, poor show
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Old Mar 18th, 2009, 12:59 PM       
Terrible book. I did like how it had Maxie Zeus,though. Guy doesn't get enough respect.
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Old Mar 18th, 2009, 07:35 PM       
Even Kevin himself will tell you that he is only good at writing dialogue. I think the charm of it is that no one talks like that in real life.

I wanna see a future Longbox column on this. Get to it!
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Old Mar 18th, 2009, 10:37 PM       
What are you talking about? The way Kevin Smith writes dialogue is pretty much exactly the way my friends and I talk. Especially, at work.
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Old Mar 18th, 2009, 10:57 PM       
^It's also the way characters in a Drama don't talk. His style is great for his mostly laid back Comedies but fails in a Dramatic setting. I push forward Chasing Amy, Dogma, and Jersey Girl as proof.
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Old Mar 19th, 2009, 12:10 AM       
I hate to say this, being a fan of Kevin Smith's stand-up and many of his movies, but it seems like he's losing talent with each movie, comic, or project that he makes. Compare Clerks to Clerks 2. Compare his Green Arrow to this travesty. It's like he just doesn't care. Not that this is a revelation or anything...
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Old Mar 19th, 2009, 10:30 AM       
I loved the first issue.But it went downhill from there.
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Old Mar 20th, 2009, 09:52 AM       
poor, poor Kevin Smith
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Old Mar 20th, 2009, 09:13 PM       
Blam!
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Old Mar 21st, 2009, 11:10 PM       
I second the 'Blam!'
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Old Apr 17th, 2010, 03:04 AM       
On Smith's site, before he made Cacophony, he insinuated via covers that he was going for the early 80s style Joker. Personally, this Joker reminds me of the Dennis O'Neil Joker from the old Azrael series, the Bill Willingham Joker from Salvation Run, the Dixon/Nolan Joker from Devil's Advocate, The Legends of the Dark Knight series Joker, etc.

The biggest mess-ups were Joker with facial hair (the man simply does not grow the stuff) & his saying he'd love to see Batman dead.

But goddamn if his Joker isn't the funniest Joker ever written. & the gay humor is something I've always welcomed from the Joker. He's not the only one who's done it.

I'm a huge Kevin Smith fan & the leader of a Joker fanclub, & rated BC as the best Joker story of 2009.
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