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Old Mar 20th, 2010, 03:56 PM        Let's Have A Tea Party!
I was in town today, with the fam, and as we walked toward the center, we saw a group of individuals hoisting placards and yelling incoherently. Cars were honking at them as they drove by. As we got closer, I was able to make out the words "Kill the Bill" and "No to Obamacare".

Right.

I wonder how many of them actually can speak coherently and accurately about the issues, or who have more than a knee-jerk interpretation of the actual bill? (aka Health care for me = Good; health care for all = bad)

I'm betting in the low single digits, and by low I mean none.

But we should all be against the bill anyway, right?
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Old Mar 20th, 2010, 04:27 PM       
I was thinking about that. What if we just free healthcare for minors?(under 18). I'm not endorsing that but just an idea.
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Old Mar 20th, 2010, 04:32 PM       
I hope the Tea Baggers split off into their own party so half the crazies would leave the GOP and we could actually have the possibility of a good canididate from the right for once.
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Old Mar 20th, 2010, 04:48 PM       
Health care has become the poster child of political football. If you support it, you're a socialist. If you're against it, you're a right wingnut.
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Old Mar 20th, 2010, 04:59 PM       
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/a-f...d-of-whoppers/
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Old Mar 20th, 2010, 08:24 PM       
That article isn't nearly as long as it should be, but I should still visit factcheck more often.
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Old Mar 20th, 2010, 11:53 PM       
I saw an episode of The Daily Show recently where they showed some footage of some bloke likening the struggle against health care to the 'Velvet Revolution' in Czechoslovakia.

They then had a skit where someone listed how they were similar, and what the brave Czechoslovaks were fighting for, including; dissolution of the one party state, free and democratic elections, free healthcare, end to censorship, the right to strike...

Wait, what?
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Old Mar 21st, 2010, 05:51 AM       
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I was thinking about that. What if we just free healthcare for minors?(under 18). I'm not endorsing that but just an idea.
I would back that, but that's probably one of those ideas that sounds so simple, but really is.

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Old Mar 21st, 2010, 03:20 PM       
What would be great is if people wouldn't lie for political gain.

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That article isn't nearly as long as it should be, but I should still visit factcheck more often.
Agreed, and agreed.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2010, 03:43 AM       
Congrats Americans, you're no longer the only country in the civilized world without a nationalized health care
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Old Mar 22nd, 2010, 05:43 AM       
lets have a tea-h-c party :legalizeit :420 :smokeweedeveryday
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Old Mar 22nd, 2010, 06:37 AM       
So what kind of half baked, retarded step-cousin of a socialised health care do you have now? Is it actually in, or is it just the first step on a long road?

I would be making jibes at how backwards the USA is right about now, but Australia has been taking a few steps back in the progressive race recently.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2010, 07:19 AM       
I am not sure if the public option got put back into it, but if it is then it is only a small part of all the things this bill fixed.
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I would be making jibes at how backwards the USA is right about now, but [....]
No, go right ahead. What with all the homophobic, racist and otherwise hateful rhetoric espoused by the "new right" that would be perfectly accurate.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2010, 09:12 AM       
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I hope the Tea Baggers split off into their own party so half the crazies would leave the GOP and we could actually have the possibility of a good canididate from the right for once.
I highly doubt that the Republican's will ever have a good candidate again. I don't think they understand that running on platforms that demand endless wars and less good paying jobs isn't really something that people living in tent cities are willing to latch on to.

The democrats are the same but sneakier, hence why we are still in Bush's wars.

I'm guessing in the next few years people will have enough of this treadmill of futility we call the election process and start a brand new political party.

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Congrats Americans, you're no longer the only country in the civilized world without a nationalized health care
Don't pat us on the back just yet. I heard all this healthcare bill really is, is a bailout for the bankrupt insurance agencies. They are going to force people to buy products from for-profit unregulated health insurance companies using medicare's money. So you pay into it through ObamaCare and they STILL deny your claim.

Very similar to the banker bailout. They send trillions of dollars of free tax payer money into the investment banks and then those same banks STILL forclose on you. The American people are taken yet another ride on the bullshit express.

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Health care has become the poster child of political football. If you support it, you're a socialist. If you're against it, you're a right wingnut.
I'm for an optional single payer government Health care plan. Problem is that ObamaCare is just another sweet heart deal for the insurance companies who gambled on derivatives and lost. Hence why a lot of the house democrats were against it from the start but were bullied into supporting it.

There still isn't a single payer option in the bill to compete with private interests and that's the point.

I wouldn't be surprised if quite a lot of Non-Red states follow suit and passed laws against the Health Care bill just like they did regarding the Patriot Act.

The government can't force it's population to buy a product from a private for profit instituion.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2010, 09:53 AM       
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I'm guessing in the next few years people will have enough of this treadmill of futility we call the election process and start a brand new political party.
That'd be nice but I think the two party system is so ingrained in America's conscious that anything else would be considered un-American. As long as we have our NASCAR we'll be fine.
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That'd be nice but I think the two party system is so ingrained in America's conscious that anything else would be considered un-American. As long as we have our NASCAR we'll be fine.
A lot of things are called un-American now a days. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in a neo-MacCarthy universe where Communists are now called Terrorists and your "Aiding the Enemy" by speaking your mind.

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Man, I wish we had guys named Arkady Grigorovich Ourumov giving priests the sleeper.
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Man, I wish we had guys named Arkady Grigorovich Ourumov giving priests the sleeper.
I'm slightly perturbed that they left out the question mark at the end of "Is this tomorrow" but all is not lost. I think you may have invented a new WWE gimick.

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Old Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:10 AM       
Raw has other meanings as well....



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Old Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:14 AM       
I'm sure that the poster probably doesn't fuck up 'you're' and 'your' all the time, though.

I'll let you guys in on a little inside secret: When we reds take over the USA then it's going to be somewhat like that poster, only with more blood, and we'll have better uniforms.
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I'm sure that the poster probably doesn't fuck up 'you're' and 'your' all the time, though.
Your grammar complaints are emboldening the terrorists / communists. Stop being a cut and runner.
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