LET'S ARGUE ABOUT VIDEO GAMES

[Seven Force]

Oh, I know. I wasn't trying to be snarky with you or anything. :( I just don't see what the big deal is lately with those games. It's no different than hitting buttons on a controller. I hope it doesn't come out in arcades cause it'll make people look like giant tools.

[Emu]

It's a fun party game that you can at least look like less of a douche playing than, say, DDR, because the music isn't gay and you're not dancing around like a dumbass (unless you choose to, which I do)

edit: it's also easier on the fat kids

[Terror Dino]

GH3 is a lot of fun, fun which happens to increase with some friends over and alcohol, gets might competive about 3 hours into the night. And tbh i dont even take notice of the graphics to busy playing the game and not fussing over something which only idiot's really care about. Graphics dont make the game.

[executioneer]

YES THEY DO WHAT ARE YOU CRAZY

[MLE]

I played DDR today :< In Utah :< When I was away from Chojin :< On his birthday :<

[Terror Dino]

YES THEY DO WHAT ARE YOU CRAZY
I'm on I-Mockery arnt I.

[executioneer]

maybe

[Guitar Woman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUPzN7tp7bQ

:lol

[Chojin]

schimid showed that to me a couple days ago :<

that video is 10 times better if you play tf2 and have experienced some of the douchebags in need of this kind of griefing

[Guitar Woman]

The "Be Useless" lesson in the first video hits kinda close to home for me because no matter what game it is I'm always the guy with like -3 kills who runs around playing the game completely wrong and falling victim to snipers over and over again :<

Not on purpose, it's because I suck

[KuddWeazel]

GH3 is nothing compared to 2. the set list kinda sucks, but the guitar battles were a unique idea.
Halo 3 is just the other halos with new weapons. nothing to really shake a stick at.
Assassins creed is fun but repetitive. I mean, do i really have to climb 12 200 foot skyscrapers before i kill someone?
just wait for the new ninja gaiden. it will be the answer to your gaming prayers

[Spetsnaz]

GH3 is nothing compared to 2. the set list kinda sucks, but the guitar battles were a unique idea.
Halo 3 is just the other halos with new weapons. nothing to really shake a stick at.
Assassins creed is fun but repetitive. I mean, do i really have to climb 12 200 foot skyscrapers before i kill someone?
just wait for the new ninja gaiden. it will be the answer to your gaming prayers


Don't you mean the original Ninja Gaiden in 3D?

Because thats basically what the past five years of Ninja Gaiden games were. Rehashes.

[Fathom Zero]

Halo 3 throws a lot of gravy on top of the original formula. You can't improve the gameplay, but you can build bigger set pieces, add more weapons and vehicles, as well as do a lot more shit in the Forge. Granted, it is a lot of the same. But you can't improve upon it.

[WhiteRat]

The "Be Useless" lesson in the first video hits kinda close to home for me because no matter what game it is I'm always the guy with like -3 kills who runs around playing the game completely wrong and falling victim to snipers over and over again :<

Not on purpose, it's because I suck

That's exactly how I am when I play Call of Duty 4 or BF2. I'm horrible no matter how much I play I can't get better.

[Fat_Hippo]

I know what you mean. It's the exact same for me in these 2 games. Strangely enough I'm not even that bad in BF2142 while I continue to suck in those 2...:\

[Spetsnaz]

Battlefield 2 has a huge fucking learning curve when you first jump into it. Its because the only people still playing it are the ones who've been playing it for fucking years.

[Fathom Zero]

Hahaha, I just got 30 points as a spy because of people like that.

[Seven Force]

They should release an online game where you don't have to fucking grind or level up or spend huge amounts of your life on for it to be fun or worthwhile at all. Also not an FPS.

[Guitar Woman]

I've come to the realization that Mario Sunshine is better than Galaxy, and I'm ok with that.

[Chojin]

you are ridiculous

[Guitar Woman]

Sunshine is running around gigantic multipath levels with varied and fun platforming and catchy music

Galaxy is taking a linear path from one tiny planetoid to the next with terrible camera control and not much variation in what you have to do

I have my reasons >:

Mabye I'm not far enough in Galaxy yet but it feels like not only have I seen everything the game has to offer, but that I've also done it 20 times already.

[Guitar Woman]

The rock ghost boss was fucking cool, though.

[Pub Lover]

I liked Sunshine. :(

About even with 64 even :x

[Emu]

Mabye I'm not far enough in Galaxy yet but it feels like not only have I seen everything the game has to offer, but that I've also done it 20 times already.

uh

which part of "super mario" did you not understand

[Guitar Woman]

>:


Sunshine was still inventive by the time I had 70 Shines, meanwhile 25 stars into Galaxy and I'm bored enough to puke

[Chojin]

You can get 25 stars in galaxy in about 5 minutes.

Play the game before judging, homo.

[Guitar Woman]

I keep trying, but this game is like Morrowind for me in that every time I give it another chance I hate it for the exact same reason I hated it last time.







Ok, it's not nearly as shitty or boring as Morrowind, but you get the idea.

[MLE]

hey even i liked morrowind. are you broken?

[Guitar Woman]

WELCOME TO MORROWIND HERE TAKE THIS SWORD WHICH DOES NOT HIT ANYTHING 95% OF THE TIME AND WALK TO BALMORA AT A SPEED OF 2 MILES PER HOUR WHILE BEING MURDERED UNEXPECTEDLY AND HOURS AFTER YOU'VE SAVED WHICH WILL CAUSE YOU TO HAVE TO RE-TRAVEL THE SAME BORING COUNTRYSIDE AFTER WHICH THE STORY WILL NOT BE EXPLAINED TO YOU UNTIL YOU GO ON A MUNDANE ITEM HUNT THROUGH BORING DWARF RUINS

[Guitar Woman]

I must have re-installed that game 4 times. It's the slowest and most boring piece of shit ever and I don't get why anyone likes it.

Then again, some people think tentacle rape and decapitation is sexy, so whatever.

[MLE]

see you didn't even get past balmora. i'd be having this conversation privately with you on aim, but you're not on

jerk

[Dr. Boogie]

It's also worth noting that this is the same guy who found Cliff Racers to be deadly, rather than merely annoying.

[Guitar Woman]

My problem was that I was constantly running and any monster that hit me before I could kill it instantly crippled me and could stand around chicken stomping me at their leisure.

I don't do that anymore, but as a result it takes me 10 hours to go anywhere.

[MetalMilitia]

It really irritates me that no one makes non-fantasy RPGs, I mean STALKER was decent but I think some kind of modern warfare themed RPG would be something I could really get into. Kind of like BF2 but with proper character development/modification and a persistent world.

[executioneer]

i personally always made a character that specialized in athletics and had the sign of the steed to get around the slowness problem

that and i used siltstriders

plus don't the later patches add quick travel for easy city-to-city travel? or am i misremembering

[executioneer]

It really irritates me that no one makes non-fantasy RPGs, I mean STALKER was decent but I think some kind of modern warfare themed RPG would be something I could really get into. Kind of like BF2 but with proper character development/modification and a persistent world.

what about fallout 3 man

[Guitar Woman]

Oh, yeah, I also play it unmodded, that might be part of the problem.

It's sort of stupid how the game is only good after you modify it extensively, though.

[executioneer]

i play it unmodded too

just patched

[Dr. Boogie]

I guess. The only mod I got was one that added a merchant who could actually afford to buy really expensive items from you so I could get rid of some Daedric stuff I found early on after a huge stroke of luck.

[Samfucius]

hmmm... given the title of this thread, what can I say to make the maximum number of nerds angry with the minimum number of words... hmmm... I got it.


Final Fantasy SUCKS.

[Chojin]

GASP

[Neen]

Yeah! Who doesn't like melodrama and androgyny?

Isn't that the reason people put it up there with the Legend of Zelda series?

[Misdemonar]

fallout 1 and 2 is where it's at.

[executioneer]

dude welcome to being me three years ago

or was it achimp and five, i can't remember

[Misdemonar]

bering willie is great guys you should try it

[executioneer]

hahaha

i was talking to s. fucious :(

[timrpgland]

GTAIV in April. Get your pre-orders ready!

[Zomboid]

I don't want to. The same thing will happen that happened with smash bros brawl. It'll get delayed and I'll just be hurt again :(

[Mintrude]

So, I got Super Mario Bros. 2 for the virtual console. What does everyone think of it? It's something of the black sheep of the mario games.

[Chojin]

i've always liked it the best out of the NES mario games :<

[MarioRPG]

I don't understand why the developers chose Doki Doki Panic as a game to make in to Mario. I mean, they could have chosen a better platformer...

[Pub Lover]

Do I like any good games? It never seems like it. :(

[Guitar Woman]

I heartily agree about SMB2 being the best NES Mario game

[Guitar Woman]

Chojin that Korean MMO you forced on me made my computer blue screen and loop the same nanosecond of the music over and over again to eternity

I TOLD YOU IT WOULD NOT WORK, WHY DO YOU NEVER LISTEN

[Neen]

I don't understand why the developers chose Doki Doki Panic as a game to make in to Mario. I mean, they could have chosen a better platformer...

Because the creator of Mario made it. In fact he had more to do with it than the japanese SMB2.

[Schimid]

Fuck SMB2. It's the only Mario game I haven't beaten to date and it's because I can't.

[Grossenschwamm]

SMB2 isn't so bad. A hard game would definitely be Battle Toads. The difficulty scales so quickly in that game, I'm surprised that there are kids who beat it when it was new. I tried, but the only way I could was with a game genie. Now, I still can't beat it without cheating, but I can at least get to the level with the giant sawblades chasing you on my own.

[Guitar Woman]

Battletoads is beatable without cheating if you know the right warps and have absolutely no life so you can spend as much time as possible memorizing everything you have to do in a level

[Guitar Woman]

Battletoads Arcade is a whole different ballgame, though, and a better game.

There's a cabinet for it down in an arcade by my family's vacation house, and every time me and my friend go down there I force him to play through it with me. >:

[Chojin]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2udm8qSnhLs

oh snap :<

[Fathom Zero]

Hahahaha

Is yours fried? You haven't been online in about 36 days.

[executioneer]

that is the second reason i haven't got a 360 yet

the first is lack of funds

[Chojin]

nothing's been on the 360 that I wanted to play, really

at least, not anything that I wanted to play more than the stuff I've already got on Wii and PC.

[Fathom Zero]

S'aright.

I want the Ninjabread Man.

[Codiekitty]

I think I'm going to skip the Xbox and get a 360, but it's still a bit pricey for me, there aren't enough 360 games I want, I want to avoid the Red Ring of Death, and last I checked not all the Xbox games I wanted to play were backwards compatable (Stranger's Wrath)

[Emu]

S'aright.

I want the Ninjabread Man.

Ninjabread Man is quite possibly the lowest ranked game on Gamerakings.com. (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/938506.asp?q=ninjabread%20man)

[Fathom Zero]

So? It's the NINJABREAD MAN.

[Fat_Hippo]

Is it just me, or is that same Gingerbread Man as in Shrek? They'll make a game out of anything these days...:eek

[DuFresne]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c63/Rosenstern/ninjabrednot.jpg http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c63/Rosenstern/ninjabred.jpg


It's just you :rolleyes

[Bavles]

Is....is that a real game...? I'm hoping for the dignity of mankind that it's not...

[stitchfan626]

Is it just me, or is that same Gingerbread Man as in Shrek? They'll make a game out of anything these days...:eek

you think a game about a kung fu fighting cookie's crazy. Endless Ocean is a major trip, 'cause all you do is go scuba diving, plus what makes it so cool is that you can hang on to sharks (without being mangled).

[theaccidentalmimo]

two words: Katamari Darmacy.

[Pub Lover]

Exactly what are you saying about Katamari Damacy?

[Pub Lover]

Maybe before you answer I should warn you that I look like this:


http://blog.makezine.com/283957070_f2316db730.jpg

[Emu]

Now that's the kind of cosplay I can respect.

[Guitar Woman]

god damn, Zombie Master is a fucking abomination

[MetalMilitia]

Zombie Panic is better. Although the new Source version doesn't seem quite as fun as the old HL version.

Also check out DIPRIP. It's a shooting-car-type-thingy mod for Source. It's really fun.

[Guitar Woman]

Fistful of Frags is even worse than Zombie Master was, I'm not trusting you anymore.

[MetalMilitia]

It's a little rough around the edges but has solid gameplay. It sounds stupid but it's one of those games which you need to get good at before it's really fun.
It's kind of like Battlegrounds in that none of the weapons are especially deadly but if you master them it suddenly gets good.

But I'm not convinced you actually like shooters, GW. So you may as well just go back to playing Runescape and uninstall Steam entirely.

[Guitar Woman]

Or this game just could be horrible

I got banned from the two halfway-active game servers for spamming My Chemical Romance, anyway, so it's not like I could still play if I wanted to.

[Fathom Zero]

DIPRIP looks like Twisted Metal or Auto Assault.

[Noodles]

Dosent that game have about 18 servers?

[BongHitMan]

Your video game sucks and you're an asshole >:

[executioneer]

bonghitman are you a spambot or are you just an idiot

[BongHitMan]

little of both, sir.

[Dr. Octogonopus]

At least he doesn't jump on the bandwagon, poooooooseeeerrrrrr!

[executioneer]

are you talking to juttin or to me

[Dr. Octogonopus]

I don't even SEE a juttin, so it MUST be you.

[executioneer]

in that case, what are you on about

[Dr. Octogonopus]

WELL, if you've been paying attention, lately a lot of people have changed their avatars to really grainy emoticons, and I think you're a sellout.

[executioneer]

dude this is my old avatar from like '03

i'm not bandwagon jumping i'm REMINISCING

[executioneer]

whoops i rechecked it is probably more like '04

[Dr. Octogonopus]

Then SOMEONE'S on the freaking bandwagon. I feel a rant starting.

[Esuohlim]

Argue about video games this is not an emoticon avatar witchhunt >:

[executioneer]

if we're on the bandwagon you're on the rag

[Dr. Octogonopus]

hahahahah nice.

[T-Rex]

Everyone knows that the greatest video game ever created is: Home Improvement for the SNES.


Plot

The player guides Tim "The Toolman" Taylor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Taylor_%28fictional_character%29) in a quest to find some Binford power tools that have gone missing from the set of Tool Time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_Time).

Gameplay

The game plays like many other action/platform games of the time that were based on popular television shows or movies (like Virgin's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Interactive_Entertainment) The Lion King (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion_King_%28video_game%29), which was also released in 1994 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_in_video_gaming).)

The player's weapons include modified tools such as a nail gun, a blowtorch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowtorch) (used as a flamethrower (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamethrower)), and a chainsaw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chainsaw) which inexplicably hurls energy waves.

These weapons are used to fight dinosaurs, acid-spewing mummies, robot sentries, and other enemies.

The game is broken down into 4 worlds of 4 levels, each world containing a boss level.

It is also worth noting that the game had no manual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_manual_%28computer_and_video_games%29) ; its splash screen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splash_screen) explained, “Real men don’t need instructions.”

[executioneer]

that game actually is surprisingly fun

[GADZOOKS]

I fucking beat that game, maybe I should do a Let's Play of it :rolleyes

Better get Jamesman to do the commentary though, I can't do a Yoda impression.

[Pub Lover]

a lot of people have changed their avatars to really grainy emoticons, .

Who can't tell the difference between grains & pixels? Fuckwits.

Dr. Octogonopus, you are a fuckwit.

[liquidstatik]

It is also worth noting that the game had no manual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_manual_%28computer_and_video_games%29) ; its splash screen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splash_screen) explained, “Real men don’t need instructions.”
:lol

[WhiteRat]

Woah, T-Rex you need to lay off the god damn wiki links.

[T-Rex]

http://wiki.urbandead.com/images/thumb/6/69/WikiPatrol.png/300px-WikiPatrol.png

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I just found out about Brutal Legend coming out 4th quarter of 2008. A Roadie is transported to Heavy Metal land(so I guess Norse Mythology mixed with epic metal), wields a battle axe and guitar. Can control various npcs to attack(similiar to the darkness, I believe) Worth mentioning that Lemmy and Rob Halford are doing voices in it. Doesn't look too bad, made by the same guy who brought you Secret of Monkey Island.

[Dr. Octogonopus]

I still can't wait for Earth No More.

[Fathom Zero]

At least smoke doesn't affect my 360's laser.

[T-Rex]

I watched some video footage of the new Call Of Duty 4 maps. "Creek" looks awesome. The review said it's really big and open, ideal for sniping. Set in an out door environment, it was designed for the guillie suit.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/071/reviews/939212_20080312_screen002.jpg

[Sebra]

man bart vs the space mutants is hard

[Madface]

I just found out about Brutal Legend coming out 4th quarter of 2008. A Roadie is transported to Heavy Metal land(so I guess Norse Mythology mixed with epic metal), wields a battle axe and guitar. Can control various npcs to attack(similiar to the darkness, I believe) Worth mentioning that Lemmy and Rob Halford are doing voices in it. Doesn't look too bad, made by the same guy who brought you Secret of Monkey Island.

Holy snap! I had no idea Halford was voicing in it. My interest has officially been peaked.

[Emu]

That screenshot reminds me of one of the arenas from that old Kids Gone Wild or whateveritwascalled gameshow on Nickelodeon.

[Chojin]

wild & crazy kids

[Fathom Zero]

I don't understand how that could remind you of it.

[Emu]

I think they had a special episode once where they went to Orlando Studios and played some kind of paintballesque game. This is only a very vague memory since I was probably 4 or 5 when I saw it.

[Guitar Woman]

I was gonna say, all I remember about that show was green slime and elementary school PE games

[Seven Force]

i remember when they shot that black chick and replaced her with a white one

that show was black enough as it was

[MrLieutenant]

My favourite game, after all this time, is still Kid Icarus...

Unfortunately, my old codes don't work anymore with the Wii virtual console stuff... But I rarely used them anyways...

[MrLieutenant]

DOUBLE POST: I VANQUISH THEE!

[T-Rex]

Don't you find that games today, although really fun, aren't as easily picked up and played as older games are? Example, Co-op play: Contra VS Army Of Two. Anyone will be familiar with Contras concept and controls in about twenty seconds. AOT would require about 15-20 minutes to really get into it.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I think they had a special episode once where they went to Orlando Studios and played some kind of paintballesque game. This is only a very vague memory since I was probably 4 or 5 when I saw it.

Like a wild west shootout I think.

They had one kid who got shot with paintballs and did some over the top fall to the ground.

[Guitar Woman]

So it seems like every first party Nintendo release is just a little more mediocre than the last one, which I then appreciate a whole lot more than when I first announced it's shittyness.

Example: I hated Twilight Princess when I first got it and was angry with Nintnedo for churning out such a mediocre pile of doodie after hyping it up the ass as the second coming. Then I played Mario Galaxy. I have since changed my mind about Twilight Princess and think that it is a really good game!

This either means that I'm disappointed easily and that I have to eat shit to realize how good a plate of brussel sprouts can be, or that my standards are being lowered ever so tenderly with each shitty new release. I'm not sure where I'm going with this but I can only think it spells doom for the future of good videogames

or something :<

Don't get me wrong, either, there are still fucking fantastic games like No More Heroes and PVK2 coming out these days, it just seems like there aren't nearly as many as there used to be.


Also before Zomboid comes in and jumps down my throat let me say that I'm using Nintendo as an example because the only new console I own is a Wii. I've only played a handful of games for the PS3 and Xbox Circle, all of which have been crappy to mildy fun, but probably still not enough to get a good idea of the general state of videogames. If I did I have a feeling I'd be saying about the same thing as a general analysis of the medium and not just complaining about Nintendo's aging design talent.

[Guitar Woman]

Or mabye I'm finally growing up and realizing that all videogames are completely stupid wastes of time anyway, I don't know

[T-Rex]

I read an article on MSN news that Nintendo is letting real gamers down because their main target is kids and casual gamers, basically. My girlfriend likes playing the Wii but won't jam on the 360. She enjoys watching me play games on 360 because she likes the story. She followed me playing Gears Of War like it was a tv series. I only play the Wii when there's other people around.

[Pub Lover]

Which is the bigger & least tapped market?

[Kybo Ren]

wii Mythmakers kart== roommates got it and played one track- went back to store and bought steering wheels and disney cars. they refused to even touch mmskgp, so i got drunk and gave it a whir, unlocked all charachters and special but- FUCK that game c'mon mariokart!!

i miss xbox 360

also TETRIS BEST GAME OF ALL TIME

[T-Rex]

Which is the bigger & least tapped market?

Well this depends, really. Kids and casual gamers will make up a larger number of people than the hard core. However, kids and casuals won't buy nearly as many titles or hardware as the hard core gamers. A hard core gamer is more likely to buy an Elite or custom Halo 360 than a casual gamer is. I think Nintendo is in a good position because they really understand the market they're in, but their titles have to be aimed at that market. Personally, I laugh a lot more when playing the Wii so it's my favourite console with company. Alone, I would say it's only 50% as good.

[Pub Lover]

Personally, I laugh a lot more when playing the Wii so it's my favourite console with company. Alone, I would say it's only 50% as good.

So your advice to GW is to get off the internet and make some real goddamn friends? :eek

[T-Rex]

So your advice to GW is to get off the internet and make some real goddamn friends? :eek

Word.

[Kybo Ren]

Which is the bigger & least tapped market?

big untapped market: the elderly. awhile back i'm playin cod3 on x360, and a couple of ww2 vets were "trying it out, reliving old times". they got slaughtered though.

personally i think someone gave the headsets to grandpa-
:hypno

[Chojin]

Honest abe:

I think it's hard to say that Nintendo doesn't tap the hardcore market when it releases fanboy elitist shit like Super Smash Bros and Metroid Prime 3.

If you're talking about a sheer percentage of games that are rated M FOR MATURE, then, sure, I guess? Though I'd wager at least half of the "hardcore" franchises around these days are rated T.

Also the article damning nintendo was from MSN - Do you not know what the "MS" in MSN stands for?

[Emu]

Micro...soft?

As in the makers of the XBox 360??

[executioneer]

do you guys remember that news story back from the 90s that said, basically, that nintendon't

or was it the late 80s i can't remember now

[Fathom Zero]

You've made our point, though. Nintendo appeals to hardcore Nintendo fans. Not the hardcore or even medium core people that buy generally good games.

Luckily, it looks like the 3rd-party stuff is starting to pick up a bit. Wiiware will definitely bring it up a bit.

[Chojin]

And Microsoft appeals to hardcore Microsoft fans. Are you trying to say that Microsoft represents TRUE gaming, while Nintendo - who's been around longer than any of their competitors - doesn't?

[Phoenix Gamma]

Nintendo appeals more towards Nintendo fans with is barely-updated sequels (really, Zelda puzzles haven't advanced at all, Mario's still collecting stars, and the Pokemon games are all the same,) and now the more casual crowd. Obviously people outside of those groups play too, but in terms of focus, Nintendo's hell bent on their established franchises and casual gaming.

Those are the two biggest demographics in gaming, so I'd say Nintendo's fanbase represents the majority of gamers. I won't dare take a stab at guessing the ratio of the fanbases, but I'd say the majority definitely resides in Ninty's camp.

Also "hardcore gamer" is a such stupid term. It brings up images of fat, sweaty, hairy losers who go around all "Yea I'm a motherfucking hardcore gamer I totally game way harder than anyone else". Seriously now.

do you guys remember that news story back from the 90s that said, basically, that nintendon't

or was it the late 80s i can't remember now

http://www.igniq.com/images/genesis_nintendont_130605.jpg

90's. lol advertising.

[Fathom Zero]

I'm not saying I just support Microsoft. I'm all for anybody that makes kick-ass games and Nintendo doesn't do that for me anymore. Microsoft Game Studios has been putting out a lot of cool stuff for me that I've really been getting into recently. And fuck that seniority bullshit. Whatever, so what if Microsoft wasn't the OG and it's a relatively young player. I'm not a really retro guy. I'm the generation that came after you. I grew up on the Playstation. But I also remember my Super Nintendo, I remember Mr. Do and Super Buster Bros. and Mario Kart and Star Fox and Super Mario World. I still love those games. But they are the past and I don't love them enough to care if they're all smashed together in some generic sport or fighting game. Yes, I like Mario Party 3. It holds memories for me. That game specifically, not any spinoffs or sequals, that game.

I've got no attachment to Metroid, though.

I don't think anybody represents true gaming right now. Microsoft's too young, Nintendo's forgotten what brought people to the table in the first place, and Sony? Well, they're lingering by a thread but still hanging on. I'll be interested to see what happens to them in the years to come. All we get now is mere glimpses of TRUE gaming. And I don't just mean the first and second party devs under console makers' wings, either. I'm talking fresh blood, third party developers. I think attention will shift to Indie Games (I hate that label.) Smaller, independent game developers given more money and more time.

That's not to say that there will only be independent developers in the future. If that was to be, then we'd be waiting forever for a game to be released and just grow impatient and lose interest. Not every game has to be a gem, but not every one has to purposely play down either.

Why can't people just look into a game that everyone can enjoy? Does it cost too much in money? Can one not hope to please that many?

Whatever. I'll just sit back and play my GTA IV and my No More Heroes and probably look back on these times fondly. In short, a nod to Microsoft, a "fuck you" to Nintendo, and a glance-over towards Sony.

[Phoenix Gamma]

You can't please everyone. You can go into the desert, find some stranded person, give them chocolate ice cream, and they'll tell you they don't like chocolate.

Also, it's not a "fuck you" to Nintendo if you're playing No More Heroes on their console. They have your munnies.

Also, the 360 needs some games that aren't shooters, racers, or Madden. Talk about appealing to a limited demographic.

[Chojin]

So what - in your opinion - "brought people to the table in the first place"?

It would seem that that's the entire POINT of the Wii and DS.

PG - Can't disagree with much of what you're saying; Nintendo whores the hell out of its franchises -which appeal to the "hardcore" market - and somehow ends up branded as a kiddie game manufacturer. I just don't get it. Fathom - EITHER THEY MAKE KID GAMES OR THEY MAKE HARDCORE GAMES. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, SENATOR.

[Fathom Zero]

I damn well can. By "bring people to the table" I meant the new guys and stuff, of course. I also meant everybody else. Nintendo fans will buy Nintendo games, a given with anything. "Casual" gamers, and by that I mean not just the ones that play Peggle for hours, will buy anything that evidences a gimmick. What about the more discerning person than someone who will buy the colorful game that is not yet a Nintendo fan? I was this person a couple years ago.

I had a subscription to Game Informer, I looked at reviews, and I looked at gameplay videos and tried to decide which game to buy with which console. Albeit, I never had a Gamecube. I'm getting one in the near future. I would get a Wii, and I probably still will, but someone's giving it to me. I see some good games I want for it.

Regardless, if a million people stopped buying Mario Party 42, Nintendo would still be making money hand over fist. I don't give a flying fuck about Mario or Samus or Fox or Link anymore. WHERE'S THE NEW STUFF? Why rehash the same characters? It's nice to have a throwback every once in a while, but when your entire business is based on characters you've invented nigh on twenty years ago, well I just can't get behind you. Even if everyone else does.

[Phoenix Gamma]

I can't tell if you disagree with us or not.

Also, WiiSports, WiiFit, etc. is your new stuff. Enjoy playing videogames with your whole family (I know I am!)

And if I wanted to apply a technicality to your last statement, Fire Emblem doesn't recycle characters from 20 years ago, and neither does Advance Wars, even if the gameplay is similar. Also Custom Robo, Golden Sun, Mother, Pikmin, Elite Beat Agents, Excite Truck, Trace Memory, and Nintendogs, to name a few. Now toss in WiiSports, WiiFit, etc., etc. and compare it to Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Metroid, and Pokemon, and keep in mind that sequels from Camp Nintendo usually come out at least 3 years a part, and you'll realize that they're more balanced.

To quote my favorite behemoth, Reggie, who was asked if Nintendo's mystery winter blockbuster was Zelda:

You just got Twilight Princess!

[Fathom Zero]

I just don't think Nintendo is the fucking be-all-end-all of video games that people say the are. But neither is Microsoft nor Sony. Fan-boys disgust me more than anything else, more than rapists.

My whole family does not want to play Wii Fit. They don't get it. EBA isn't getting a sequal, Nintendogs is shit, Mother isn't going to come to America any time soon. Custom Robo is okay, but I played it before when it was called Virtual-On. Great game. I like Pikmin a lot. After the first Golden Sun, I kinda got bored of the second. Fantastic game that really pushes the GBA, though. I like Professor Layton. Games like this, though, seemed to get pushed over to the side while everyone crowds around the newest iteration of something else. I need third party developers with good new intellectual properties. Dead Rising, for instance. Great game and I'd like to see another.

I don't know. I guess nothing ever seems to jump out at me anymore. I've become disinterested in games, but I've come back later this year.

I'm telling you, WiiWare can bring me back.

By the by, No More Heroes is published by Ubisoft.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Really? Rapists are pretty bad.

I am really hooked on Army of 2 though. I haven't played a good two player game like that on a console since Doom Troopers. I've pretty much given up on videogames years ago since they stopped making rpgs that aren't mmo's.

I have that same feeling that Marty Mcfly gets in Back to the Future: 2, where he plays the western shooter arcade game in the future. Then some kids make fun of him because the game requires hands to play it.

[Chojin]

Fathom - What does Ubisoft have to do with anything? They're a publisher. They weren't there when the game was being developed.

Also, you can say the exact same 'franchise rape' thing about ANY company's 1st-party titles. The reason Nintendo has so many of them is because they sell well. Nintendo also converts a lot of 3rd parties into 1st parties, so their "non-existent 3rd party support" exists partly because they buy successful 3rd parties. Are those 3rd parties no longer successful at that point? Microsoft and Sony try to do this too.

I'm also not saying that Nintendo is the be-all-end-all of video games, but I think they represent the direction the industry should be going if it doesn't want to continue losing customers year after year and eventually become irrelevant. Video games are about fun, and judging from the results you've seen so far with the Wii and DS, Nintendo is providing the bulk of that and not excluding everyone not in the MALE 18-25 demographic.

Also, you have the same idiot fanboys that drool over GTA 4, Madden 200X, and Halo 3 to blame for Smash Bros 9 and Mario Party 2023. That isn't a Nintendo problem. These people aren't "gamers" in the traditional sense, they're punk-ass kids who play maybe 3 games a year and rely on industry hype to tell them what everyone else will be playing. Nintendo traditionally doesn't hype games until they're already out, and even then they only do it to support their 1st party titles. Most 3rd parties - for whatever reason - won't spend the bread to market their Nintendo games to any successful degree. Microsoft and Sony will deign to pick up a large part of the marketing tab, and this is probably Nintendo's biggest error.

As for game informer, I suggest you read any other magazine if you'd like some actual Nintendo coverage. I've never seen a publication not formally associated with a brand be so unabashedly biased in my life.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Long post is looooong:

I just don't think Nintendo is the fucking be-all-end-all of video games that people say the are. But neither is Microsoft nor Sony. Fan-boys disgust me more than anything else, more than rapists.

Delicious hyperbole, or whacked out priorities?

My whole family does not want to play Wii Fit. Great. That's relevant to my point (that Nintendo has other games besides the popular ones.)

EBA isn't getting a sequal, Nintendogs is shit, Mother isn't going to come to America any time soon. Custom Robo is okay, but I played it before when it was called Virtual-On. Great game. I like Pikmin a lot. After the first Golden Sun, I kinda got bored of the second. Fantastic game that really pushes the GBA, though. I like Professor Layton.I never said they were good or anything. I said they're not whored out franchises. Oi vey. As a side note, Custom Robo and Virtual-On are quite different. That's like comparing a hamburger with a hot dog; sure they're both processes meat between bread, but they're different. Also, Professor Layton is 3rd Party.

I'm telling you, WiiWare can bring me back.So you praise a copycat XBLA? I mean, I suck Nintycock, but even I know it's probably going to pale in comparison to what's already been offered for quite some time. Putting faith in WiiWare to be some sort of messiah is like putting faith in SEGA to make a good Sonic game. There might be a tiny glimmer of hope, but don't count on it. (inb4 Sonic debate).

By the by, No More Heroes is published by Ubisoft.By the way, what does that have to do with Nintendo franchises?

Also, Chojin hit the nail on the head about everything. Everyone franchise-rapes (Capcom, MOTHERFUCKING EA, Rockstar, SEGA, SquareEnix, etc.) At Nintendo's broadening the demographic so that not all gamers are associated with the same trash we see running their mouths on XBox Live. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/PGamma/maturegamer.jpg)

EDIT: Well here's (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/30356/Core-gamer-market-is-saturated) an article posted today that's of interest to the discussion.

[Fathom Zero]

As for game informer, I suggest you read any other magazine if you'd like some actual Nintendo coverage. I've never seen a publication not formally associated with a brand be so unabashedly biased in my life.

Like Nintendo Power? :P

Y'see, that was sarcasm, as Nintendo Power would obviously cater towards enjoyers of Nintendo.

Also, it's not a "fuck you" to Nintendo if you're playing No More Heroes on their console. They have your munnies.

My argument is about games, not consoles. That's what I was getting at with the fact that it was published by Ubisoft.

I'm done here. Give yourselves a high-five. Companies can do what they will to make money. But if that means I don't like their shit, then they're just not going to get anymore money from me. Nor will I give them any props or something like that for being successful.

[Phoenix Gamma]

::high fives Chojin::

It doesn't really matter any way you slice it. You're just looking at this as half-empty. Besides, I don't think you even looked at half the points made.

[Fathom Zero]

Your points are gay.

Chojin, when are you gonna review Battle of the Bands for ErickandEmily?

[Chojin]

Like Nintendo Power? :P

Y'see, that was sarcasm, as Nintendo Power would obviously cater towards enjoyers of Nintendo.

As for game informer, I suggest you read any other magazine if you'd like some actual Nintendo coverage. I've never seen a publication not formally associated with a brand be so unabashedly biased in my life.

Also xbox and playstation already have their own official magazines, they don't need a 3rd party rag (which is distributed by the truckload at gamestops and EBs) masquerading as an unbiased source, too.

why yes chojin your point does make sense now that i actually read it

My argument is about games, not consoles. That's what I was getting at with the fact that it was published by Ubisoft.

I still don't understand what you're getting at, here.

What gets me upset about the industry is ironically the same thing (in theory) that 360 and PS3 fanboys are upset about - a new generation of non-gamers swooping in and making the next few years of games all about THEM. For me, that already happened years ago - it was the Mortal Kombat generation that weren't (or aren't) old enough to play mature games and ever since then, that's all they'll play. For them, it's the MINIGAME FAGS who seek to rid the planet of the good ol' fashioned bloodshed this industry has been built on for as long as they can remember (1992). And I wonder, do they have any idea where this industry started? Because infinite play games like Donkey Kong and Pac-Man reek of MINIGAME to me.

And I'll always respect the company more that's willing to put out a virtual boy or two just to do something different.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Your points are gay.

People besides me made way better points so I guess they're gay too.

God, Hateboys are way worse than fanboys.

[Fathom Zero]

Yeah, you're just a big buncha gay dudes. I bet you could get a vidya games show on Logo.

[Guitar Woman]

ICE BURN

[Emu]

at least we finally got back to arguing about video games >:

[Phoenix Gamma]

Yeah, you're just a big buncha gay dudes. I bet you could get a vidya games show on Logo.

HAH! I don't even know what you're talking about, so I'm not even insulted! It's like my ignorance is rubber, and you're glue so whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.

[Fathom Zero]

Don't you have some Newgrounds to peruse, mate?

[T-Rex]

HAH! I don't even know what you're talking about, so I'm not even insulted! It's like my ignorance is rubber, and you're glue so whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.

:-(

Guys, comparing Nintendo to Microsoft and Sony is like comparing a Family Car to a Sports Car. They're both cars but it's unfair to compare them. They both cater for different markets. Sure, a Sports Car is much more graphically powerful than a Nintendo Wii, but it doesn't have the Wireless Motion Control Wiimotes of a Family Car.

[Phoenix Gamma]

@Fathom: No, I was too busy reading your whiny livejournal.

@T-Rex: I like that analogy, but it's missing something. Wii offers something that the competition doesn't, but I dunno if I can say that about a family car (having never owned one)

[Zomboid]

Wii offers INNOVATIVE CONTROLS (that don't add a whole lot) and MARIO! What's not to like?! :picklehat

[Fathom Zero]

@Fathom: No, I was too busy reading your whiny livejournal.

I don't have one. Or is that a laugh you're trying to instill in others by saying that I did? 'Cause if it was, that was a dumb joke.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Sorry, I thought we were arguing about video games, not about who's a bigger troll. lolseriousbusiness.

[Fathom Zero]

Okay. If you were a video game character, you'd be Slippy Toad, douchebag.

What the hell is a troll, anyway?

[Guitar Woman]

you guys are all 10 years old

[Fathom Zero]

COME SAY THAT TO MY FACE. <

[Phoenix Gamma]

And you'd be Panther, cause he's sooo dreamy, just like you <3

Anywho, back on topic, if you're going to blame anyone for videogame rehashes (not you specifically, but everyone in general), blame the fans. We got good stuff, then different stuff that was still good. Fan(boy)s wanted more of the old stuff, and companies scrambled to appease them (best example being Square and their million-bajillion-FF7-Sequel-Extravaganzmatazz). Then fans said "what the shit? We want original stuff too!"

Now companies are either saying "goddamnit. Fine, we'll shift gears again." or "fuck you we already started production on 5 different Final Fantasy XIIIs." I've noticed that Capcom is mixing things up a little here and there, as well as a few other companies. Then you've got the bands of disgruntled developers leaving one company to start another (Treasure, Mistwalker).

Plus, certain franchises carry more credibility than others. If you were forced to chose between a new Mario and a new Ty the Tasmanian Tiger, most people would probably go for Mario. It's only natural for people to stick with what they're more comfortable with (which makes entering the console race pretty hard too. I was surprised to see the XBox stick around.)

Moral of the story: when a company puts out a game it hasn't whored out for ages, you should buy it and encourage them to make more different shit, then when the company thinks they can cash in on a sequel, pass on it. Probably a bad mindset to think in, but it gets the point across.

(Also, do we REALLY need another Bioshock? Seriously, 100+ people work on games now and none of them can pitch anything better than "sequel to the best selling game of last year"? Oi Vey.)

[Guitar Woman]

Excuse me, but isn't Capcom the poster child for endlessly releasing the same fucking game over and over again?

[Phoenix Gamma]

Yea, buuuut....

I dunno. It feels like they're trying some different stuff. Then again, I can't think of any examples besides Okami. I'm sure there are others. Just...uh...lemme look on wikipedia for evidence to support my wild claims...

EDIT: okay, Dead Rising, Lost Planet, the upcoming Dark Void, and if you count Bionic Commando (because it's been, like, decades since the last one) then that's four...Okay, bad example.

[Fathom Zero]

Hey, Bionic Commando was a great game and I was waiting for a fly-ass sequal. I loved the one for the GBC. The thing, with me at least, is that Nintendo seems to put more attention on their sequals and spinoffs as opposed to new shit. That seems to work for them, so what the hey. Capcom has put a lot of spotlight on their new games, while still seemingly releasing a new Mega Man game every month.

That's my opinion, that's how I feel, and it's neither right nor wrong.

Even though I'm right. :/

[Phoenix Gamma]

Oh no, I never said it was bad. I loved it at lot (even though I wish it had jumping, but that's nothing to cry over.)

I just think that whether or not you count it in the same category as some of their other franchises (All 70 Mega Man series, Street Fighter II Turbo Mega Ultra Edition 2: Electric Boogaloo, etc.) is kinda up for debate. I could see them really milking it dry, but for the sake of preserving the integrity of the game, I hope they give it a break after the new games come out. Just let them stand as great nods to a great game.

And I must say, the remake looks fucking sick. I'm not too sure about the 'Next-Gen' version, but the second the classic music started up, I bought into it.

[Fathom Zero]

Mike Patton is doing voicework for it. :\

[Phoenix Gamma]

I'm not sure if I should be worried or not. The only work of his that I'm familiar with is "the Angry Sphere" from Portal, which tells me zilch about what he's capable of.

Actually, now that I'm skimming through the wikipedia article, it's jogging my memory. I'm familiar with his music, but I haven't seen him doing any "conventional" voice acting (or rather, I haven't seen him do anything outside of music, though apparently he voiced in I Am Legend.)

I'll wait before I start groaning about it, though. I mean, I know Capcom has a history of laughable voice acting, but so long as I get some awesome Capcom music and get to move around like a maniac, there shouldn't be any problems.

I mean, it can't be any worse than Sonic's "big revival", right?

[bigtimecow]

MIKE PATTON you numbskull

mr. bungle, fantomas, tomahawk, peeping tom

i know this isn't the music forum but JEEZ

[Guitar Woman]

Mike Patton can suck a penis

[Esuohlim]

NO

[executioneer]

well if he did he'd swallow, he'd swallow, he'd swallow

[Asila]

Oh God guys the mental image, why would yoooooou

[Fathom Zero]

Good one, willie :lol

He did the Darkness as well.

[Fat Ugly Drunk]

When my mate's blackberry-like thing is running low on power it does one of Patton's lines from The Darkness.
"THE LIGHT GROWS DIMMMMM!"
"Is that Patton?"
"Yeah."
"Cool... You tosser. :)"
":)"

Mike Patton is doing voicework for it. :\

I saw the trailer, he sounds like an 80s OTT action hero, totally serious and unintentionally funny as fuck.
Awesome.




...Fantomas need to start doing videogame soundtracks.

[Fathom Zero]

Except for the fact that it doesn't exist anymore.

[Guitar Woman]

the guy you have to fight at the end of the Dead Sea in Chrono Cross is the most unfair shit I've ever seen in a game

I really like this game, too, but now I can't go any further :<

[Emu]

Yeah, he's a pain in the ass. :< You basically just have to get lucky because he'll spam Holy Dragon Sword on you for the entire battle. If you have any element-switchers other than Turn Black those are good too

[Misdemonar]

so who likes PLANESCAAAAPE?

[Fat_Hippo]

Meeeeeeeeeeeeee.

[Misdemonar]

yea but i dont care about you

[Chojin]

so i finally got my sega tower (sega cd v.1, genesis v.1, 32x) and the controller ports on the genesis don't work ;_;

[Fathom Zero]

Looks like you gotta crack her open.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Does anyone still play FFXI?

[Chojin]

10KVG - I don't think anyone ever did.

Got a new used genesis mk.1 from POWER GAMER II downtown for about $26. This one works! Ebay guy wants the 32x back if I'm to get a fulll refund, hopefully he'll accept giving me a partial refund of $26 instead.

I'm really stuck on this adventure game for the 3DO i've been playing between games of mario kart :<

Also, I only have one game for my Sega CD and I can already tell that it's the worst system between it, the CD-i, and the 3DO.

[Zomboid]

Wrong. It had lethal enforcers and dragon's lair. Sewer Shark was fun too.

[Chojin]

I was talking specs-wise. Also, those games are on both the 3DO and CD-i in higher bits.

[Chojin]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z8-dipscKg4

Here's the adventure game I'm playing on 3DO. WHAT GRAPHICS :eek

[Emu]

I think that's a pretty accurate rendition of Hell

hahahaha that judo chop to the back of the neck had me giggling like a schoolgirl

[Chojin]

Oh and here's a game that rog recommended I play:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NqOaRtDMc2E

They don't show the SONG AND DANCE NUMBER from the intro :'<
But this has simultaneous 2-player with a black quazar!

[executioneer]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8GFj6hPa3A0
this one has the song and dance, but the rest of the intro's in uhh german i think

[Girl Drink Drunk]

Chojin, have you played this game? http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ut6IIVBwFow :lol

[Chojin]

lol

no, but I have torrents of all the CD-i and 3DO games known to man and I will have to play that one next :<

[Phoenix Gamma]

I prefer Mutant Rampage as my CD-i game of choice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5HjsMkNxF8

[Chojin]

Hey I'm playing Mutant Rampage right now! I'm on the third set of bosses, but probably don't have enough lives saved up to beat the game :<

[Phoenix Gamma]

I just watch the intro for the screaming pterodactyl-baby and the footage of each character's one move.

Wait, the third guy has two moves, huh?

I do hear the game is more tolerable than most CD-i games (not that it's a difficult task)

[Guitar Woman]

RUINED THE WORLD'S CITIES

[Guitar Woman]

THIS JUST IN:

People playing Strikers are still douchebags!

[WhiteRat]

Just received three Saturn games from Ebay today. I got Fighting Vipers, Galactic Attack, and Panzer Dragoon for about 12 bucks.

[Grislygus]

Fighting Vipers was so great

[Chojin]

i bought the jap version of fighting vipers at a power gamer store for $17 or something a year ago :< and yes, it is still great :<

[Chojin]

Man, the ending to hell was shorter than most of the conversations you have. What gives.

[Chojin]

Also I got beheaded in a totally rad way and a combat buddy shot my face off. If I can reach the cables over here or get fraps to work right with Freedo I'll put all the cutscenes up on youtube.

[Chojin]

In the future, passwords will be replaced by solving puzzles and other assorted brain-teasers.

[Zomboid]

Chojin had his edit button taken away too.

[timrpgland]

I'm happy cause I recently got Secret of Mana back...... shut up GW :(

[Guitar Woman]

HOW DARE YOU DISCUSS GAMES I DISLIKE

[Emu]

If Secret of Mana had Secret of Evermore's engine, graphics and partner AI it would've been one of the best SNES games, maybe.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Meh, I never got into Secret of Mana. It kinda bored me when I downloaded it recently, and the newer Mana games are all pretty much garbage. Especially Children of Mana. I can't believe I actually payed for that game.

[T-Rex]

Guys, this is only 89 years from now. The future, I just can't wait!

http://www.pegasosppc.cz/clanky/amiga_hry/wo2097.jpg

[Chojin]

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/gamerig_080515.jpg

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/gamerig_080515_labels.jpg

I HAVE YOUR WONDERSWAN NOW, FATHOM ZERO, HA HA HA

[T-Rex]

http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/nerd-46422.jpg

"Want some Wonderswan?"

[Fathom Zero]

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/gamerig_080515.jpg

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/gamerig_080515_labels.jpg

I HAVE YOUR WONDERSWAN NOW, FATHOM ZERO, HA HA HA

AWW FUCK. COME ON, SCHIMID.

[Phoenix Gamma]

The Sega Tower! It DOES exist! I thought it was just a myth!

Also, that is the most tangled mass of wires I've ever seen.

[Guitar Woman]

really?

You must take good care of your consoles, or not have more than three.

[Chojin]

I've run most of the wires along the back of those planks. Also, without the flash on a camera you can't really see all those wires toward the back of the racks.

I also need a power base converter for my tower of babil:

http://www.oldschoolgamer.ca/syspics/14-135.jpg

[Chojin]

I'm also using up all the ports on my two 5-console switchboxes and need to get a third ;<

And powersquids are a godsend when you're trying to hook up 15 different bulky AC adapters to the same outlet

[Girl Drink Drunk]

I believe it was Willie that said "assburgers" first.

[Phoenix Gamma]

really?

You must take good care of your consoles, or not have more than three.

NES, SNES, N64, GCN, PS2, and Wii. The only ones hooked up regularly are the PS2 and Wii, and the Wii is usually on a separate TV because I love playing Brawl on my HDTV with Surround Sound.

So yea, I never have much of a mess going on.

[Emu]

speaking of having fathom zero's things, where my persona 2 at

[Fathom Zero]

It's in my possession and will be shipped on Monday! :)

[Emu]

:wank

[Emu]

Chojin, is that Chrono Trigger I see in your SNES?

[Chojin]

yus

[caffman]

What no gamecube?

[Fat_Hippo]

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=26390271&sid=6191106

Jesus Christ, people are starting to try and piss off even Nintendo now. Are people actually getting dumber by the day?

[Chojin]

the gamecube is in the other room in front of the exercise bike ;<

Also I heard about that this morning on Kotaku - America wastes no time in getting its feelings hurt over truth, yet again.

[Emu]

Also I heard about that this morning on Kotaku - America wastes no time in getting its feelings hurt over truth, yet again.

(Pssst -- the little girl is British.)

[Chojin]

O, when it was posted on the BIG K this morning I had the impression that it was an AMERICAN lass in question after all the comments, so I didn't read this incarnation of the article, which apparently has more facts.

YOUR FORGIVENESS, PLEASE

[Guitar Woman]

:lol

[Emu]

It's alright Chojin but I'm gonna expect a three paragraph essay about the importance of reading comprehension if you want to save your grade in this class!

[Phoenix Gamma]

Us Americans sure are fat.

Anywho, the game wasn't meant for 10 year olds (lol casual gaming) so it's not accurate. I'm willing to wager she IS fat, though. Plus, the father said she was "solidly built". Totally a nice way of saying 'fat', or at least "husky".

[Fathom Zero]

I still don't think you're right about Virtual On being the slightest bit different from Custom Robo.

[executioneer]

the bmi is such a broken way to judge a person's fitness, if it had like something to actually detect a person's fat percentage apart from just weight it would be way better

[Phoenix Gamma]

You shouldn't be relying on the Wii to tell you how fat you are in the first place.

[Chojin]

Well if you consider that BMI is only wrong if you're dealing with muscular people, and then think about Wii Fit's target market, it makes a lot more sense.

[Pentegarn]

I just assumed Wii Fit told everyone they were fat. In fact, if I ever get a Wii, my profile (what are they called on the Wii anyway? Mii?) will be named Fatty (Burgertime) McFatass

[T-Rex]

"She is solidly built but not fat."

What is it with England & America in particular when it comes to stuff like this? They won't show a photo because eveyone who sees it will call them on their bullshit.

We're a fat nation full of fat fatties.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/men/article3964936.ece

[Emu]

I got the game, Fathom :hat Thanks :D

also
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/ikrsez/016-3.jpg

Why yes, that is Earthbound ;<

[Pentegarn]

I just sold my Earthbound. Sold a bunch of old school video games I was keeping but not playing. Bought a 360 and 7 games with the money I got from it.

[Fathom Zero]

Glad to know you got it alright.

[Pentegarn]

Here's a bit of news from the world of "Justice is finally served"

http://kotaku.com/5010087/judge-says-jack-thompson-guilty-of-misconduct-during-gta-bully-trials

[executioneer]

http://images.wikia.com/simpsons/images/6/6e/Nelson_Muntz.jpg

haw haw

[WhiteRat]

I just sold my Earthbound. Sold a bunch of old school video games I was keeping but not playing. Bought a 360 and 7 games with the money I got from it.

One of those games is GTA 4, right?

[Pentegarn]

One of those games is GTA 4, right?

Here's the list...

Dead Rising
Blue Dragon
Lost Odessy
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion
GTA IV
Marvel Ultimate Alliance: Special Edition
NCAA Football 2008

[Zomboid]

I really enjoyed ultimate alliance, dead rising, and oblivion. I hope you do too :)

[Pentegarn]

I beat Dead Rising recently, there's something really fun about free roaming zombie genocide :P

[WhiteRat]

You need to get on Live so I can whoop yo azz in NCAA Football.

[Pentegarn]

One of these days, I may move to a place in Columbus that actually has real internet capabilities instead of the psudo cellular internet I have to MacGuyver together :P Then I can get on live

[WhiteRat]

Picked up MK2, NBA Jam TE, Croc, and Bust-A-Move 2 for Saturn off Ebay today. Yesterday I won 6 Sega CD games including Third World War. Finally, 13 years after reading the review for Third World War in Game Players Magazine, i'll be able to play it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_World_War_%28computer_game%29