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Pentegarn · #1

You are so full of shit Coolie that manure gatherers want to slob your knob

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Originally Posted by Coolie

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Researchers are intensifying their scrutiny of fluoride, which is added to most public water systems in the U.S. Some recent studies suggest that overconsumption of fluoride can raise the risks of disorders affecting teeth, bones, the brain and the thyroid gland.
A 2006 report by a committee of the National Research Council recommended that the federal government lower its current limit for fluoride in drinking water because of health risks to both children and adults.

Define overconsumption if you could.

Ranny at least mentions 5 grams, and what it would take to get there. You have said nada to that though. Why is that? Probably because it casts a harsh light on your weird agenda.

Speaking of...

Why the fuck are you crusading(badly I might add), on a comedy forum, against sodium fluoride? Could you show us on the doll where sodium fluoride touched you? More to the point, why after decades of drinking tap water and brushing my teeth with Colgate, to zero adverse effects, would I even bother doing anything your delusional ass says?

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Originally Posted by The Colinateher

The board rules are corrupt and selectively enforced against certain people who do not share the herd mentality. This is an accepted reality

You spelled "Coolie is a whiny bitch who cries about rules when a debate doesn't go his way." wrong.

http://www.vitamins-nutrition.org/vi.../fluoride.html

The above link says that yes, in large quantities it can be poisonous. But so can water in and of itself (water intoxication anyone?)

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Originally Posted by coolbraincellsdiefirst

Calcium Fluoride = Good

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Originally Posted by linked article above

Both calcium and magnesium form insoluble complexes with fluoride and are capable of significantly decreasing fluoride absorption when present in the same meal.

In other words, they decrease the fluoride absorption which decreases the dental benefit. Making your statement more like:

Calcium Fluoride = pointless in this discussion

Finally

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Originally Posted by Pentegarn

But for the love of God, at least be consistent. If your stance is that it is to be avoided if it can ever be poisonous (as you seem to be arguing) then apply it to everything.

No water

No breathing

No pretty much anything

I see you have failed to listen to my advice. You have not been consistent. You are still posting, therefore you are still breathing.

Therefore, you sir, are a hypocrite

RaNkeri · #2

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Originally Posted by Pentegarn

I see you have failed to listen to my advice.

Well, he has received a lot of advices, guess he just forgot yours

RaNkeri · #3

And coolsie over here seems to fail to grasp the simple issue of basic chemistry that is called solubility of chemical compounds.

You seem to think that when fluoride is paired with calcium everything's a-ok, but when fluoride is paired with sodium it magically turns into SUPR POISON meant to destroy the mankind

TheCoolinator · #4

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Originally Posted by RaNkeri

And coolsie over here seems to fail to grasp the simple issue of basic chemistry that is called solubility of chemical compounds.

You seem to think that when fluoride is paired with calcium everything's a-ok, but when fluoride is paired with sodium it magically turns into SUPR POISON meant to destroy the mankind

1. If you dissolve arsenic in water you get water with arsenic in it. There go if you drink that water you will be also drinking the arsenic in it. Please read my last post on the chronic toxicity on fluoride consumption and the negative effect it has on the human body. Speaking of Sodium Fluoride of course.

2. They are two different chemicals. Read the literature. One is synthetic and the other is naturally occurring.

Calcium Fluoride = Good

Sodium Fluoride = Bad

This is well known science for the last century.

Colonel Flagg · #5

IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!

(God I hope this works)

TheCoolinator · #6

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Originally Posted by Dr. Boogie

Are doctors and scientists really out to poison as many people as they can?

Certain doctors and scientists are given the conclusions before the experimentation even begins. They go where the funding is. We have to make our own decisions. If all the information points to something being harmful to you then it may just be harmful to you.

Look at those dictionary definitions again.

Colonel Flagg · #7

Certain weak-minded individuals hear bleating about a cause-du-jour, or find videos on YouTube or Google and begin parroting its rhetoric like it was the Gospel according to St. Matthew.

I prefer to do my own experimentation and follow my own path, using data that I've collected myself, thank you. You might try to do the same.

Supafly345 · #8

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Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg

I prefer to do my own experimentation and follow my own path, using data that I've collected myself, thank you. You might try to do the same.

What

RaNkeri · #9

You could atleast read those researches, instead of just picking them out because you agree with the titles.

Every research was done by using water with excessive/elevated fluoride concentrations. None of us has claimed that fluoride wouldn't be harmful when taken excessively.

Also the studies lacked further detail and stated that further research is required.

Supafly345 · #10

Oh christ, he now has conspiracy theories about the forum. I think he knows he's totally crashed in blazing failure and has resorted to simple trolling.

But all he's doing is making everyone else feel smart in comparison by his easily debunkable bullshit. AND OUR EGOS ARE TOO BIG ALREADY.

Pentegarn · #11

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Originally Posted by Supafly345

AND OUR EGOS ARE TOO BIG ALREADY.

YOU FORGOT TO MENTION OUR ENORMOUS COCKS

Colonel Flagg · #12

^^^ That's one big cock.

kahljorn · #13

:O

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Can Fluoride Cause Harm?
As with other compounds, fluoride is safe and effective when used properly, but it can be hazardous at high doses. All water-fluoridation systems are checked daily to maintain safe fluoride levels. Parents should supervise the use of all fluoride products in the home.
Fluoride-supplement tablets should be stored safely away from young children. These supplements are taken each day in small quantities, ranging from 0.25 to 1 milligram per day based on the child's age and amount of fluoride in the water. Dentists limit the amount of tablets they prescribe at one time because the toxic dose of fluoride for a 2-year-old child weighing 22 pounds is 320 milligrams. To avoid any chance of overdose, do not stock up on fluoride tablets. If you have any questions regarding fluoride risks, talk to your dentist or physician.
Toxic fluoride doses are based on weight, and a toxic dose of fluoride for an 8-year-old child weighing 45 pounds is 655 milligrams. In comparison, an 8-ounce glass of water fluoridated to 1 part per million contains 0.25 milligrams of fluoride. Since these fluoride products are used in such small amounts, it is very difficult to receive toxic doses when using fluoride products at home.

TheCoolinator · #14

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Originally Posted by kahljorn

:O

Isn't this quote against forum rules?

Dimnos · #15

Because its better than anything currently being discussed in this thread.

Zhukov · #16

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a toxic dose of fluoride for an 8-year-old child weighing 45 pounds is 655 milligrams. In comparison, an 8-ounce glass of water fluoridated to 1 part per million contains 0.25 milligrams of fluoride.

Yes, but that means an eight year old child only has to ingest 2620 glasses of water at once. Easily achievable on a hot day, I tell you what.

Dimnos · #17

From the other thread but in an effort to contain it to this one...

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Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg

(Calcium fluoride will also provide this, and does in places like Scandinavia and Texas. That's why they don't fluoridate there.)

Actually we do fluoridate here in Texas, at least in the DFW area. However its averaged to be 0.5 ppm.

TheCoolinator · #18

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Originally Posted by Dimnos

F

Actually we do fluoridate here in Texas, at least in the DFW area. However its averaged to be 0.5 ppm.

That's good. Enjoy it. You'll be healthier.

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In a letter published in the Cumberland Times-News, Miltenberger notes that he first became aware of the issue in an engineering report for the city of Boulder, Colo. The report noted that the fluoridation chemicals used for the city's water had been evaluated, and were found to contain lead levels of 40 milligrams per bag and arsenic levels of 50 milligrams per bag. The bags were being imported from China under no regulatory monitoring of acid or salt content.

http://www.naturalnews.com/029477_fluoride_China.html

Double hit.

Sodium fluoride (Carcinogen / Developmental harm / mutagen / Neurotoxin ) AND Heavy metals mixed in (Carcinogen / Developmental harm / mutagen / Neurotoxin)

Colonel Flagg · #19

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Originally Posted by Dimnos

Actually we do fluoridate here in Texas, at least in the DFW area. However its averaged to be 0.5 ppm.

In my haste, I forgot for a second that Texas is a beeeeg place. I need to go back to the history books (not to mention geology) to figure out where the highest concentrations of fluorite are in the Big T.

Esuohlim · #20

WEBSITES ARE NEVER A CREDIBLE SOURCE. EVER. Unless they are real scientific studies published in real scientific journals whose online versions have real published hard copy versions, they are not credible. ESPECIALLY not from a .com website riddled with absolute junk-science advertisements for "health" products designed solely for the purpose of scamming people.

If you were writing a college thesis on your claims you would fail automatically for seriously using a site like that as a source for your argument. Unless you can find me a real source from a real research database outlining an experiment done by real scientists using real experimental methods that actually show evidence to the fact that sodium fluoride is harmful to humans in the amounts that are actually provided to the consumer in tap water and toothpaste, you will be banned. You have until the end of Saturday, August 21st 2010.

You obviously aren't smart enough for this argument if you don't know the difference between actual credibility and complete bullshit. Your tendency to ignore posts and refusal to backup your arguments with legitimate sources is bordering on trolling. We've been going in circles for months, and I'm getting sick of it. Follow through or you're done.

Pentegarn · #21

At first I was bummed out by this but....

My girlfriend just reminded me that coumadin contains warfarin, which is also used for rat poison.

Coolie's stance is if it is poisonous in large amounts it is always poisonous and we should ban its use

Coumadin saved my girlfriend from dying 2 years ago, if Coolie had his way, she would be dead.

Fuck you Coolie! I now can't wait for Thrillho to ban your ass!. You were a fun forum toy, but I am reminded how nutjobs like you can be a threat to others, and I too am sick of you.

Your stupidity directed at me or at this forum is one thing, but when how you think becomes a threat to those I love, the gloves come off.

Colonel Flagg · #22

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Originally Posted by Pentegarn

Coumadin saved my girlfriend from dying 2 years ago, if Coolie had his way, she would be dead.

Glad your GF is OK, Pent.

Zhukov · #23

Ah well, I think there were ome good, funny comments generated at Coolie's expense, but I guess everyone is sick of him. Bye Cools, you will never not spout garbage and find something credible, so I guess you may as well call this forum CORRUPT and slink off before you get banned, and just pretend that you COULD find sources BUT WHAT'S THE POINT IN SHOWING US SHEEP HOW THE WORLD ACTUALLY RUNS?