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Old Jan 8th, 2008, 02:11 PM        Weekly Music Review: Year Zero
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Old Jan 8th, 2008, 02:48 PM       
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Old Jan 8th, 2008, 06:17 PM       
The computer rape noises on a lot of the songs annoyed me to no end.
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Old Jan 8th, 2008, 07:13 PM       
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Old Jan 8th, 2008, 08:02 PM       
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Old Jan 8th, 2008, 09:26 PM       
I just can't seem to get past Johnny Cash's cover of "Hurt".
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Old Jan 9th, 2008, 12:17 AM       
I found this to be one of the better albums.
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Old Jan 9th, 2008, 01:53 AM       
I have been a Nine Inch Nails fan since I was, well... Nine years old. I am now 27. I still love all that Trent creates. If he put out an album with him humming along to a drum machine I would most likely buy it, praise it and see him do it live on tour. But with all that said, and with Nine Inch Nails still being my all time favorite band, I think he get's too much credit on this album for a sound that a few other amazing artist's already beat him to. Listen to any Richard D. James project... Aphex Twin or AFX or Polygon Window and you have the majority of how "Year Zero" sounds. Yes, the idea is fresh and the lyrics are amazing and it's nice to see the old Rez writing from different character perspectives but as far as sound... the album should have a huge sticker in the back saying.. "Thanks to Richard D. James for teaching me how to do this cool shit." Or, better yet... Give Atticus Ross (A very kick ass producer, mixer and musician in his own right, Check out "12 Rounds" or his kick ass side project "Error" for more on Atticus.. a bit more credit for bringing the Nails music to the next level instead of keeping it in the dirty faded industrial sound that carried "Broken", "The Downward Spiral" and a good half of "The Fragile". I still agree that "Year Zero" is damn good stuff, I just expect a musical genius like Trent Reznor to not just step it up but to kick the damn door down.
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Old Jan 9th, 2008, 08:24 AM       
Not my favorite NIN album, but still pretty good. The song "The Good Soldier" is really fantastic but overall I would prefer to listen to an older album or even With Teeth.
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Old Jan 9th, 2008, 09:12 AM       
When i read this review, i just had to listen "Get down make love", NIN cover of Queen song of the same name.
But anyway, this album is my personal favorite of all NIN albums. It's the only one i can listen over and over again, without skipping any of the songs. Best songs (in my opinion) are: Survivalism, Vessel, Capitol G, Meet your master, The great destroyer and Zero-sum.
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Old Jan 9th, 2008, 03:02 PM       
Year Zero is one of Trent's weaker albums, in my opinion. Even though With Teeth was souless, it had catchy tunes that stuck with you and made you want to replay them. I gave Year Zero a few chances and there were none of those hooks that made me want to keep listening. Just like Al from Ministry, he was a better artist when he was all messed up.
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Old Jan 9th, 2008, 03:07 PM       
While I think this album is a big improvement over With Teeth I still don't listen to it all that often. I just don't think he'll ever be able to top what he accomplished with The Fragile. That album, along with the accompanying live tour, was just about as good as it gets.
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Old Jan 9th, 2008, 03:08 PM       
Not a huge NIN fan, honestly. I enjoyed Johnny's cover of Hurt, simply because the song fitted the man. I'll give this a listen unless someone suggests a better album to get started on. By the by, macrodeath, your avatar always freaks me out. Since I saw Audition I've been convinced an asian girl was the monster in my closet, rather than a vegan chef.
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Old Jan 9th, 2008, 05:47 PM       
Oh my God please spare me. Trent Reznor going political is the equivalent of one of those dudes from Queer Eye for the Straight guy swinging his arms cyclically and screaming "Unnghh unnnghh stop it!". There are not enough explitives in the English language to accurately describe how bad this album or any of their previous work sucks suffice to say if you want to try then hit the most prominent bone on your foot with a ball pien hammer.

What's worse is people have drank enough bleach to call this pussy a genius. A fucking genius! Jimmi Hendrix was a genius. Bach was a genius. Robert Plant was a genius. Chuck D was a genius. Reznor was just a guy that got some black nail polish, cried over some old, sped up Cure samples and somehow inspired a legion of whiny teenagers to dress like gay, zombie magicians. It's all such an incoherant mess and Reznor can't even sing to boot! It's like Death metal for weak people. And as juvenile, insipid, rediculous and flat out retarded as Death metal is I'd still take the growling incontinent ramblings of some band named after a gross biological mishap then NiN's latest offering of childish whining.

Maybe I'm just not relating to the material. Maybe NiN's not my cup of tea because I'm not a teenage virgin with a book full of poetry and maybe I don't get it because my biggest problem is a huge penis that I don't know what to do with. No screw that, my Grandmother would hear this album and still do the jerk off pantimime motion. Years and years of snivelling and NOW Reznor wants to try doing something a little self absorbed? Public enemy this guy ain't. Seriously if anyone knew a guy like this they'd start punching them in the head until they stopped crying and bought back their balls from wherever they pawned them from. But if he's bawling over a drum machine people lap it up. Seriously, Reznor should just give up and stick to what he knows best: guyliner, public humliation and sucking at sports.
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Old Jan 9th, 2008, 11:38 PM       
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Old Jan 10th, 2008, 12:04 AM       
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Old Jan 10th, 2008, 12:46 AM       
i love how people got out of their way just to tell everyone that they hate a band or an artist
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Old Jan 10th, 2008, 02:46 PM       
I love how wussies go out of their way to make a point of sounding condesending when people express their viewpoint in a manner of their choosing.

Hey Prot! Normally I dig some of the stuff you talk about but if you're going to do album reviews why not review the actual good ones? There's an entire back catalog of Janis Joplin, BB King and Cab Calloway records out there to write about. If this NiN garbage netted a four and a half I'd love to see what kind of rating something like Jimmi Hendrix' Are you Experienced? or Pantera's Vulgar Display of Power would net. Seriously, there's a world of jazz and blues albums out there that you could expose people too. Hell even old school soul and R&B music. Why this whiny shit? Reznor needs to have his underwear yanked up his ass and stuffed in his locker with the rest of his gothic ilk.
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Old Jan 10th, 2008, 03:46 PM       
Ah yes, damn fine production on this disc too. Not all the songs are given me a spark like the Fragile did, but the well chosen Survivalism as first single gets me pumped everytime I hear it. Very satisfying disc indeed.
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I love how wussies go out of their way to make a point of sounding condesending when people express their viewpoint in a manner of their choosing.

Hey Prot! Normally I dig some of the stuff you talk about but if you're going to do album reviews why not review the actual good ones? There's an entire back catalog of Janis Joplin, BB King and Cab Calloway records out there to write about. If this NiN garbage netted a four and a half I'd love to see what kind of rating something like Jimmi Hendrix' Are you Experienced? or Pantera's Vulgar Display of Power would net. Seriously, there's a world of jazz and blues albums out there that you could expose people too. Hell even old school soul and R&B music. Why this whiny shit? Reznor needs to have his underwear yanked up his ass and stuffed in his locker with the rest of his gothic ilk.
Woah dude, he's just reviewing an album he likes
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Old Jan 10th, 2008, 06:20 PM       
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Hey Prot! Normally I dig some of the stuff you talk about but if you're going to do album reviews why not review the actual good ones? There's an entire back catalog of Janis Joplin, BB King and Cab Calloway records out there to write about. If this NiN garbage netted a four and a half I'd love to see what kind of rating something like Jimmi Hendrix' Are you Experienced? or Pantera's Vulgar Display of Power would net. Seriously, there's a world of jazz and blues albums out there that you could expose people too. Hell even old school soul and R&B music. Why this whiny shit? Reznor needs to have his underwear yanked up his ass and stuffed in his locker with the rest of his gothic ilk.
I reviewed this album because I happen to think it is a good one. I enjoy it. It makes my ears happy. I'm well aware that Trent Reznor is a whiny bitch, which I even mentioned in my review.

By all means, you're fully entitled to share your opinion here, and I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with me on every review. Hell, I'm even interested in seeing what the people who disagree with me have to say.

But keep in mind this is only my first album review. Sooner or later I'm bound to get around to something that you agree with. And there'll probably be a lot that you don't.

Music is the one section of "Weeklies" that's the most subjective, because it tends to get inside you in ways that other art doesn't necessarily do, so I imagine it's going to cause the most debating in the comment threads.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and at least elaborating on them rather than just contributing nothing by saying "NIN SUKS!!"

And I'm actually fairly ignorant about the work of Janis Joplin, BB King, and Cab Calloway, so you won't be seeing me reviewing them here anytime soon, I'm afraid.
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Old Jan 10th, 2008, 07:08 PM       
Well it is i-mockery. I figured why not do a little mocking as opposed to NiN sucks! That's just glorified bathroom grafitti.
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Old Jan 11th, 2008, 02:25 AM       
D-MoN, I like how you're basically equating Reznor's skills with that of some bubblegum pop princess. Clearly you're too fixated on some of his earlier, whiny lyrics and his Hot Topic dwelling fans rather than the quality of the music itself. You're quickly dismissing him as somebody who "just pushes buttons on a drum machine" when he's not putting on eyeliner, when in fact, there's a lot more that goes into creating that music and you clearly just don't get it.

As for Janis Joplin, unlike Protoclown, I've heard a veritable shit-ton of her music as a result of riding to school every day with a bunch of hippies when I was younger. I'd gladly give Janis that Mercedes Benz she always wanted. Just have her stand in the middle of the street so I can run her ass down with it to forever rid those wretched vocals from my memory.

Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz?
I was forced to listened to Janis, now it's time for revenge!

Wanted to listen to real music, no help from my hippie friends,
So Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz?
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Old Jan 13th, 2008, 08:38 AM       
Hell yes! Run that bitch down...

And as far as what our "Classic rock lovin', can't stand all those "wussies' who hate real music and dislike the stuff they rarely even play on the classic rock station" D-Mon. It's nice to see you "dehumanize" a groups fans all due to your dislike for the material of the band and of course the fans so called fashion sense (though I know a whole slew of us that do not A) wear nail polish and "Gothic" clothing and B) don't cry themselves to sleep every night... except me, but I do so for a whole different reason... I am married.) And it's rad to see you have so much dislike only for the more "Sensitive" fan's as the ones who use the band as an outlet or express themselves through poetry and (although too much for me) gothic dress... Damn dude... You know what? your right! We should just throw all those Trent Reznor fans in a big old camp where they could like... "concentrate" on their taste in crappy music, and at some point march them right into the showers and just be rid of the whole lot of em'."

Oh and you may not think the man is a musical genius but let me give you these few tidbits to wrap your head around:

1. Oliver Stone heard his stuff and had to work with him, handing over what had been at the time the entire soundtrack duties for one of the most controversial film's he had done in years... "Natural Born Killers".

2. David Lynch, Felt same way about working with "No Talent Reznor" and handed over soundtrack duties for "Lost Highway".

3. ID Entertainment stepped up gaming ambiance and music when they collaborated with Reznor and had him design the entire soundscape to the original and very spooky (due mostly to the music) "Quake".

4. Everyone who has worked with him in some for or another has had quite the musical background in their own right...
David Bowie (Whose career was re-vitalized by touring with the Nails), Peter Murphy of Bauhaus fame, Aphex Twin, Ice Cube, Megadeath, Johnny Cash (Who takes the classic's of Joplin, Calloway and BB King and say's "Fuck you I am the man in black"), Marilyn Manson, Pop Will Eat Itself (And their former lead singer "Clint Mansell" whom if you look him up has done some extremely gratifying work on many decent soundtracks.), Puff Daddy, Notorious B.I.G. and Busta Rhymes, and before her death Aaliyah (Whom they were collaborating on doing a whole album together), Upcoming Political Hip-hop freestylist Saul Williams, David Bowie compared NIN's impact to that of The Velvet Underground.In 1997, Reznor appeared in Time magazine's list of the year's most influential people, and Spin magazine described him as "the most vital artist in music." Bob Ezrin, producer for Pink Floyd, Kiss, Alice Cooper, and Peter Gabriel, described Reznor in 2007 as a "true visionary" and advised aspiring artists to take note of his no-compromise attitude. The Year Zero concept has included a remix album, an alternate reality game, and a potential television or film project. Just to name a few...

And here is a bonus short from Rolling Stone.com

We wondered what repercussions Radiohead’s In Rainbows independently released, pay-what-you-want maneuver would have on the record industry. Let this serve as Exhibit A: After years of disagreeing and downright bad-mouthing his record label, Nine Inch Nails’ Trent Reznor has finally been cut free contractually from Universal Music Group, allowing him to reach his avid fanbase as an artistic free agent. Recently, Reznor attacked how his record label boosted the price on Year Zero CDs in the foreign market, telling fans during a concert to just download his music illegally, a move that likely foreshadowed the fallout. Reznor posted on the official NIN blog today that after eighteen years of being signed to a label, it gives him “great pleasure to be able to finally have a direct relationship with the audience as I see fit.” Reznor also told fans to “look for some announcements in the near future regarding 2008.” Will we see the sequel to Year Zero (and the resurrection of its alternate reality game?) The real question now is, who will be the next artist to follow Thom Yorke and Trent Reznor down this new, unbeaten path?

So that's all I got to say...

So now I am gonna go take a bath in the dark with a few lit candles while applying some black nail polish, get dressed in my favorite "Goth" outfit and write some depressing poetry... all while listening to Cab Calloway of course.
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