zionist jews declared war on nazi germany prior to ww2?

[Abcdxxxx]

Maybe if you use Judanhate goggles.

The actual article's content mentions Germany baiting Jews with "Hitlers onslaught against Jews" who were "terrorised by Hitlerite anti-semitism", etc. etc.


p.s. Derrida, there is no such thing as a religious Jew against Zionism. One can not separate a belief from a Jewish homeland, from Judaism, it's impossible as it's a core belief.

[derrida]

Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx

Maybe if you use Judanhate goggles.

The actual article's content mentions Germany baiting Jews with "Hitlers onslaught against Jews" who were "terrorised by Hitlerite anti-semitism", etc. etc.


p.s. Derrida, there is no such thing as a religious Jew against Zionism. One can not separate a belief from a Jewish homeland, from Judaism, it's impossible as it's a core belief.

We don't disagree on your first point, but that doesn't invalidate the argument, which I'm not arguing for or against, just trying to clarify what I think geggy was clumsily trying to express.

As for your second point, I would believe you, but that's the exact inverse of what groups like Naturei Karta etc. say, so you might want to provide links, and I'm pretty sure that Orthodox Jews qualify as "the religious kind," so on the face of it it seems like a silly assertion.

[Abcdxxxx]

Originally Posted by derrida

As for your second point, I would believe you, but that's the exact inverse of what groups like Naturei Karta etc. say, so you might want to provide links, and I'm pretty sure that Orthodox Jews qualify as "the religious kind," so on the face of it it seems like a silly assertion.

Naturei Karta are a bunch of nuts who have been denounced by leaders of probably every Jewish Denomination, and sect you can name. Even the Satmars who oppose Israel, believe in the creation of a Jewish State at some point, and are by definition Zionists. All practicing Jews who worship the Torah and study the Talmud share beliefs with the modern movement now called Zionism.