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Old Jul 15th, 2009, 10:33 AM        WE FIGHT FOR FREEDOM! but have none.
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A Pentagon-commissioned report urges the Defense Department to ban smoking in the military, even by combat troops in battle zones, a proposal that quickly ignited a controversy among service members.
Words can not express how much BULL SHIT this is.
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Old Jul 15th, 2009, 02:08 PM       
Well, it would make for better soldiers.
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Old Jul 15th, 2009, 02:40 PM       
So it's not shrapnel or gunfire that's killing our soldiers, it's been that damn secondhand smoke the whole time?
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Old Jul 15th, 2009, 02:44 PM       
Fuck that shit, yo.

It's 1620 somewhere.
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Old Jul 15th, 2009, 02:54 PM       
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Fuck that shit, yo.

It's 1620 somewhere.
In the Afghani opium fields its always 1620.
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Old Jul 15th, 2009, 03:05 PM       
If soldiers don't smoke, their lung capacity won't be severely decreased by tar. I'm really suprised the military hasn't done this earlier. If you signed up for the military to have rights while you are there, WELL BIG SURPRISE SON! You are the property of the united states of america and they will tell you what you can and can't do and maybe you should have stayed home with your two fathers in san francisco if you wanted to suck on fags all day long.
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Old Jul 15th, 2009, 04:08 PM       
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[...] maybe you should have stayed home with your two fathers in san francisco if you wanted to suck on fags all day long.
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Old Jul 15th, 2009, 08:58 PM       
if they're going to do that can they atleast be logical and lower the drinking age to 18 or raise enlistment age to 21?
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Old Jul 15th, 2009, 09:00 PM       
Who wants soldiers that are past manipulation and have bad livers? Not I.
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Old Jul 15th, 2009, 09:01 PM       
they should ban soldiers from drinking, too. IT IS NOT A PARTY ZONE, COLLEGE AGE KIDS
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Old Jul 17th, 2009, 04:53 AM       
There was a TV show here for a while called The Hollowmen, it was a comedy about some high ranking government type guys who screwed things up and generally had a laugh yada yada yada. Anyway, these guys were tasked to make a new army recruitment advertisment to appeal to teenagers nowadays, and they basically came up with an ad showing exactly what military life was NOT like, i.e young people partying and having fun, drinking, dancing and spending time with friends of both sexes. It was funny because it was a total lie, all the army type men hated it, but the government went ahead and put it on TV because it would suck stupid impressionable teens into the army.


Anyway, about three weeks ago we got a new Navy recruitment ad on TV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR8WMESmeoE

which is almost the same as what a satire TV show thought up.
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Old Jul 17th, 2009, 12:34 PM       
The U.S. has some misleading ads as well. Makes it look like ROTC. Like you only do the hard stuff 2 days a week.
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Old Jul 17th, 2009, 01:17 PM       
Around here, the "fresh-faced" recruits make it look like some sort of football team. I don't like these guys. I do take satisfaction in the fact that they're forbidden to drive.
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Old Jul 17th, 2009, 10:05 PM       
THE NAVY: Guns and fun!
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Old Jul 20th, 2009, 01:37 PM       
Us smokers tried to be nice. But it's never enough is it?
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Old Jul 20th, 2009, 01:43 PM       
If they are old enough to fight and die for our country they are old enough to decide for themselves if they want to smoke or not.
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Old Jul 20th, 2009, 01:54 PM       
If they joined the forces they sre not allowed to decide for themselves.
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Old Jul 20th, 2009, 03:16 PM       
'Tis true, really.

People bitch and moan all they want, but they're the ones that signed themselves up to be a meat puppet for their country to do as they see fit with 'em.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2009, 07:14 PM       
BOTH SIDES HAVE VALID POINTS, BUT ULTIMATELY SIGNING SHIT DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING UNLESS BACKED BY A COERCIVE FORCE AND EVEN THEN IT DOESNT REALLY MEAN ANYTHING ESPECIALLY IF ITS MAKING DEMANDS THAT ARE TOO HIGH TO PAY.
ALSO YOU COULD SAY AT THE TIME OF SIGNING SMOKING WAS ALLOWED SO THEY ARE JUST CHANGING THE CONTRACT STUFF I DUNNO WHO CARES.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2009, 10:54 PM       
so anyone who signed before the bill passes should be grandfathered in. good way to piss off the FNGs lol
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Old Jul 23rd, 2009, 10:57 PM       
All I know is if I was out in the field getting shot at I would lite up. Fuck em. What are they going to do? Send me home? I would be REALLY surprised if a CO would actually do much if you were caught smoking.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2009, 11:02 PM       
The army without cigs would be like the Russian navy without vodka.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2009, 11:04 PM       
Smoking while in a gunfight? You might as well wear a target and jump up and down.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2009, 11:15 PM       
Not while actually in a gun fight.
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