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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 02:19 PM        Me + army = free college?
Yea or nay guys, should I join the army and get free tuition at college?
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 02:28 PM       
The GI bill, or the free army tuition, covers every branch of the military, not just the Army. The Army is for suckas who got a kid at 18 with a 14 year old gf.

Look into the Coast Guard's PR, or the Air Force, or something, anything but the Army.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 02:30 PM       
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 03:03 PM       
I already made this thread, stupid.

I decided that the money isn't worth the four (or however many years you want free tuition) years you'll have to serve after college waking up early and working to fight a war you don't care about.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 03:07 PM       
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 03:09 PM       
The army does offer the GI bill, but if you join you will chances are get sent ovetr seas like someone said. However, pick an CMOS in which it is imporant you stay at home. For instance, join the Navy and become a submarines mate. They went send you over with a CMOS like that.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 03:13 PM       
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 03:14 PM       
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The GI bill, or the free army tuition, covers every branch of the military, not just the Army. The Army is for suckas who got a kid at 18 with a 14 year old gf. Sad

Look into the Coast Guard's PR, or the Air Force, or something, anything but the Army.
By "army" I meant the military in general.
If I decide to go through with this, I'll probably join the marines. The navy would be cool, but I'm not too thrilled about the possibility of sinking in a sub that's already 300 feet under water. that wouldn't be good.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 03:16 PM       
marines are even worse then the army they are the first ones in and last ones out basically
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 03:17 PM       
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 03:42 PM       
Having student loans is way more patriotic than joining the military
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 04:02 PM       
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Exactly. Interest keeps the economy running!
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 04:50 PM       
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 05:11 PM       
Also, the GI bill only applies to education after your military service.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 05:35 PM       
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Also, the GI bill only applies to education after your military service.
Incorrect.

You can go to school while you're in the service and it won't cost you a dime. I know that the Navy will pay for 75% of school via Tuition Assistance, and you can use your MGIB to cover the other 25%. There are certain rules and restrictions, but for the most part it's a good deal. And whatever you have left over you keep. As long as you're enrolled in school, they'll keep sending you the checks. They don't care how you spend it. And you get college credits for military service. I've got 53 credits on my transcript and I've never been to college.

Regardless of what branch of service you join, you take the risk of being deployed overseas. It doesn't matter if you think this is your war or not. You think everyone in the military joined because they're patriots? Fuck that. It's all about the bennies.

Unless the person you're speaking with is a veteran, don't listen to a word they say. People like "adept_ninja" spew shit they heard from someone else. "MY COUSIN IN THE MARINES AND HIS HEAD EXPLODED IN KABUL!" Shut up you ignorant bitch. Don't interrupt the adults.

As far as being on a submarine is concerned, that's a community you have to request to join. They won't throw you on one against your will. There are special schools and in-depth training you have to complete. And if you are indeed a woman, you don't even have that option. Our submarine service isn't integrated.

Your decision all depends on what kind of person you are. If you're like me, a well-centered cynic, you'll do fine. You see the bullshit for what it is and you don't let it define who you are. Only idiots truly relinquish their independence. Smart people manage to do just fine in the military.



The Army has the lowest intellectual standards. That means the odds of you being surrounded by idiots are much higher. This also means if you're smart, you'll have an easier time advancing in rank.

The Marines are waay too gung-ho for me. They're the most brainwashed out of all the branches, but they're probably the most elite. And they're a pretty tight group of people.

The Air Force has it made, but again, your chances of being sent overseas are as great as the previous two branches. They have the most money, the nicest facilities, and the least amount of pride. If I didn't choose Navy, I would have gone Air Force. They are the branch everyone else makes fun of.

The Navy. Join and there's a 60% chance you'll end up on a ship. Probably offers the most technologically advanced training out of all the branches. Going through some serious realignment which is causing a few instabilities.

But none of that really matters if all you want is college money. Do your time and get out. But just an FYI, that's the same reason everyone else joined, and they're staying in because of job security.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 05:49 PM       
Also consider that the Air Force and Army offer a contract for the MOS (military occupational specialty) to which you wish to enlist. The Marines and Navy, to my most recent knowledge, do not. They base assignments on aptitude tests and put you where they think that you're best qualified. I would also like to contend that their are a lot of Marines that didn't really exceed my Army counterparts in intelligence. There are just a lot less of them so it's less noticeable.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 05:50 PM       
Yes, the GI bill gives you a set amount of money for college after your tour of duty is over, depending on how many years you served and other criteria. You can go to college before that and they'll pay for that also.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 06:21 PM       
You guys are full of half-truths and partial information.

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Also consider that the Air Force and Army offer a contract for the MOS
All branches do. The Navy does as well. But if you join and you don't know what you want to do, they'll just throw you where they want you. You are in control of your destiny before you join. Unless you're a moron, in which case your job options will be limited regardless of branch.

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Yes, the GI bill gives you a set amount of money for college after your tour of duty is over, depending on how many years you served and other criteria. You can go to college before that and they'll pay for that also.
It's obvious you know a little bit about what you're talking about, but to someone like me, it's even more obvious you don't know enough.

My suggestion is to you GuitarWoman is to do the research. Talk to recruiters. Ask them as many questions as you can. Usually they're on the level. Hell, I'll be on the level w/ you. Ask me whatever you want.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 06:58 PM       
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The Army has the lowest intellectual standards. That means the odds of you being surrounded by idiots are much higher. This also means if you're smart, you'll have an easier time advancing in rank.
Not always. It is often the biggest suck-ups who advance in rank.
Oh, and with the army, it will be like returning to middleschool. Sex jokes like waking up with a wang in your ear is all the rage. Might not be as bad for the females...

The Marines are also the last to get equipment, except for the new camo gear. They had the honor of field testing them. :/

I am thinking about the Navy, within the PR/Photography section.
Either that, or a patrol boat within the Coast Guard.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 07:18 PM       
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You guys are full of half-truths and partial information.

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Also consider that the Air Force and Army offer a contract for the MOS
All branches do. The Navy does as well. But if you join and you don't know what you want to do, they'll just throw you where they want you. You are in control of your destiny before you join. Unless you're a moron, in which case your job options will be limited regardless of branch.
They didn't at the time that I was in and, as I admitted, my data might not have been current. I had navy friends whom I knew from home, at THAT time, who told me that that was the case.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 08:00 PM       
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The Army has the lowest intellectual standards. That means the odds of you being surrounded by idiots are much higher. This also means if you're smart, you'll have an easier time advancing in rank.
Not always. It is often the biggest suck-ups who advance in rank.
Oh, and with the army, it will be like returning to middleschool. Sex jokes like waking up with a wang in your ear is all the rage. Might not be as bad for the females...
For women it's worse

EDIT: no sexual pranks but really evil stuff. Stuff so evil it hurts to talk about.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 08:16 PM       
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 08:21 PM       
I think the bottom line is this: if you think that it would suck to have to possibly go somewhere and fight a war, do not join the military. Even if it means free/cheap education.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 08:44 PM       
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The NavyProbably offers the most technologically advanced training out of all the branches.
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 08:45 PM       
I like the part where the Navy Propagandist - sorry - P.R. guy said he'd be on the level with the kid!
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