LET'S ARGUE ABOUT VIDEO GAMES

[bigtimecow]

omg the cover art for that game is probably the greatest cover art ever

[Pentegarn]

...Game Players Magazine...

Wow, there are posters on here who aren't old enough to remember Game Player's Magazine :P Thanks to that mag's robust preview sections, I wanted, but never got to play many a game (likely because most of them never made it past preview stage) such as Baby Boomer, Mondu's Fight Palace, and about half a dozen cool looking Amiga games.

[WhiteRat]

I loved Game Player's Magazine for it's 100+ pages and it's witty writing style. They switched to Ultra Game Players in 96 or 97 and then folded sometime in 98. Even though I stopped reading the mag shortly before the conversion I was still saddened when I heard they went kaput.

[Guitar Woman]

I made a D&D character last night. I feel like an ass

Fourth Edition handbooks got leaked, also, and I think it would be hilarious if we got together in IRC and played a campaign or two.

[liquidstatik]

:lol

[Emu]

I'm DMing a Ravenloft campaign right now!

But we already have a group. :(

[Guitar Woman]

nerd

[Guitar Woman]

I'd never ever play this IRL because I'm the kind of person who has to have roleplaying in his tabletop RPGs, and it takes a really special kind of friend to watch someone pretend to DRIFT TO AND FRO TWIXT THE FEYWILDS and then still want to be friends afterwords. Strangers on the internet are fine, though.

[Chojin]

We play a cyberpunk GURPS campaign on Sundays. I'm a gay former teen pop star with a robot dog.

[executioneer]

lets get together and LARP some mechwarrior

you guys bring the battlemechs ok my locust's in the shop

[WhiteRat]

So I received 6 Sega CD games in the mail today from ebay and I am pleasantly surprised to find out that I now own a factory sealed copy of "INXS Make Your Own Video" (which wasn't mentioned in the auction).

Seriously though, I could care less...it's Make Your Own Video for fuck's sake.:x

[T-Rex]

Games improve hand to eye co-ordination. Did you know that a survey on surgeons found that they did a better job after warming up with a session on a video game?

"I'll remove your spleen in a second Mr. Johnson. Hey, where's the gatling gun?!"

[Phoenix Gamma]

Old study, but yea. Another one is that driving games help drivers, since it teaches them to watch their surroundings and not the back of the car in front of them. I guess that explains why I've never had an accident yet.

[Guitar Woman]

http://gamezone.sayswap.com/attachments/54752/Ninten_thumb.png

His face is a question mark. I'm never going to be able to play this game the same way again.

[bigtimecow]

i love earthbound, but mother sucks. so fuck ninten

[Guitar Woman]

I thought it was pretty good, especially considering the hardware limitations.

How they managed to make a NES game that creepy and multi-layered I'll probably never know.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Still think they should have made Mother 64( 3-d sequel for N64).

[Guitar Woman]

Mother 64 was just going to be Mother 3, anyway.

I'm actually glad it's had more time to cook, it looks fantastic.

[bigtimecow]

i played a good hour of the japanese rom with a translation guide and it's quite fun. the music element of the combat system is well executed and accurate.

oh, and i found out that there is a visual boy advance edition for the wii... so mother 3 can be played on your wii...

oh

my

god

[Lobo Tommy]

Mother 3 will never be the same as Earthbound in my eyes. Earthbound is my favorite game ever.

[dddddddddd]

i think its funny how people call this earthbound 3 when the nes and snes games where basically re makes of one another

[bigtimecow]

i'll assume you only said that to piss someone off, because they are not even close when it comes to storyline

[Phoenix Gamma]

i think its funny how people call this earthbound 3 when the nes and snes games where basically re makes of one another

Must...resist urge...to correct typos...

Whether or not the second game is a remake is up for debate, though I'm fairly certain anyone who claims Mother 2 is a remake never played the original and is just talking out of their ass.

I'll make you a deal though: you convince either Rockstar or EA to fix the numbering of GTA or The Sims, and I'll convince Nintendo to change Mother's numbering. I think that's a fair trade.

[MetalMilitia]

GTA is named correctly.

[bigtimecow]

indeed they are. all the numbered ones take place in liberty city, and the others are named otherwise because they take place in different cities

[Phoenix Gamma]

GTA2 takes place in (I shit you not) "Anywhere City", presumably next to Some Place Town and Middle-Of-Nowhere-berg.

It's semantics, sure, but it's my semantics :(

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Mother 64 was just going to be Mother 3, anyway.

I'm actually glad it's had more time to cook, it looks fantastic.


The preview I had in my gamepro from ten years ago had the entire cast of Mother 2 returning as playable chars.


After playing through Earthbound again I began to question some things. I used to play the game a lot when I was younger, especially overnights without the lights on.

After using the PSI attacks on the replay recently I don't know how I never got epilepsy from this game.

[HellBeast]

Although I don't own a Wii I've had fun playing at my friends. But I wouldn't go out and buy one or anything. It's like with their games you play through them, maybe again on another difficulty and then thats it. Personally I need to buy games that I know I can play for 80+ hours and still go back to it in maybe a year or so.

[HellBeast]

lol And i know kust saying that dosent make much sense but that has been bugging me for a while and i needed to get it out of my system.

[Fathom Zero]

I haven't really played any console games recently. I think I'm edging back into my movies over games phase. I still play PC games, though.

Also, I've sworn myself off buying another console game until I move out of this hell-hole. I'm not having another game broken or stolen.

[Guitar Woman]

It's like with their games you play through them, maybe again on another difficulty and then thats it.
Uh, isn't that what every single game ever made is like

[bigtimecow]

i guess he means that they don't have replay value otherwise

but :lol

[Phoenix Gamma]

Yea, he's talking about replay value.

Although I don't own a Wii I've had fun playing at my friends. But I wouldn't go out and buy one or anything. It's like with their games you play through them, maybe again on another difficulty and then thats it. Personally I need to buy games that I know I can play for 80+ hours and still go back to it in maybe a year or so.


Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Also Mario Galaxy. Maybe Mario Kart Wii if you're a masochist. Eventually, it'll hit the stride the DS hit.

It's actually really sneaky when you think about how Nintendo is working now:

http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html

Recommended reading if you've got the time. Crazy long, but well written.

[Guitar Woman]

Mario Galaxy is terrible!

I played Mario Kart Wii like twice and haven't touched it since.

Brawl is ok, but I can't help but feel that they killed part of what made me love Melee. Not sure what that is, but I know it's gone.



I find I'm sharing Fathom's lack of interest in consoles lately. There aren't any noteworthy Wii games on the horizon; they dumbed down Alone in the Dark a shit ton, although I'm pretty confident that the Wii could have performed all the fancy in-game physics it had. I mean, it only looks a few steps above RE4 anyway. I was sort of excited for The Conduit, but I looked at the dev team's production history and then I wasn't.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Mario Galaxy is terrible!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/PGamma/idontthinksotim.png

Shit sucks.

[Guitar Woman]

Whatever, Ondore.

[Fathom Zero]

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7345/566pxcoinsubstitutepogscm4.jpg

[Phoenix Gamma]

Pogs are so rad.

[HellBeast]

Thats sort of what I meant. Like I play elder scrolls oblivion and morrowind and other long assed games like that. And you can play those forever because of all the content in the game. Even some classic rpg's have replay value because after a few years of beating them you get this feeling like you should go back and play through them again. but games like no more heroes or mario galaxy on the wii just dont have the same effect. I'm not saying the wii only has those type of games *cough* assasins creed *cough* but it seems like they are trying to produce as many 20-30 hr games as possible instead of something with 80+. I dunno maybe its just me. I prefer games that I can become addicted to for months at a time but isnt that a sign of a truly great game?......well it could be that or i could have some strange disorder lol.

[HellBeast]

Oh and most of what I play are console games. I'm not the best with computers so tht way when I buy a 360 game I know its going to work in my 360......unless of course it messes up again.....i dont wanna talk about it.

[Phoenix Gamma]

To be fair, a game with 80+ hours only comes to a console once every so often. We may have just not seen it yet.

[HellBeast]

Oh i know. don't get me wrong im not getting in the console vs computer fight or anything because people pick a different one depending on what they are looking for. But there are a few games that have just hooked me. ive spent over 500 hrs on oblivion (also on comp i know) and i dont even know how many on morrowind. and a few games here and there that i became addicted to. like twisted metal 4. i dont know why but i loved that thing. but in terms of games i dont think Wii has done this yet. In 5 yrs i dont think people are going to be talking about smash bros brawl or galaxy or any other well known wii game at this time.

[Guitar Woman]

Brawl? Yeah, they will.

Don't get me wrong, I think Morrowind is a great game. Fucking Everest of a learning curve coupled with the inability to do anything until you hit about level 15 stopped me from enjoying it at first, but it is excellent.

But a game really doesn't have to be a thousand hour open ended EXTRAVAGANZA for it to be memorable. Resident Evil, Mario 64, Half Life, etc, all remembered and loved, and none of them are more than 15 hours long.

Mario 64, mabye, I haven't played it in a while.

[HellBeast]

dont get me wrong lol there are a bunch of games that are incredibly short that i love. like the ones you mentioned. I wouldnt want every game to be that long. but for some reason im attracted to games that i can mess around with for a while. like right now im playing start wars battlefront 2 just cause i can do so much in the instant action category.

[Phoenix Gamma]

I'm pretty sure people will be talking about Galaxy and Brawl 5 years from now. Smash has a rabid fanbase that played Melee nonstop for 7 years, and Galaxy's level design and gameplay concept are something you don't see much on the same console.

(Actually, I think Galaxy would be talked about more just because of the gameplay innovations. But apparently some people don't like them.)

If only modding were possible for console games. WiFi Metroid or Super Paper Mario mods would be rad. Also, headtracking. Someone really needs to get on the ball with headtracking.

[Guitar Woman]

Mario Galaxy isn't innovative or interesting in the slightest, when will people realize this

[Fathom Zero]

People talking about Brawl five years from now? You've got to be shitting me. The only reason that it'd be talked about for another five years is because another SSB won't be released until Nintendo's next console.

[Guitar Woman]

I'm not sure if hardcore Brawl fans count as people, but they will be.

[Phoenix Gamma]

I already pointed out that the die-hard fans would be the ones talking about it till the next game, but okay.

@GW: Name me another game that explores the use of spherical planets as levels and has rad stuff like the Dark Matter and Splatter Matter stages, because I'd love to play it.

[Fathom Zero]

Clank's giant levels in Rachet & Clank: Going Commando. Of course, even then it wasn't new.

The PSN game Super Stardust follows the same formula.

[bigtimecow]

edit: that's what i get for leaving threads open in tabs before responding to them

[Guitar Woman]

Psychonauts has a few topsy turvy levels if I remember right

And so does Megaman 3 :<

[HellBeast]

i love brawl but its just new characters, new lvls, and a shit version of a campaign. the cinimatics are ok but that dosent save it. it wasn't very innovative. meanwhile galaxy was very innovative....just not in a cool way. i just want games that are innovative but still keep some of the original type of gameplay. that way its new enough to spend time with but not so new that it isnt even the same game anymore.

[bigtimecow]

brawl is way more than new characters and new levels. have you even played it? or, have you played ssb, then ssbm, then ssbb to compare?

i kinda see your point about galaxy, but it does keep the original type of gameplay (enter world, collect stars, fight bowser). the levels weren't nearly as open ended as say sm64 (some completely linear), but to me it seems like all they really added was some new power ups and a crazy gravity twist that i'm pretty sure wasn't done to the extent it was in galaxy in any other game.

[HellBeast]

actually i have played brawl. dont get me wrong i would rather play brawl than melee but there just isnt as much of a difference. and yes galaxy does stick to the stars/bowser thing but its still not the same. when super mario 64 came out they used the new 3-d gameplay to innovate the game. in galaxy they tried to use the new motion capture as the innovative element to the game but ended up making it crappy. id rather see some ne type of mario games, like mario rpg and the paper marios except with different genres. and no not a mario fps. maybe a mario rts? i dont know how but it would be cool. harvest coins as currency, defeat bowsers army with yours.

[bigtimecow]

i can't argue with a new mario rpg ;)

ANYWAY, ONTO NEW THINGS

i watched a commercial for E3 on G4 and it was like "WHOA RESISTANCE 2, FALLOUT 3, RESIDENT EVIL 5"

FUCKING NUMBERS SEQUELSASDHASUH I WISH ORIGINAL GAMES STILL AMDE IT IN THE WORLD

[Guitar Woman]

People liked Resistance enough to warrant a second one?

[MetalMilitia]

New IPs are difficult to get funding for.

[bigtimecow]

i said i wish :/

[HellBeast]

i cant wait for fallout 3. read a review of it in oxm magazine. looks pretty sweet to me.

[Guitar Woman]

So I'm ranked 6th best player today in Strikers :picklehat

OUT OF LIKE A THOUSAND THAT IS IMPRESSIVE

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I still haven't played strikers. Can you say it's any different than Mega Man soccer?

[Guitar Woman]

I have no idea, as I've never played Megaman Soccer, but whenever I play Strikers I completely forget that I'm playing soccer with Mario characters. This is a god damn GLADIATOR'S ARENA and the other man is the living embodiment of douchebaggery that I have to mercilessly beat down using any means necessary. It's also one of the more brutally difficult games I've ever played. Certainly the most enraging, since the slightest slip up will often times fuck you up the bum immediately.

The basic gameplay boils down to an advanced round of hot-potato that is really satisfying in execution; you pass the ball between the members of your team to build up a "charge" that gives it a higher chance of scoring when shot at the AI controlled goalie. There are also a number of trickshots you can do, due to either shoddy or brilliant programming. I'm not sure which.

You get a team of four players, one captain as a major character from the various mario games, and three sidekicks as lesser denizens of the mushroom kingdom (Toad, Hammer Bros., Shyguy, etc.). When in posession of the ball, each character is able to do a special move by using the tackle button, and these range from incredibly useful (teleportation, flipping over enemy players) to complete wastes of effort. Captains have several different feats at their disposal; the normal deke, a character-specific item, and the megastrike. A megastrike happens when a captain charges up a ball long enough for a Tiger Woods PGA Tour esque shot meter to appear, which can yeild up to 6 shots on a goal at incredibly high speeds. This feature is virtually useless after a while, since if they don't take you down when you're charging or fiddling with the meter, most people are good enough to block anything you can throw at them. Sometimes MAGIC happens, though, and you'll score just enough to get out of an embarrasing defeat. So yes, it's a good thing to use when you can.

There's a lot of strategy in team choice and placement, and all of the captains are incredibly well balanced. Picking who to play really only boils down to which character you like, rather than which character is the best.

The online play is great, aside from a bullshit matchmaking system that guarentees new players are completely alienated until they get good enough in the single player mode, and gives you the choice of solo play against someone else or bringing a buddy in for a 2 on 2 match.

Wii functionality is kept to a minimum; you really only have to use the wiimote when you want to tackle someone else, done by being in the general area of the person you want to ruin and shaking the remote, or when you want to block a megastrike, which plays out like a lightgun style minigame; markers representing the shots made appear on the screen at three different speeds, depending on how well your opponent did in the strike meter, and all you have to do is point the remote appropriately and press A to block. Simple, but not always easy. When in co-op play, the choice for who blocks is random, and since there are multiple goals to be scored this is a big fucking deal.

Also, if the above summary seems like a lot of shit to remember, imagine having to do all of it at the speed of goddamn sound and you'll have a good idea of how overwhelming the game can be for new players.





tl;dr The game is incredibly fun, deep, and difficult.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

It kind of sounds like Megaman soccer. I wouldn't recommend playing it now though. 10 years ago it was a lot of fun. I might go rent Strikers on sunday though to check it out.

[Guitar Woman]

I downloaded Megaman Soccer out of curiosity and couldn't even figure out how to move with the ball :<

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

:(

[Guitar Woman]

I don't know, my Flashman guy wouldn't move, so I just ended up passing it all over the place

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

That's no good. Does it look pretty dated? Nostalgia is funny sometimes.

[Schimid]

I loved Megaman Soccer :|

Chojin and I are the probably best team online in Strikers (we now have SIX doubles-specific tricks :D ). I used to be at least in the top 20 of North American players. I played too much Brawl and I'm on a three-series losing streak against people that matter, but still average around a 10:1 ratio on ranked.

On the plus side, I beat Psycofoot a few nights ago and he's 240 - 2 on ranked. :D

GW, you should play again with us sometime. It's cool that you're playing the game like a giant round of keep-away now, it's essentially what I do too. Gimme your FC. :O

We still hate boo-dekers by the way, and there are no good players in doubles that aren't complete assholes.

Still play as Daisy, you louse? What's your team?

EDIT - Also, the characters aren't balanced. Not even close. Boo is by far the best sidekick in the game, DK can perform olympian feats of athleticism and while some captains can theoretically make a goal with their special, Daisy's is by far the easiest.

[Guitar Woman]

Yes, and I've also got some skill as Wario. I love all his victory dances :<

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I'm really still not that great at the game; I only got on the top 10 yesterday because I couldn't stop playing the fucking thing. I think I had around 80 games, 35 of them wins, 45 losses. I usually do way worse than that, with an average of 2 defeats for every victory.

[Schimid]

It's cool that you can appreciate it even if you're not winning every single game. It's also real cool that you're picking up Wario too. Everyone I play online only picks Daisy, DK or Diddy. I think Wario makes more groundshots and Jr. makes more air, so just work on charging on the ground and you'll be golden. You're more open for that half-court chip though, so stay sharp :O

I'll give you my FC when I get home, still on vacation till tomorrow night.

[Guitar Woman]

Everyone online picks DK and nothing but Boos for sidekicks and I hate the shit out of it :<

I just really like Daisy, I'm not playing her because of the Crystal Smash goal or other secrets yet to be discovered. It is useful, though!

Also, part of my problem might be that I never modify my shots or passes to go through the air; I do everything on the ground because most of the time I've forgotten air stuff even exists. I tried Jr. as a second for a while and was horrible, that could be why.




EDIT: And ok, yeah, A few captains have unfair advantages and Boo is just plain STUPID. DK players are usually fagmosexuals, but the only captain who actually really bothers me is Petey. FUCK Petey.

What I meant by "balanced" was that it's possible to become good with any captain in the game, provided you use the right strategy. A few games against yesterday's Striker of the Day I had about half an hour ago made me think that I'm even better with Wario than with Daisy, which is a little retarded since I've played as him for like 2 games :<

Mabye my keep-away tactics just work better with a heavy captain?


Also, while it is ridiculously easy to score with Daisy's special, I think that's balanced somewhat by the fact that I NEVER FUCKING GET THE GODDAMN THING. Seriously, there must be a 1 in 20 chance of getting Crystal Smash, and most of the time it's the exact opposite of what I need.

I'm generally just a really unlucky guy, though, so mabye it's me and nobody else that this happens to.

[Guitar Woman]

Oh, Voltage, let me also mention that Strikers is home to wonderful moments such as THIS:

I search for an opponent in Ranked mode and am paired with someone who named his Mii "MADEUQUIT." I was prepared for him to be a complete douchebag, and I was right; 2 Boos, a Hammer Bros. and Waluigi as the captain. He caught me off guard the first game and did literally nothing but Boo Dekes while sailing around the field in haphazard patterns to confuse my tackling. Second game, I come back from a 2 point trail and beat him in sudden death with Daisy's Crystal Smash trick. Naturally, I made him watch all the replays.

Third game, he does the same as the last two, and gets two up on me with boo dekes. I respond with Hammer Bros. sinking it from half court and a Toad jump at the last second, which sends us into what I can only describe as the longest and most intense sudden death ever. We both must have made 5 fucking shots on the goal in the 2 or so minutes it lasted; we were frantically tackling the shit out of each other, trying and trying and trying to score. I got denied two Crystal Smash goals and a Toad jump, and he failed about 3 seperate Boo dekes and a Hammer Bros. skillshot. My heart was RACING. Finally, I pass my ball to Boo so I can set up Hammer Bros. and realize that I've got a completely clear line to the goalie. I glide over and effortlessly deke the ball in.



He disconnected. :>

[Phoenix Gamma]

I fucking hate WiFi just because disconnecting assholes can really damper your fun. 'Specially in Brawl, where you can't have less than 4 people in random play.

I'm glad Mario Kart Wii did it well enough so that I know Nintendo isn't TOTALLY clueless about online play. Now if only there was a little more balance with items. Then I'd be assed to log on once in awhile.

[Guitar Woman]

You can have 3 people in Random play in Brawl, but not 2. Which was a shame for the millisecond it stopped lagging enough for me to connect to a few people, since I came across some really skilled players and wanted to TEST MY MIGHT against them without the interference of bots. Anyway, when they disconnect, they're supposed to be immediately replaced by bots so the game flow isn't broken.

Also, people who D/C in Strikers just make me laugh all over the place because of the hokey elevator music that plays and the idea of them being enraged enough to quit. Sure, I don't get a win on my counter or the +10 points I should have, but it's totally worth it.

Also, I still haven't played Mario Kart Wii for more than 5 minutes. Mabye when I finish my VICTORY GLASS of champaign I'll take you on.


Edit- Scratch that offer, I fucking hate this game.

[Schimid]

Nice work. Chojin and I face tons and tons of those queers. The best part was making a person named DontQuit disconnect when we ran a seven point train on him with a repeated offence (we'd score, he'd get the ball, I'd attack his back Boo with Waluigi and chip the ball in, six times in a row) and after he realized what was going on, the fact that he actually responded left us befuddled and wide open for a Boo-deke. He got it.

Afterwards, I blocked for Chojin and he completed a Boo-deke, as is our custom for those assholes. We watched it, he left halfway through.

We've also found the most satisfying goal in the game. Mario is our secondary captain and if you do a Titan Chip with Mario or Luigi while they're big, it'll usually go in. The real fun starts when it doesn't, though--the goalie will sometimes grab the ball and the opponent realizes that he can't throw it up or down for fear of trampling. So instead they decide the best move is to clear it. Mario performs a heroic leap and dunks the ball into the net, completely clearing the goalie. It only hasn't gone in once, and when it didn't it just hit the top post, bouncing upward and making the goalie dive into his own goal for an easy completion.

Then you watch it.

[Guitar Woman]

man, NOBODY plays doubles matches online :<

Also my sister is the worst fucking doubles partner ever and I'm never playing with her again

TACKLE HIM YOU RETARD

NO NO WAIT I HAVE AN IDEA

*TOADJUMP*

[Zomboid]

Yup. You're still fucking dorks.

[bigtimecow]

oh my god zomboid you are right! this is a gaming forum and it's full of dorks!

[Guitar Woman]

Zomboid knows he's not hardcore enough.

[MetalMilitia]

Since when could guitar women edit her posts? >:

[Guitar Woman]

Shh, you'll make me lose it again!

[Zomboid]

oh my god zomboid you are right! this is a gaming forum and it's full of dorks!
There's liking games, and then there's the disgusting level that schimid is at. I fucking swear, him and chojin dress up like mario and luigi and spoon.

I only read one of gw's posts up there, but I included him just to be safe. Also, fuck you.

[HellBeast]

i love video games a shit load and if that make me a dork to then fine. thats just the label on ppl who love video games. ya know, like when men like bum sex they are labeled as fags, right zomboid?

[bigtimecow]

given your signature and everything else about you, i'll assume you own an xbox

if you are offended by what i am implying then you are no more of a dork than we are! :lol

edit: this is directed at zomboid not hellbeast

[MetalMilitia]

i love video games a shit load and if that make me a dork to then fine. thats just the label on ppl who love video games. ya know, like when men like bum sex they are labeled as fags, right zomboid?

Wtfuck is this fag shit. >:

[bigtimecow]

:lol :middleschool

[Zomboid]

i love video games a shit load and if that make me a dork to then fine. thats just the label on ppl who love video games. ya know, like when men like bum sex they are labeled as fags, right zomboid?
Yeah, that's the kind of witty retort I'd expect from a newfie. Keep on dishing out those Grade A insults, me buddy.

Cow- Yeah, I'm extremely offended. You really know where to hit me where it counts; my xbox ownership.

Nerds, look. I love video games too. I consider it my #1 pass time, but I think that when you go from enjoying a game to fucking in-depth discussion on stats, tactics, etc (especially in relatively simple games like mario soccer and smash bros, schimid), you're crossing that line into unadulterated faggotry.

edit: I forgot to mention, cow. I have a wii too, but I like to play games that don't suck, aren't aimed at kids, and have good online play. So you can see why I enjoy my 360 while my wii sits in the corner until I have a buddy over to play smash bros with. Or if I feel like playing something on the virtual console. PS - Fuck you wiiware.

[bigtimecow]

IT'S CALLED META GAME YOU ASSHOLE >:

[Zomboid]

I don't know what part of my post that refers to.

[Guitar Woman]

Strikers is no way in hell simple

I couldn't even figure out how to score beyond spamming shots and hoping they went in until like 3 hours after I bought it :<

[bigtimecow]

I don't know what part of my post that refers to.

BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A FUCKIGN DORK LIKE ME >: >: >: >: >: >:

[Guitar Woman]

Likewise Zomboid I like to play games that aren't generic shooters aimed at the frat brothers of Phi Beta Jackass which is why I haven't picked up a 360 yet

[Zomboid]

The Pokémon phenomenon debuts on WiiWare with My Pokémon Ranch, a game that lets you watch as Pokémon and Miis interact with each other for the first time. Enjoy the relaxing ranch life by viewing your ranch and its Pokémon, taking pictures and sending those pictures to your friends via the Wii Message Board. The more Pokémon and Miis you bring to your ranch, the more fun it becomes.
My Pokémon Ranch can be linked with the Nintendo DS Pokémon Diamond and Pokémon Pearl Game Cards to deposit the Pokémon you’ve caught in these games in your ranch. You can deposit a maximum of 1,000 Pokémon from up to eight different game cards. Make your ranch livelier by playing with your friends and family.
Cost: 1,000



10 bucks to... do what? What do you do in this? Let your created people play with pokemon? Thank you nintendo, for another revolutionary step forward for the gaming industry.

[Guitar Woman]

Mabye it's like Monster Rancher?

That game was pretty sweet.

[bigtimecow]

HI I'M SEVEN YEARS OLD AND I REALLY WISH I COULD PLAY AN INNOVATIVE GAME THAT TAKES "another revolutionary step forward for the gaming industry" GOD I WISH I HAD THAT

[Guitar Woman]

So this promo pic for The Conduit has made me miss 90's PC shooters.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/The_Conduit_Logo.PNG

[Guitar Woman]

You weren't even born in the 90's, Guitar Woman. :rolleyes

[bigtimecow]

lol you said it not us :lol

[MetalMilitia]

SHE ADMITTED IT

[Zomboid]

Did you watch your monsters play with humans in that game? Because from the sounds of it, that's all you do here. That, and hook it up with your other nintendo products to enjoy more bullshit.

I love how you always claim the 360 has nothing but shooters. I'm not even going to bother starting up that old argument again because it's pointless. There are a lot of great games from different genres on it and it's as simple as that.

And again with the frat thing? Are you really such an insecure little basement dweller that you feel the need to take weak little jabs at the people you seem to think you're so above? You're not deep and misunderstood, you're not smarter than the vast majority of the guys who are in frats and enjoy binge drinking, and you're never going to have sex with a woman without paying for it.

[Guitar Woman]

Are you really such an insecure little basement dweller that you feel the need to take weak little jabs at the people you seem to think you're so above? You're not deep and misunderstood, you're not smarter than the vast majority of the guys who are in frats and enjoy binge drinking, and you're never going to have sex with a woman without paying for it.


Time for another round of Spot the Irony!

[Zomboid]

HI I'M SEVEN YEARS OLD AND I REALLY WISH I COULD PLAY AN INNOVATIVE GAME THAT TAKES "another revolutionary step forward for the gaming industry" GOD I WISH I HAD THAT

Somehow, I get the feeling you'll be getting the game anyway. I can't imagine the mentality of weird, ugly artist wannabes and little kids would be too terribly different.

Maaaaaaan I wish we would get mario paint for the wii!!!! I could use my wiimote to paint and stuff. That's the direction I want video games to head in. Thank you, nintendo :)

[Guitar Woman]

For the record, no, I'm not universally misunderstood.

I think it's just you and/or Gadzooks. But he's funny about it.

[bigtimecow]

http://www.ugo.com/movies/dont-sweat-it/movies/images/revenge-of-the-nerds.jpg

[Guitar Woman]

Also, you best not be talking shit about Mario Paint, I will FUCK YOU UP.

[Zomboid]

Time for another round of Spot the Irony!
I have friends, I have a great paying summer job, and I'm going back to college in the fall.

You have no real life friends, you are an awkward little shit who probably couldn't even make it at a mcdonald's, and you've been in the psych ward.

Yeah, it's the pot calling the kettle black alright.

[bigtimecow]

OH MY GOD GUITAR WOMAN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO

oh man i have friends and that makes me THE MAN. i have a summer job that makes me THE MAN. i'm going to college and that makes me THE MAN

YOU ARE THE MAN ZOMBOID

THE MAN

[Zomboid]

Also, you best not be talking shit about Mario Paint, I will FUCK YOU UP.
I don't see too many bulbous nosed dj connors so if I see an especially frail looking one trying to look inconspicuous, I'll remember that.

[Guitar Woman]

I was referring to the part where you told me that I continue to make weak jabs at you because I think I'm a better person, and then you proceeded to tell me that I am an idiot who has no friends and will never have sex

[Guitar Woman]

I have to explain my simplistic posts to you and you're calling me the idiot?

[bigtimecow]

oh and straw man argument

[Zomboid]

Thanks, dude. I thought what made you the man was spending your time trying a bunch of different pizzas, informing people on the internet about your plans to make a big supper for yourself and/or your fat, disgusting lady friend (and then posting pictures of the aforementioned supper), and defending other zit faced losers.

But again, thanks!

[Zomboid]

I was referring to the part where you told me that I continue to make weak jabs at you because I think I'm a better person, and then you proceeded to tell me that I am an idiot who has no friends and will never have sex
I understood your post. I am a better person. I thought the following post explained why.

[Guitar Woman]

Also, no, I will probably never have sex, as I'm what people who know what long words mean refer to as misogynistic.

Incredibly misogynistic.

[bigtimecow]

i spent my time trying a bunch of different pizzas with MY FRIENDS. i made a big supper for myself because i have money from my SUMMER JOB. i go to COLLEGE with zit faced losers.

sounds familiar? :lol

[Guitar Woman]

I understood your post. I am a better person. I thought the following post explained why.
Because you're boinking some blonde slut and pouring Busch down your gullet, then telling everyone on the internet about it while fiercely arguing with a 17 year old about whether the Wii is a good console or not?

Fuckin' A, man, live the dream.

[bigtimecow]

Also, no, I will probably never have sex, as I'm what people who know what long words mean refer to as misogynistic.

Incredibly misogynistic.

come on gw, sex makes you THE MAN : peerpressure

[Zomboid]

i spent my time trying a bunch of different pizzas with MY FRIENDS. i made a big supper for myself because i have money from my SUMMER JOB. i go to COLLEGE with zit faced losers.

sounds familiar? :lol
Yeah, I'm sure your yellowcard t-shirt wearing friends are real winners too. Hey, did you bring em to meet your other friends, eric and emily? You guys could have a swell time together.

I spend my summer job money on tuition, video games, trips, and other fun stuff. I think I'll take a cue from you though and say "WHAT THE HECK! I'M GONNA MAKE MYSELF A BIG SUPPER AND POST SOME PICS ONLINE!"

People at my school aren't zit faced losers for the most part. Some are, yeah, but that's to be expected. I usually just make fun of people like that for being different and/or ugly.

[Guitar Woman]

Is everyone in your town as ignorant as you?

[bigtimecow]

YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT MY FRIENDS >:

and man, i wish i went to your school so i could be like all your cool friends :(

[Guitar Woman]

Is everyone in the WORLD like this?

Am I part of a group of select people who aren't mouth breathing idiots?

[bigtimecow]

we are missing the point of this thread, like, a lot

i'm sorry Z, can you forgive me?

[Zomboid]

Also, no, I will probably never have sex, as I'm what people who know what long words mean refer to as misogynistic.

Incredibly misogynistic.
Oh yeah, you're a real scholar for knowing that one. You're an idiot. I treat plenty of girls like shit and sometimes they hate me for it, and other times they laugh, call me an asshole, and get off on it or something. I don't know. What I do know, is that claiming you won't get laid because you're misogynistic is a load of shit.

[MetalMilitia]

Yeah let's argue about video games. I think the Wii is shit, who's with me?

[Guitar Woman]

It's less about me hating women and more about me having standards, really.

I just hate everyone who doesn't meet them, which is a lot of people.

[bigtimecow]

Yeah let's argue about video games. I think the Wii is shit, who's with me?

i disagree! but i can understand your point of view!

[Guitar Woman]

I enjoy my Wii. It's got a great bunch of games, like Mario Strikers Charged and No More Heroes!

[Zomboid]

Yeah gw, there's plenty of people like me in the world. Thing is, you're not some genius who's just different than us and will SHOW THEM ALL someday. You're just a sad, weird little kid who is an emotional cripple. But yeah, keep thinking of the internet as your sanctuary. It'll probably save you from having the shit kicked out of you a few times when you're caught staring at girls in public.

Enjoy life!

[MetalMilitia]

The thing about Wii that I don't like is it has too many games about raising horses and not enough historically accurate war sims.

[Zomboid]

I'm with you, metal! I think my wii is a piece of shit and I only use it for the occasional game of super smash bros or the virtual console!

[bigtimecow]

oh come on, a historically accurate war sim?

show me

[Guitar Woman]

Likewise, I think the 360 is for 5 year olds and stupids

Special credit goes out to Mass Effect for being the most boring politics simulator in human history

[Zomboid]

I hate to quote ED for anything, but after chojin and gw internet memed the shit out of the xbox 360 achievement kid thing, I feel it's acceptable:

Best selling Wii games as of December 2007:[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best_selling_computer_and_video_games#Wii)

Wii Sports - MINIGAMES
Wii Play - MINIGAMES
Wii fit (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Wii_fit) - MINIGAMES and fat loser's favourite past time
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - LAWL, it's a Gamecube (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Gamecube) game.
Mario Party 8 - MINIGAMES
Super Mario Galaxy (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Mario) - OMG! I LOVE MARIO!
Wario Ware: Smooth Moves - MICROGAMES
Super Paper Mario (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Mario) - MOAR FUCKING MARIO!
Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree - MINIGAMES
Mario Strikers Charged (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Mario) - HOLY FUCKING JESUS CHRIST ON A POGO STICK! I CAN'T GET ENOUGH MARIO!
Rayman Raving Rabbids (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Ubisoft) - MINIGAMES
Red Steel - 5.5
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption -Holy shit it's a sequel, get in my Wii!
Resident Evil 4 - LOL (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Lol), it's another Gamecube (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Gamecube) port.

[MetalMilitia]

Guitar women, the day you actually play a game before providing us with a "review" is the day I start giving a shit about your opinion.

bigtimecow: I don't actually think "historically accurate war sim" is the right wording but I fucking love Company of Heroes and DoD:S because of all the realistic weapons and tactics.

[bigtimecow]

it's not ALL about money zomboid :rollseyes

[bigtimecow]

Guitar women, the day you actually play a game before providing us with a "review" is the day I start giving a shit about your opinion.

bigtimecow: I don't actually think "historically accurate war sim" is the right wording but I fucking love Company of Heroes and DoD:S because of all the realistic weapons and tactics.

i'm just kidding anyway; i hate the shit out of war games for the most part >:

[Guitar Woman]

By "realistic" you mean BROWN AND GREY ENVIRONMENTS right

[Zomboid]

No, but it's a pretty good indication of what the wii is popular for. Minigames and mario. Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!

I wish I'd gotten my gamecube earlier than I did though. Whenever I see those big bins of games, it seems like I missed out on a lot of good games.

[bigtimecow]

i can't get past the gamecube controller, i really can't. but from what i've seen there are some nice games that i wish i could use, say, the classic controller with

[Guitar Woman]

You didn't play Killer 7, right?

I'd suggest getting on that if you enjoyed Silent Hill 2 at all


I also like the Gamecube controller, I don't see what everyone's problem with it is. :<

[Girl Drink Drunk]

Anbody else think that the Gamecube controller resembles some cheap Fisher Price toy?

[bigtimecow]

the joystick is shit, that's for sure

i'd rather use an n64 controller :o

[MetalMilitia]

By "realistic" you mean BROWN AND GREY ENVIRONMENTS right

Interesting fact: At about age 2 I was mentally developed enough to find something interesting without it containing bright pretty colours.

[Guitar Woman]

So was I, but then I realized that it looked like shit.

[bigtimecow]

and GW, he was talking about weapons and tactics, not environments STUPID

[Guitar Woman]

Oh yeah, tactical combat is great

I can't wait to spend all my time hiding behind cover waiting for my health to regenerate

[Zomboid]

I used to hate that controller. It's not very comfortable in my hands, the C-Stick takes some time to get used to, and the Z button is in a shitty spot. I don't mind it now though :\

Also, GW - Would you kindly stop editing your posts?

[bigtimecow]

right? HEALTH BARS GOD

[Guitar Woman]

Mabye if you'd remove your head from your ass slightly

[Zomboid]

Can I expect a completely different post to be there in a few minutes when you realize how ineffective that one is?

[bigtimecow]

Maybe*

i got your back gw :love

[MetalMilitia]

So was I, but then I realized that it looked like shit.

So what would you have the developers do? When an artillery barrage hits a field it should erupt buttercups and rainbows?

[Guitar Woman]

I miss surrealism in my games.


God bless Suda 51, that lion of a man.

[bigtimecow]

a surrealism sim? :o

oh MAN

[Zomboid]

Isn't your skewed perception of reality exciting enough? What DID those psychiatrists do to you?

[Guitar Woman]

Hey, a mental health joke!

I'd be more floored by that if you hadn't cracked similar ones like 1000 other times!

[bigtimecow]

JESUS ZOMBOID STRAW MAN ARGUMENT (OH AND GW EDITED HIS POST OMG FUCK HIM RIGHT)

SO ANYWAY LET'S GET BACK TO ARGUING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES AGAIN

[MetalMilitia]

Oh yeah, tactical combat is great

I can't wait to spend all my time hiding behind cover waiting for my health to regenerate

This is exactly what annoys me about you Guitar Woman. You make out like you know everything about games while actually having no-clue what the fuck you're talking about.

If you're playing company of heroes against a good opponent it doesn't matter how fast you can move your chubby little fingers around the keyboard. You need to think about what you're doing and have some strategy to overcome whatever they throw at you.

With regards to tactical shooters the same thing applies. You need to plan you attack, outfit your team appropriately and know how to deal with the various enemy units. If you run blindly into it with no clue what you're doing then yeah - you probably will get stuck behind a rock waiting to die.

[Zomboid]

Oh fuck off. Of course arguing will lead to personal attacks. That's just the way it works. You can either ignore it, acknowledge it, or just do one or the other AND continue with arguing video games. It's not too difficult, so don't strain your nerdy little selves getting all angry about it.

[Zomboid]

GEARS OF WAR 2 LOOKS FUN WHAT DO YOU THINK MM?

[Guitar Woman]

Well, no arguing won't lead to personal attacks if you have any idea how to respectfully disagree with your fellow man.

You'd make a good president, Zomboid.

[bigtimecow]

WELL MM, WAHT DO YOU THINK HUH?

[Guitar Woman]

That depends, have they changed GoW2 completely from the first one and made it not horrible?

[MetalMilitia]

Yeah I think it looks good. I must admit I never finished the first one though. I got as far as some boss dude with a load of bat-like creatures flying about him and then after a few failed attempts at beating him I gave up. :(

[Guitar Woman]

Also, it took me a while to realize Company of Heroes was that RTS game, as WW2 games tend to blend together for me (especially names involving the formula [group simile] of [valiant soldier simile]). While I'm not a fan of RTS games, that one is really, really good.

[bigtimecow]

the only real RTS game i can say i've played and loved over the years was warcraft 2

that's an RTS, right? :(

[Guitar Woman]

That pretty much defines the genre

[Fathom Zero]

No.

Command and Conquer does.

[Guitar Woman]

I wouldn't know!

[Girl Drink Drunk]

I'm pretty sure Dune II for the PC and Genesis was the first RTS.

[Fathom Zero]

I wouldn't know!

THAT'S EVIDENT. >:

[executioneer]

I'm pretty sure Dune II for the PC and Genesis was the first RTS.

and the amiga

[Schimid]

Goddamn, Zomboid is so angry.

He's right though, the key to having friends is to play all of your games online and alone.

[Guitar Woman]

So are we ever going to play or what

Ranked is getting a little exasperating, I met some guy with a Venom Mii who had a 15 game winning streak which I promptly broke

He apparently took offense to this and used MIND CONTROL to make my goalie fall over, run away, or dive in the complete opposite direction when faced with the task of blocking balls shot by fucking balance characters

[Schimid]

Yeah, sorry.

I'd play right now but I'm out at a friend's and he thinks he lent his copy to someone else. Either way, my normal code is 386661 354279. I'm hardly ever home though, so I'll just try to catch you at some point.

And yeah, those balanced characters can be gruesome. :O

[Zomboid]

Goddamn, Zomboid is so angry.

He's right though, the key to having friends is to play all of your games online and alone.
No man. The key to having friends is to get the ones who are really weird, greasy, wear nintendo shirts, and who's idea of a party is mario party 47 and a bag of chips.

[Fathom Zero]

To be fair, though, chips are pretty cool.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Zomboid must have some pretty lame friends then.

Chips are rad.

[MetalMilitia]

Guitar Hero? Rockband? Screw that. Ladies and gentlemen - THE FUTURE (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/239893.html)

How do you feel about Nintendo NOW Zomboid?

[Guitar Woman]

I feel pretty good since it has both of those already

[Zomboid]

I am certainly changing my tune after seeing that! Nintendo clearly knows that they're doing and are setting the bar even higher for the competition. YET ANOTHER GREAT PARTY GAME! Those people on stage look like they were having such a blast and maaaan did that music sound great. I can't wait to get some buddies over so we can look like fucking idiots while playing the mario bros theme.

Fuck guitar hero and rock band.

[Guitar Woman]

To be fair, the song list in that game is probably actually better than Rock Band's.

[Zomboid]

Yeah, Metroid theme, Castlevania theme, Mario bros theme, Tetris theme, etc is guaranteed to be better than a bunch of rock songs ranging from decent to classic.

[Guitar Woman]

I dunno, I'd prefer the Tetris theme to Iron Maiden.

Rock Band's problem is that it was full of artists I liked, but only had their most boring, overplayed shit.

For example, say, if they had been able to get a Led Zeppelin song for the game, they would have picked something like Black Dog or Misty Mountain Hop or Kashmir, rather than a less known and infinitely better song like Achilles Last Stand or The Rover.

I'm especially disappointed with what BOC songs Rock Band and GH3 had.

[Zomboid]

I dunno, I'd prefer the Tetris theme to Iron Maiden.
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. Even if you hate the music in rock band and the guitar hero games (because you're just weird), there was still a level of skill involved in those. In wii music, you just sit there looking like a dumbass like they demonstrated, and the notes will get hit.

[Guitar Woman]

oh, don't get the wrong idea, I like GH3 a lot. But not Rock Band!

Probably more because of the lack of WiFi multiplayer on the Wii version of Rock Band than the track list, but the only Wolfmother song in the game not being available to me sorta drove the final nail into the coffin


Don't think I hate classic rock, though, I'm one of the first people to shake a walking stick and say the guitar was better when depressed sharecroppers and english guys with ridiculous perms were doing it.

[Phoenix Gamma]

In wii music, you just sit there looking like a dumbass like they demonstrated, and the notes will get hit.


SHOWS WHAT YOU KNOW.

The notes never get hit. That's why they butchered the Mario theme. Goddamn that was hard to watch :(

[Zomboid]

Uh, read the press release. They said that you just have to pretend you're playing the instrument and the rest will be done for you.

[Zomboid]

[10:00] Most music games require precise timing and onscreen symbol matching, he explains. Wii Music was designed instead to allow everyone to experience the joy of performing music. There's no need to closely follow notes or rhythm guides; just hold the controller like you would a real instrument and the game plays notes to match the song.

So fuck you.

[Guitar Woman]

if I wanted to do that I'd just air guitar along to the mario theme :<

[MetalMilitia]

[10:00] Most music games require precise timing and onscreen symbol matching, he explains. Wii Music was designed instead to allow everyone to experience the joy of performing music. There's no need to closely follow notes or rhythm guides; just hold the controller like you would a real instrument and the game plays notes to match the song.

So fuck you.

What a piece of shit. :lol

[Phoenix Gamma]

I was making fun of how the music sounded like shit, and therefore mocking the game with you.

So fuck you more.

[Schimid]

GUITAR WOMAN

Where are you?

We tryn'a play some games.

[Chojin]

No man. The key to having friends is to get the ones who are really weird, greasy, wear nintendo shirts, and who's idea of a party is mario party 47 and a bag of chips.

shit, son

mario party?

ain't ONE BLUNT.

at REAL parties, man

you can

sip-sum-syruuup

get some fine honeys

get some NAS playin

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1641/ballin2rh0.jpg

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

[Guitar Woman]

I was asleep since like 6 PM yesterday

[Zomboid]

I don't know what that means, Chojin. Is it an American thing? A metrosexual thing? I really don't understand.

[Fathom Zero]

Fuck yeah, NAS.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Chad is so ballin'. I'd party with him.

[MLE]

My name's Zomboid and I get jokes.

[Guitar Woman]

I JUST LOOKED THAT JOKE UP THAT'S A MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME HOW DARE YOU

I BET YOU DRESS UP LIKE MUDKIPS AND SEXUALLY ROLEPLAY WITH MEN

[Guitar Woman]

Also, Schimid, I'm available for Strikers today, although I'm having a horribly bad day; barely winning against people with 14-2 losing streaks, letting Hammer Bros get skillshots off, fucking up every single trick I try to do, etc.

[MLE]

Schimid's over, so get on AIM, bitch!

[Zomboid]

My name's Zomboid and I get jokes.
And what a hilarious joke it was. If gw's right, it's a reference to an internet meme? Good one!

[MLE]

Not really a meme and just something commonly known on youtube. Not everything on the internet is a meme.

[Guitar Woman]

Yes it is, you meme

[Zomboid]

Hi, my name is Zomboid and a lot of internet jokes will fly over my head because I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[Schimid]

Good games, GW :O

You remind me of me and pretty much everyone else back when the online first launched. You're real good at keepaway and your constant passing put me in a bad position a few times.

You REALLY gotta learn how to block that instant goal at the start. I stopped doing it because it was so effective.

Other than that, just keep playing. You're definitely on the right track. I think your Wario is a lot better than your Daisy, but you did trick me once or twice with that Crystal Smash.

[Guitar Woman]

The main problem with my daisy team is that she's the only defensive character, and when I'm not her and someone's coming in to do something DASTARDLY she's way on the other side of the field.

I also hadn't gotten into my A-game mood until after I played you, so I sorta want a rematch as daisy because hargleblargle

Also, I know you can block the goal by running backwards and lob passing; I tried that against you a few times, but it didn't do anything. Of course, you and Chojin are the only people who do it right from the goal line, so I think I'll be ok.

[Guitar Woman]

Oh, and teach me a few tricks some time; I only know like three really shitty ones :<

[Schimid]

We're going to get something to eat. Be on AIM in like, 30 minutes. >:

I'll show you some tricks after the next series :O

EDIT - Also, Chojin and I aren't the only ones that do it immediately--a lot of really good players do, including clan members. If you're Daisy, just hit them right off the bat. If they do a little circle before chipping, anticipate it and either hit them after the circle or just run toward the goal.

[Guitar Woman]

Man, I'd have scored three times durring that SD if it hadn't been passed to Daisy :<

[Fathom Zero]

I got your dough, GW. Look forward to fun.

[MLE]

RUH-ROH

[Guitar Woman]

Guys, how come the intro movies to Silent Hill games always make them look about 10 times more awesome than they actually are?

Example:
Silent Hill 1 intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eds1ivwq1oc

This leads us to believe that the game will be a MEANINGFUL, TEARY EYED EMOTIONAL EXTRAVAGANZA with lots of good music and some horrifying gameplay segments linking us from cutscene to cutscene. The only time the game actually is like this is the cutscene where Lisa Garland "dies." (ok, spoilers, fuck you, if you haven't played the game or seen the movie yet you're slower than I am)


Also, some of those cutscenes aren't even in the game. What?

Anyway, what you spend most of the game doing is this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDWTGrz3XT4

Now, I'm not saying it's a bad game; Alchemilla General scared me so badly that I don't know if I'd ever have the guts to go into an actual hospital ever again, but why the misleading videos?

Why do you guys love getting my hopes up for an incredibly cinematic experience and then TRASHING them? :<

Hopefully one of our resident Silent Hill faggots will provide me with an answer to this mystery. I seriously feel like I'm playing joke versions of these games; that's really the only explanation other than "everyone who likes it is retarded" that I can think of.



Also, unfortunately since Silent Hill 2 saw being scary as something only a dirty conformist survival horror game would do, it lacked anything remotely like it and was just a big, foggy, badly acted keyhunt. This led me to dismiss it as shit.

Oh, did I mention the acting in these games is HORRIBLE? It is.


This also sort of called me to question why I enjoy Resident Evil without complaint, since it's pretty much the exact same thing with a camera I can predict and less fucking fog everywhere; keyhunting, simplistic puzzle solving, RETARDED acting and dialogue writing, tank controls and a difficult to use but never game breaking combat system, and the every so often pissypants moment. I answer myself: because I'm EXPECTING this sort of shit and have braced myself for it. Resident Evil was never tauted as an incredible cinematic masterpiece or "bastion of perfected psychological horror" by its fanboys; It's often described as playing your own B zombie movie. There are probably other reaons I like Resident Evil, like how it just feels a lot more CLASSIC than Silent Hill; you, your gun, a bunch of zombies and locked doors, and some giant sharks and sentient plants thrown in for good measure.

But the biggest reason, for me, is Silent Hill's ridiculous let down factor. Serious, I can't think of any game that's put on this high of a pedestal for things that have all been done before and better, and then hawked as something absurdly different than it actually is.

Now, I usually don't call Silent Hill out on this sort of stuff because I know the LOL YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, DUMBASS card is going to be inevitably pulled, but you know what? Fuck you, and your wannabe Shining.

What the fuck, guys, seriously?

[HellBeast]

well silent hill games are very cinematic. the game surrounds itself more around stpry telling and puzzles. so their trailers look like a trailer to a kickass thriller or horror movie when the game is actually an interactive novel. at least thats what i think. i never got into them very much.

[Guitar Woman]

sigh

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Guys, how come the intro movies to Silent Hill games always make them look about 10 times more awesome than they actually are?

Example:
Silent Hill 1 intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eds1ivwq1oc

This leads us to believe that the game will be a MEANINGFUL, TEARY EYED EMOTIONAL EXTRAVAGANZA with lots of good music and some horrifying gameplay segments linking us from cutscene to cutscene. The only time the game actually is like this is the cutscene where Lisa Garland "dies." (ok, spoilers, fuck you, if you haven't played the game or seen the movie yet you're slower than I am)


Also, some of those cutscenes aren't even in the game. What?

Anyway, what you spend most of the game doing is this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDWTGrz3XT4

Now, I'm not saying it's a bad game; Alchemilla General scared me so badly that I don't know if I'd ever have the guts to go into an actual hospital ever again, but why the misleading videos?

Why do you guys love getting my hopes up for an incredibly cinematic experience and then TRASHING them? :<

Hopefully one of our resident Silent Hill faggots will provide me with an answer to this mystery. I seriously feel like I'm playing joke versions of these games; that's really the only explanation other than "everyone who likes it is retarded" that I can think of.



Also, unfortunately since Silent Hill 2 saw being scary as something only a dirty conformist survival horror game would do, it lacked anything remotely like it and was just a big, foggy, badly acted keyhunt. This led me to dismiss it as shit.

Oh, did I mention the acting in these games is HORRIBLE? It is.


This also sort of called me to question why I enjoy Resident Evil without complaint, since it's pretty much the exact same thing with a camera I can predict and less fucking fog everywhere; keyhunting, simplistic puzzle solving, RETARDED acting and dialogue writing, tank controls and a difficult to use but never game breaking combat system, and the every so often pissypants moment. I answer myself: because I'm EXPECTING this sort of shit and have braced myself for it. Resident Evil was never tauted as an incredible cinematic masterpiece or "bastion of perfected psychological horror" by its fanboys; It's often described as playing your own B zombie movie. There are probably other reaons I like Resident Evil, like how it just feels a lot more CLASSIC than Silent Hill; you, your gun, a bunch of zombies and locked doors, and some giant sharks and sentient plants thrown in for good measure.

But the biggest reason, for me, is Silent Hill's ridiculous let down factor. Serious, I can't think of any game that's put on this high of a pedestal for things that have all been done before and better, and then hawked as something absurdly different than it actually is.

Now, I usually don't call Silent Hill out on this sort of stuff because I know the LOL YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, DUMBASS card is going to be inevitably pulled, but you know what? Fuck you, and your wannabe Shining.

What the fuck, guys, seriously?



Did you play these games when they came out???

To get a point across that's like me saying "Hey guys, I can't believe it's the year 2018 already. I played this game that came out back in 2008 called Mario Strikers. It's so terrible, it's nothing compared to all these new games that are out now which is what I'm basing it against. Huh, yeah. I know it's a different genre from what I normally play and it came out a decade ago."


That's basically what I just heard.

Hell, when Silent Hill 1 came out I wouldn't play it by myself, it at least took 2 other people.

In regards to the intros to the games it was cutting edge at the time.

[Guitar Woman]

oh, or the IT WAS GOOD FOR ITS TIME!!1 card, that's always a favorite.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

You're unfortunate

[Pub Lover]

Sweettits, if you're going to dismiss the opinions of the people that like the game as fanboy cliche then they'll never reconvince you of the game's worth like the last three times you badmouthed it.

Some people like the game, you do not. That's fine, you can shut up about it now. You mini-Zomboid.

[Guitar Woman]

there should be a game that is what I expected Silent Hill to be originally

[Phoenix Gamma]

oh, or the IT WAS GOOD FOR ITS TIME!!1 card, that's always a favorite.

This.

I don't care if a game was fun in 1990. I'm playing the game now.

[Pub Lover]

I played the game in 1990 and my memory says it's good, so don't ask my opinion on a game if you're a crybaby about progress vs nostalgia.

[Guitar Woman]

My favorite game is a side scroller that was dated when it came out, guys, don't accuse me of this shit

[Phoenix Gamma]

I think it's okay to like whatever you want.

Unless it's one of those videogames based on board games. You're not allowed to like those.

[MLE]

My favorite game is probably warlords on the 2600 but mine is broken and all I want to do is play some warlords guys ;_;

[Guitar Woman]

http://stella.sourceforge.net/

[liquidstatik]

:rolleyes

[MLE]

I want to play it on my original system. I just bought new tennis game paddles for it, and I have my original cart. ;_;

[Emu]

in spite of the fact that i have ROMs for all the games I buy I still find myself shelling out stupid amounts of money for cartridges to play on my SNES :'(

[HellBeast]

I think it's okay to like whatever you want.

Unless it's one of those videogames based on board games. You're not allowed to like those.


I agree. Having a debate about video games are okay and some games are just god awful but everybody is allowed to like what they want. an opinion is an opinion.

[liquidstatik]

I liked monopoly on the snes :eek

[Guitar Woman]

Chessmaster on the gameboy was pretty sweet

[Fathom Zero]

Bionic Commando for the GBC was awesome.

[Guitar Woman]

that's not a boardgame!!!!!

[executioneer]

i like the snes vers. of clue

and on the whole RE vs SH debate, i played both when they came out (well RE2 anyways >:) and i thought RE2 was way scarier than silent hill, although silent hill still was pretty good creepyness wise! and the puzzles in SH were slightly less key-hunty (or cunty for short haha)

havent played sh2 yet :(

[Guitar Woman]

I still remain enthusiastic about Silent Hill 3 which looks just really great

[Zomboid]

SH2 is one of the best games I've ever played. It's a game that I'll never forget.

[MetalMilitia]

So some screen shots of Dead Rising Wii have surfaced. As far as I'm concerned it looks dreadful but I'm sure guitar woman will love the fuck out of it because she's gay like that.

Anyway, behold!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/176659.9/DR1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/176659.9/DR2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/176659.9/DR3.jpg

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168902

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Wow, that looks like a Flash game version of Dead Rising.

[Guitar Woman]

I don't understand why nobody realizes that the Wii is graphically more powerful than the Nintendo 64.

Resident Evil 4 is still the best looking game on it, and it's 3 years old.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Send in the graphics whores!

[Fathom Zero]

Jesus Christ, that's like a PS1 game.

Parasite Eve comes to mind.

[HellBeast]

I'm not a graphic whore but still. and dead rising came out a while ago, why would they release it on the Wii when they could have spent time concentrating on something else.

[Girl Drink Drunk]

I still remain enthusiastic about Silent Hill 3 which looks just really great
Oh christ.

[Guitar Woman]

explain yourself

[MetalMilitia]

I just thought everyone would like to know I'm now occupying the number ONE position in the BF:H beta leader board.
It's lonely at the top but at least I have my thousands of points to keep me company.

Btw - were are you ranked, Guitar Woman? What's that? You're not ranked because you suck too much? Ha!

[Schimid]

Silent Hill 3 is great, I don't know what that guy is talking about. It's the one that got me into the series and is a more action-oriented game with a bit more straight-forward plot. I remember renting SH2 a long, long time ago and hating it, then renting SH3 and loving it, then going BACK to SH2 and "getting it."

Dead Rising does look like ass, but I didn't buy a Wii to be an optical powerhouse. We ain't tryn'a marvel at supreme graphical technology or polygonal wizardry.

We tryn'a play some gaymes.

[Girl Drink Drunk]

If you'e refering to me, I love the Silent Hill. I just meant that I know GW's going to butcher it on this thread after playing it, like he did for the first two games.