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Old Jul 15th, 2011, 11:55 PM       
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Now, here's an example of a non subjective statement
"Game x is a good game, it is good because 95% of people who have played it have liked it"
See that? There's numbers supporting a statement.
95% is a big number but it's still just a bunch of opinions, which are by definition subjective. Even if 100% thought well of lttp I'm not sure even that would qualify it as being objectively good. I don't think what makes a game "good" is defined well enough that you can apply it and then prove it objectively true.

Anyways, we all know the game is popular (you can probably prove that as an objective fact) but that doesn't mean it's flawless. I say, objectively, that I did not like lttp and I also say, objectively, that I value my own opinion over the opinion of 95% of some hypothetical demographic.
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Old Jul 16th, 2011, 06:22 AM       
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95% is a big number but it's still just a bunch of opinions, which are by definition subjective. Even if 100% thought well of lttp I'm not sure even that would qualify it as being objectively good. I don't think what makes a game "good" is defined well enough that you can apply it and then prove it objectively true.

Anyways, we all know the game is popular (you can probably prove that as an objective fact) but that doesn't mean it's flawless. I say, objectively, that I did not like lttp and I also say, objectively, that I value my own opinion over the opinion of 95% of some hypothetical demographic.
Because last I checked, video games are a business. The people who make them are in it to make money. That majority of the player base like the game, spend their money, make a huge profit, so the game becomes, say it with me now, a S U C C E S S.

All GW has given us is a list of "I don't like x's" but that is not tangible evidence that a game is bad, it is just a series of opinions from someone that wants to dislike. Key word there, 'wants'.

I find people who want to dislike something just to be 'different' to be hilarious. I also find them to be somewhat cowardly and hypocritical. If you want to be different, go all the freaking way. Don't just hate things everyone loves, declare you love things everyone hates. Join the neo nazis, watch Sandra Prill videos, buy a copy of Ishtar, get the game ET for Atari 2600 and play it nonstop. Of course none of them do, so in the end their opinions are laughable, empty, and meaningless because half measures get you nowhere.

While we are at it, the internet is pretty popular, aren't you being a conformist by using it?
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Old Jul 16th, 2011, 09:12 AM       
I played it when I was little too and it wasn't noticeably worse than any of my other Atari games. Of course, it certainly was no Burgertime

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buy a copy of Ishtar
I heard Ishtar was okay.
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Old Jul 16th, 2011, 01:25 PM       
Gary Larson was the probably the only person to ever admit that, and I think he was just feeling guilty about dissing a movie he never saw
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