LET'S ARGUE ABOUT VIDEO GAMES

[mew barios]

i didn't think ET was all that bad, considering it was made by one dude who was given only 6 weeks when the average development cycle was 6 or 7 months. but i had it when i was a tiny kid and kind of liked it even if i didn't understand the idea of a game having a bug that could prevent you from completing it :contrary

[King Hadas]

I played it when I was little too and it wasn't noticeably worse than any of my other Atari games. Of course, it certainly was no Burgertime

buy a copy of Ishtar
I heard Ishtar was okay.

[Grislygus]

Gary Larson was the probably the only person to ever admit that, and I think he was just feeling guilty about dissing a movie he never saw

[Guitar Woman]

Link's Awakening is simply a much better game. Better design, better music, better story, better overworld, better dungeons, better puzzles, smoother gameplay, etc. I'd go so far as to call it a brilliant game, even. The hilarious part is that yes, it absolutely trounces LttP despite being built on inferior hardware, but that's not anything new.

So far this arguement has consisted of "guys, I don't like LttP very much, here's a collection of reasons for that"

"WOAH, STOP BEING SUCH A HIPSTER WITH YOUR TROLL OPINIONS"

I find people who want to dislike something just to be 'different' to be hilarious. I also find them to be somewhat cowardly and hypocritical. If you want to be different, go all the freaking way. Don't just hate things everyone loves, declare you love things everyone hates. Join the neo nazis, watch Sandra Prill videos, buy a copy of Ishtar, get the game ET for Atari 2600 and play it nonstop. Of course none of them do, so in the end their opinions are laughable, empty, and meaningless because half measures get you nowhere.

While we are at it, the internet is pretty popular, aren't you being a conformist by using it?
I don't think you even partially comprehend my motives. OH DEAR WAS THAT COMMENT TOO HIPSTER FOR YOU

[Grislygus]

Yes, but why are the puzzles better?

[Guitar Woman]

Because they're fun to solve, obviously.

Basically it boils down to "Link to the Past is not very fun." This is because it's fucking tedious and all the puzzles and keyhunts and shit take 10 fucking years to finish even if you already know what to do

[Pentegarn]

All you keep saying though is "I don't like it because I don't like it"

That's the intellectual equivalent of Beavis and Butthead conversations

Beavis: Hey Buthead, let's play LttP heh heh

Butthead: Uhhh huh huh, LttP sucks, huh huh

All I have seen you do is say, 'I don't like (music/traps/level design/keys)' All of which by the way were in Link's Awakening executed pretty much the same way. You don't give examples of where you find a flaw in LttP nor do you explain how Awakening remedies these alleged flaws. Which brings me back to you are lying about playing it through twice. I think the reason you give no real examples is you have in fact never played LttP and you want to seem, yes, hipster. Or maybe you are taking a page from The Coolinator school of debate, where you just say the same thing over and over and then expect us to present your own argument for you.

[Zomboid]

It's "better" is not a valid argument. This is exactly why no one is taking your opinion seriously.

[Chojin]

the game boy version of mortal kombat is the best. the moves are just done better than the arcade. kano's ball roll is impossible with the arcade stick. plus it's more fun.

[Guitar Woman]

All I have seen you do is say, 'I don't like (music/traps/level design/keys)'

So, you've watched me talk about how I hate everything that makes up the game and are still at a loss for why I don't like it?

the game boy version of mortal kombat is the best. the moves are just done better than the arcade. kano's ball roll is impossible with the arcade stick. plus it's more fun.
Come on, dude, Mortal Kombat is an Eldritch piece of shit no matter what system it's on, this is hardly a valid comparison.

[Chojin]

i still haven't seen a single gameboy game that was playable, let alone superior to anything

[Guitar Woman]

Pokemon?

[Chojin]

okay yes i played pokemon red on the color and it was enjoyable. doesn't rly count though since it was on the color.

i think the original tetris might have been ok too; i can't remember if the gameboy's terribad ghosting affected it as much as every other game on that system

[Grislygus]

that GB Ninja Gaiden game was playable, but easy as shit. My cousin had it and I beat it in an hour. The first GB bionic commando and mario game was fun, too.

That was about it.

[Guitar Woman]

okay yes i played pokemon red on the color and it was enjoyable. doesn't rly count though since it was on the color.
Uh, it was still a gameboy game, right?

I just assumed we were talking about the color anyway, but the b&w version of Link's Awakening is essentially the same game, just with a shitload of hilarious teleportation glitches that let you sequence break like nobody's business

[Pentegarn]

Oh so a glitchy game is better? I see.

Yeah there is nothing more to discuss, you clearly know nothing about what makes a good game a good game

[Chojin]

i really don't understand how the gameboy worked from a marketing perspective. the equipment was goddamn near impossible to actually play games on.

[Pentegarn]

It was clunky, had zero battery power, a spinach green screen, and yet....

It had Tetris on the go, which seemed to win the day at that time. The only handheld competition that was relevant (sorry Lynx and TG16 portable) was the Game Gear, and as bad as Gameboy was on batteries, Game Gear was way worse. So Gameboy won by simple default. Also Nintendo had nearly godlike status in the vidjamagames market in those days so if you slapped the Nintendo logo on a bucket of vomit people would have shelled out hundreds of dollars to buy it

As I recall the initial library for Gameboy was poor, other than Tetris and Super Mario Land there was nothing of note going for it (though I may be forgetting a title or 2)

[mew barios]

compared to my pile of tiger lcd games the gameboy looked like the face of god :o i had one of those giant magnifier/light things stuck on top of it so i prolly looked like i was browsing through a microfiche goin down the street.

i dunno what you can compare it to and say that it had poor battery life though, i remember getting like 12h out of it.

[Pentegarn]

On 4 AAs I got about 4-6 hours. Not a ton. The rechargable battery solved that problem though. And the magnifier/light was a necessity if memory serves.

Also I too had a pile of Tiger LCD games

[Guitar Woman]

Oh so a glitchy game is better? I see.

Yeah there is nothing more to discuss, you clearly know nothing about what makes a good game a good game

haha yeah ok

That's pretty much not what I said, but feel free to give yourself an easy exit

[mew barios]

i used that teleporting glitch so often i wore out the select button on my gameboy

[WhiteRat]

i still haven't seen a single gameboy game that was playable, let alone superior to anything

Woah woah, let's not get crazy here. It was a severely limited platform but had a bunch of good games. I had a Gameboy back in the diz-ay and here are just a few games that were AWESOME and completely playable:

Metroid 2: Return of Samus - No i'm not going to be like the hipster Gdub and claim it's better than Super or even the original Metroid but this game was pretty damn fun and had a massive world to explore which I had completely memorized to a t when I was a kid. The Metroid Queen (The Final Boss) was impressive to see given the Gameboy's limitations.

Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins - Crazy world that didn't fit into the Mario universe but it had pretty good graphics for the gameboy and enough levels to wanna slap yo mamma.

Operation C - Great contra portable with good graphics and play control but it didn't have a whole lot of levels. Still fun as hell.

Super Mario Land 3: Warioland - Better graphics than Land 2, awesome music, and enough treasures to find to keep you busy for a long time.

Bionic Commando - I actually liked this better than the NES version but admittedly I didn't play the NES version until years later on a ROM, so my opinion is probably shit.

Also Mortal Kombat was fucking TERRIBLE but that didn't stop me from obsessively playing it.

[Fathom Zero]

Bionic Commando for the GBC rocked.

[k0k0]

I like Bionic Commando Rearmed the best, but the NES version was a good time. I never got into playing handheld versions of anything other than sudoku on my cell phone.

[Chojin]

everything blurred so much on the gameboy that it was pretty much an unplayable system for me :< it doesn't happen on emulators, so i feel that kids these days who go back and try it are getting an unfairly good opinion of the system

[Pentegarn]

haha yeah ok

That's pretty much not what I said, but feel free to give yourself an easy exit

No that is precisely what you said, so my post stands correct as opposed to corrected. But thanks for your attempted participation in the conversation

[Zhukov]

It's not that crazy a notion that a game can have flaws yet still be better than a game without said flaws. It may even be possible that the aforementioned flaws give the game a certain character and charm that may otherwise not have been present.

[Pentegarn]

There's a gulf of difference between flaws and glitches though

[mew barios]

link's awakening is my favorite zelda game :< when i finally got a gameboy of my own that was the game that came with it and i played that thing all day everyday. i love the story and the tone and all its quirkyness that really bring through a feeling that the entire game was a labor of love and everyone involved gave it their all. i had never played a game before that made me consider the consequences of completing it.

for me it edges out link to the past, though i really enjoy that game also. even with that said, when i tried to relive the experience on the original hardware i found it to be totally unplayable :< but i have no real reason to bust out the old green machine when i can play it on the super gameboy or gameboy player or gameboy color or gameboy advance or emulated on the ds

[Grislygus]

I first played the color version of link's awakening, but I never had a problem on the games I played on the original as long as I wasn't outside

[WhiteRat]

everything blurred so much on the gameboy that it was pretty much an unplayable system for me :< it doesn't happen on emulators, so i feel that kids these days who go back and try it are getting an unfairly good opinion of the system

Did you need to wear coke bottle glasses as a kid or something? Yeah the resolution was crap but it was so bad that it was unplayable? Metric shit tons of the units were sold worldwide so it couldn't have been THAT bad.

Also the emulators aren't going to have this "blurriness" that you speak of simply because the resolution of the pc is so much higher.

[Chojin]

i'm referring to motion blur, not resolution

i'm beginning to think none of you have actually used a gameboy

[Pentegarn]

I know what you are talking about. Anyone who played Super Mario Land would remember it vividly because that game did it worse than any other I can remember

[Guitar Woman]

link's awakening is my favorite zelda game :< when i finally got a gameboy of my own that was the game that came with it and i played that thing all day everyday. i love the story and the tone and all its quirkyness that really bring through a feeling that the entire game was a labor of love and everyone involved gave it their all. i had never played a game before that made me consider the consequences of completing it.

Yeah, basically this.

I don't know why you guys are treating it like it was Zelda's answer to Super Mario Land or Mortal Kombat or whatever. It functioned as a proper standalone game rather than a scaled down handheld port of a stronger title, and you could tell a lot of effort went into making it.

You guys did play it, right?

[Pentegarn]

Yes, we played it, which is why when you say "I hate LttP" and "I love Links Awakening" we wonder if you really played LttP. It is the same basic game minus the owl

[WhiteRat]

i'm referring to motion blur, not resolution

i'm beginning to think none of you have actually used a gameboy

Yes, I do remember (SML brought that memory back from the grave) but other than that game I never remember it being an issue. Like I said, it was an extremely successful platform so it couldn't have been that bad. Honestly when I think back to the GB, "motion blur" never even pops up as something that I would even associate with the system. To each his eyes I guess.



You guys did play it, right?

Yeah but the motion blur was so bad it made me throw up and I just could never finish it. Heard it was the best Zelda, too. Bummer.

[executioneer]

lol

[Zhukov]

It's not that crazy a notion that a game can have glitches yet still be better than a game without said glitches. It may even be possible that the aforementioned glitches give the game a certain character and charm that may otherwise not have been present.

There's a gulf of difference between flaws and glitches though

Ok, well if you think that, then change the word 'flaws' in my post, for 'glitches'.

[darkvare]

i dunno if you know but i was at ign and apparently the domain modernwarfare3.com has been bought by someone whose only purpose was to talk shit about the game

[Zhukov]

That's fantastic.

[Fathom Zero]

http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman/blog/2011/07/18/a_message_from_capcom

bollocks

[Zomboid]

Aren't you from Alabama, or something? Why do you say stuff like "bollocks" and "mum"?

[Zhukov]

Because our labour laws are better in the Commonwealth.

Do you say Mum and Labour and Colour and Favourite and all those properly spelled words in Canada?

[Zomboid]

I've never spelled it "mum," but I used to add the "u" to those words. I've been doing it less and less over time, though.

[k0k0]

Ever since I Arrested Development came on, I've been calling my mom "mother". It just weirds people out and I'm ok with that.

[Grislygus]

I occasionally say bloody, cause it's fun to say and easy to slip in. Not quite sure about that whole "mum" thing, though.

[Fathom Zero]

I say "muh - maaaaaa" in person, but that doesn't really translate well in writing.

And I used to use 'u's in words like favourite and colour and armour because that's how I learnt them.

My family moved around Europe a lot, so I got a little bit of everything, between that, television, and movies.

[Aaarg]

i'm a bit lttp (LATE TO THE PARTY NOT LIKN TOT HE PAST FAGGETS) but link's awakening is fucking marvelous and the game its engine was based on has finally received a fan translation

just mere months after i played through the game in japspamese!!!

fun game anyway. the "battle system" is useless and the game is easy but it's totalsfun.

http://www.romhacking.net/trans/1623/

[k0k0]

I could never play the gameboy. I remember when my step dad bought me a gameboy for Christmas and I returned it to the store, then used the money to buy some genesis games. He beat the crap out of me for that because I didn't appreciate what he got me, but the original gameboy was so shitty that it was worth a beating.

[Pentegarn]

The original gameboy was a testament to how powerful a marketing juggernaut Nintendo was in those days. You could have painted Nintendo on a dog turd and it would have sold a million units

[Dr. Boogie]

I could never play the gameboy. I remember when my step dad bought me a gameboy for Christmas and I returned it to the store, then used the money to buy some genesis games. He beat the crap out of me for that because I didn't appreciate what he got me, but the original gameboy was so shitty that it was worth a beating.

It's his fault for giving you the receipt for the damn gameboy.

[Pentegarn]

Day after Christmas = no receipt required day, everyone knows that

[k0k0]

Yeah, return policies were so relaxed back then also. I'm sure my 11 year old self could probably cry his way to getting it returned.

[Fathom Zero]

So Nintendo's slashing the 3DS' price by $80 and the early adopters/idiots will be getting 20 free downloadable games for their trouble/idiocy. Some of them will be exclusive to those early adopters, though for how long, no one knows.

It's suddenly become easier for me to justify getting one of these, considering I don't even have a DS anymore.

[k0k0]

I'm one of the people who sees 3D as a fad/gimmick. Every time some new 3D technology comes out, every movie at the time gets made into 3D. Then it all but goes away for 10 years. No thanks, I'll wait for holograms, the true 3D.

[Fathom Zero]

I actually think that this is how 3D is going to be best accomplished, with the two off-set interlaced displays. It's already in TVs now and doesn't require stupid glasses. All you need is a camera in the TV to judge a person's position and adjust the display and BOOM - you got cheap, easy 3D.

I won't debate the fad nature of it with ya. It's already been done to death.

[k0k0]

I might be biased because 3D gives me a headache, even with the glasses kind. The 3D tv's now suck because of the small viewing angle, and your proposed version would suck because it's only fitting to one person. The coolest feature of the 3D televisions is the ability to play split screen multiplayer on the same tv without the split screen. I haven't done it so I don't know how if that would bother my eyes or not.

[Grislygus]

I actually want the 3ds to playportable street fighter REALLY bad, but since I wouldn't be caught dead with one in public, that kind of defeats the purpose of a handheld.


SUPER jealous of i-phone users playing street fighter with the virtual touchscreen arcade consoles displayed under the action

[Fathom Zero]

I've got the Street Fighter for the iPhone. It's tight.

[darkvare]

the volt version?

[Fathom Zero]

Naw, the regular Street Fighter IV.

[WhiteRat]

i just want to know if you can fuck the 3ds

[The Nun Eater]

Sounds like a horrible food item though. I bet you could probably find assburgers in Wal-Mart.

[The Nun Eater]

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If you could, I probably wouldn't feel so bad about wasting $250 on mine. Especially with a $80 price cut in just a few more weeks.

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If you could, I probably wouldn't feel so bad about wasting $250 on mine. Especially with a $80 price cut in just a few more weeks.

I like your quote style. Also, you can fuck anything.

[k0k0]

I was wondering what was up with the quote he made too. A++

[The Nun Eater]

I was way to intoxicated to be on a forum. In my drunken blur I decided it would be easier to cut and copy than to press a simple button. Just goes to show you the good the comes from drinking.

[Grislygus]

Yeah, fantastic. Moving on immediately.

What the fuck is with the Kinect? I just got back from an all-nighter and this fucking guy brought his 360 and his Kinect, plugged them in, and kept trying to get other people to play. I didn't even know it existed, and I just googled it and found out that it's ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS

Is everyone in America pretty much committed to going full retard at this point? I seriously would have been less irritated if someone has rented a goddamned karaoke machine

[Dr. Boogie]

I guess there are enough people out there who like Just Dance a whole lot.

I can't see myself buying one, if only because I don't have the required amount of space to set one up.


Did anyone take that guy up on his offer, or was it enough to see he had brought a Kinect to turn everyone against him?

[k0k0]

I wish the wii never came out because we'll be seeing a lot more of this kind of bullshit. I am tired of shaking a controller or trying to waggle something so that I can make someone on the screen do it. Give me a real controller and I can do that exact same thing but a lot easier and a lot faster. It doesn't put me in the game at all, it takes me out of it.

[Grislygus]

A few people did, but it was awkward and they eventually stopped because no one else went near it

[Fathom Zero]

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9206/16686710150128627277082.jpg

I'm only about 4 feet away from it.

It's pretty cool, I guess. I liked playing with it more than the Wii.

Also, a new game from the guy who made Panzer Dragoon is coming to the Kinect, as is the new Steel Batallion and Suda 51's Kinect game, which is obviously going to kick ass. Child of Eden is already out.

So these games, pretty much.

[Zomboid]

Yay. You have to jump around to play. I sure hated being comfortable and relaxed while playing games.

[The Nun Eater]

It's Microsoft's way of keeping up with whats trendy without introducing a motion controller. I wish console producers would get back to upgrading core functions instead of constantly introducing the next gimmick to fatten there already overinflated pockets.

[k0k0]

One of the things I really hate about it is that during E3 and other game conferences when I'm hoping to hear cool game announcements, I only get to hear half game announcement and half kinectathon from Microsoft. Another is that I'm almost positive that it is the reason Mass Effect 3 got pushed back. The day that Mass Effect 3 got thrown back to next year, they announce 'but it'll be coming with kinect specific features'. Not cool.

[Fathom Zero]

Yay. You have to jump around to play. I sure hated being comfortable and relaxed while playing games.

I thought you weren't fat anymore.

But it really is fun when you're in the mood for it, especially Dance Central. It's fun for the same reason karaoke is fun. We packed that tiny apartment living room with people one night and got our freak on.

And yeah, I'd be perfectly fine not having one, but I would've been losing an opportunity for no reason.

It isn't $150 of fun, though, (yet.) I bought it used, so it was all good. :O

[Zomboid]

I'm not fat, but I still don't want to have to do that shit to play a video game. I can see it being fun for a little bit with a bunch of people, but even then, I think I'd prefer Mortal Kombat and controllers.

[Fathom Zero]

How is Mortal Kombat, by the way? I've heard lots of gooood things.

[Zomboid]

It's way more fun than I expected it to be. I played the shit out of the single player (still do), and it gets played every time friends are over. The extra characters and "klassic kostumes" are just bonuses. It's a waaaay better fighter than you'd expect from the series, even, so it's not just nostalgia talking.

[Nick]

I really enjoyed it when I bought it, and my family still enjoys it at get togethers. (Not counting that time I got chewed out by some old religious woman) but I could really care less about these DLC characters. They're just kinda uninteresting to me. I mean I like having Rain in the game since he kinda completes the UMK3 roster, but he's so boring.

[Pentegarn]

It's way more fun than I expected it to be. I played the shit out of the single player (still do), and it gets played every time friends are over. The extra characters and "klassic kostumes" are just bonuses. It's a waaaay better fighter than you'd expect from the series, even, so it's not just nostalgia talking.

I was still on the fence about this game to be honest. I always thought the MK series was a one trick pony but I keep hearing good things from too many people about this new one. I may have to give it at least a rent

[The Nun Eater]

It has one of the most interesting stories of any fighting game I have ever player. It provides background for all the classic MK characters and does a decent job of keeping you interested enough to finish the lengthy campaign. As far as the fighting goes, it feel just the same as Mortal Kombat 3 so it familiar but with slight changes.

It's fun to play if you enjoyed the old ones. Not to mention they ramped the violence up to 11 and thats never really a bad thing.

[Nick]

The story mode in Mortal Kombat is fantastic. It was totally the high point of the game for me.

[Shyandquietguy]

Holy shit, I just discovered you can use runes to alter your abilities in Diablo 3!

Damn computer, you and a lack of a recent console are your fault for making me lose interest in games. >:(

[Fathom Zero]

I'm kinda psyched for Diablo 3, even having only played the others for about ten minutes.

[k0k0]

I'm more excited about Borderlands 2 than Diablo 3, even though it's further away in release.

[Grislygus]

I am AMPED for diablo 3, it'll be the first real game I've played in a long damn time, played the living hell out of diablo 2 as a kid

[k0k0]

I can't wrap my brain around the world of warcraft looking graphics. And nothing I've seen looks too hellish. I do think it's funny that they're making it so that you can sell your loot to other players for real cash.

[Grislygus]

As irritated as I am at the new generic crapfest art direction, I do enjoy the fact the the graphics look like a game made in the current decade this time around

[Fathom Zero]

I can't wrap my brain around the world of warcraft looking graphics. And nothing I've seen looks too hellish.
I wish people would stop with that stupidity. You're just parroting lame bullshit.

[k0k0]

I'm not parroting shit. First thing I thought when I saw how it looked was, "looks like wow"

[Grislygus]

What are you talking about, the art is headed by a freaking warhammer 40k guy, gigantic shoulderpads up the ass as far as I can tell. It's not going to affect gameplay or the story at all, but I'll agree with him on that count

psyched that Fallout people are in environment and map design, though

[Fathom Zero]

nerts to you, too, then

I fail to see how

http://www.diablo3demo.com/diablo3screen6.jpg

looks anything like the rainbow lollipop land that is World of Warcraft. If anything, I'll grant you that it looks a bit similar to Warcraft 3, but even that color palette is too much.

[k0k0]

I didn't know the fallout people were doing the environment and map stuff. Color my interest renewed. I do hope that since they are forbidding modding that they at least put in a map editor. So it doesn't ruin the game they can make it to where you have to use a new character for the edited maps.

[Grislygus]

fathom, the problem is with the core drawings, not the colors

The angels look the same, but that's about it

[Fathom Zero]

I could give a shit about those. Don't like them, like them, whatever. I've just seen so many people whinging about the colors and making stupid things like this:

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/diablo-fan-05.jpg

I WANT YESTERDAY BECAUSE YESTERDAY I KNOW AND TODAY IS NEW

[k0k0]

http://i.imgur.com/ul3ip.jpg

So the design looks nothing like wow.

And yeah, I'm one of the people who likes the darker, grittier look.

[Fathom Zero]

Whatever, I'll be playing Twisted Metal for the next sixteen months, anyway. Diablo sucks.

[Grislygus]

jesus, put that thing in a spoiler tag

Yes, people are stupid and bitch about everything not being 150% darkmurkgloom. MY problem isn't that, I like the improvement from everything looking the fuckdamn same in the previous two games. MY problem is that the character designs look like Dungeon Siege drawn by the warhammer people

[Grislygus]

Which, as I have stated, has NO IMPACT on gameplay, but I support the position that bitching about generic design is perfectly fine

[Fathom Zero]

Hmmm.

I'm trying my ass off to find a (recent) isometric RPG that has good character designs, or at least different ones compared to Grimbloodmuscles McHammercraft, but I'm not coming up with anything really.

Also, lol @ the first thing in my head - Freedom Force.

[Grislygus]

There ISN'T any other than Titan's Quest (just as far as going in a different artistic direction, which was just as uninteresting in its own special way), which is exactly why people are groaning about Diablo 3 doing the exact same thing.

[Grislygus]

Yeah. Titan's Quest pissed me off, too. "SAY, WE'LL STAND OUT BY MAKING EVERYTHING LOOK COMPLETELY MUNDANE! HUH? HUH?"

[k0k0]

I really liked Bard's Tale, but it didn't add much to the formula.

[Fathom Zero]

I was going to mention Titan's Quest, but yeah, that sucked and it's not even that recent.

I think I just have a problem with a lot of isometric RPGs in general. I guess they don't let me feel as close to the character as I'd like.

I was going to say that it's because I hate fantasy as a genre, but I've warmed up to a few games like it, (such as Trine, Overlord, and the Elder Scrolls games.)

My god, was Overlord fun. THOSE games had oodles of style.

[Grislygus]

Yeah, Overlord was prob one of my favorite rpg/puzzle games, I just wished that the puzzles weren't so easy. The Geneforge games and Sacrifice always looked ridiculously fun, but I never got around to trying any of them

[Fathom Zero]

Sacrifice was wicked, for truth. Which reminds me...

Arcanum was also good, but thass only coz I have such a boner for steampunk stuff.

Didja ever play Giants: Citizen Kabuto? EDIT: Since we're on the topic of old, quirky PC games and all.

[Zomboid]

Hmmm.

I'm trying my ass off to find a (recent) isometric RPG that has good character designs, or at least different ones compared to Grimbloodmuscles McHammercraft, but I'm not coming up with anything really.

Also, lol @ the first thing in my head - Freedom Force.

Umm...Fallout and Fallout 2?

[Fathom Zero]

But of course! Played the first just a few hours ago, as a matter of fact. I was trying to go more recent, but there just haven't been as many and the only good ones that have come out in the past few years have all been named Dawn of War. :|

Everything's starting to look the same again.

[Grislygus]

Hell yes, I played Kabuto. Fun as hell, was always irritated that there wasn't any multiplayer. Never played that FPS game they made, though

[Chojin]

graphics for d3 are looking pretty 2002 imo

[Nick]

I've heard talk of Diablo 3 having a Auction House where players can use real money to buy and sell items. For a fee, of course.

[Dr. Boogie]

They're running it like ebay, where they take a small amount for each listing. There's talk of them allowing a small number of free listings per month, but that's just a rumor right now.

The flipside of that is that in order to safeguard all the moneys, there's no offline play at all, and no modding allowed.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I'm going to miss cheatnet

[k0k0]

I don't know if they will have as many people playing it a huge amount to require wanting to pay for weapons if we don't have either a random map generator or a map creator. Unless they're going to be putting out tons of dlc maps after the game releases. Without modding to put out new maps, the same ones may get old. Just my opinion, no idea what their plans are for anything.

[Nick]

I'm not so sure I'm going to be picking up Diablo 3 after hearing all this.

[executioneer]

no offline play at all
no offline play at all
no offline play at all

FUCK. THAT.

[mew barios]

no offline play at all :< my heart is broken

[Nick]

I think they meant that single player uses some sort of DRM.

[Fathom Zero]

That's a no. Constant online connectivity.

[Nick]

I really really don't like this current trend of pc games having to be so tied down in bullshit. I understand that the companies really want to be anal about piracy, but it's just such a hassle.

[Dr. Boogie]

I would have gladly sacrificed the auction system for offline play. I would never pay real money for anything in Diablo except the game itself. All I can think is that this whole thing is due to their partnership with Activision.

[Nick]

It's probably more than likely Activision's fault. At least I hope it is. I just wish that all these money grabbing companies would start losing some stock and wake up from their cash grabs. It's a shame that so many people support them by throwing money at them.

[Grislygus]

I always played diablo II online and locked my games with a password whenever I wanted to farm or just play the game without being bothered with other people's bitching.

THEN I'd join a game with people in it. If they keep something like that for d3's battlenet, I'll be good

[Guitar Woman]

Only D1 was fun to play by yourself anyway.

D2 solo was fucking horrible and I guess they realized that.

[Chojin]

what exactly is the problem with needing to be online to play games

i'm pretty sure my toaster is always fucking online, along with everything else in my house.

i've never understood the complaint

[Dr. Boogie]

My router doesn't support TCP/IP (Toaster Control Protocol/Internet Protocol). :(

[mew barios]

i think of diablo especially when i have memories of times i just didn't have any internet, when i had to move in a hurry or crash somewhere. the best thing to fill that time with is a super repetitive game with no real ending. modern left mouse buttons just can't hold up to the strain of playing diablo anymore :< i guess i'll be stuck playing record of lodoss war on dreamcast the next time the single internet provider in this area has a major issue.

[executioneer]

Only D1 was fun to play by yourself anyway.

D2 solo was fucking horrible and I guess they realized that.
if that is true then i guess i like horrible games better than good games filled with assholes

[Nick]

I never beat Diablo 1 or 2 so I've been replaying them with a bro. Hopefully, D3 won't be complete ass and we'll get to bro-op that game as well.

[Guitar Woman]

if that is true then i guess i like horrible games better than good games filled with assholes
Oh, well, yeah, you can't play Blizzard games with random jackoffs. For some reason they're all populated by world-class assholes or koreans.

D2 in solo mode had decreased probability of rare drops for some reason, so I had to run through the entire game with mediocre gear until I got a mod that fixed it.

Not to mention Duriel and a few other bosses are massive cunts when you're by yourself, especially if you're a Sorceress.

[Dr. Boogie]

D2 in solo mode had decreased probability of rare drops for some reason, so I had to run through the entire game with mediocre gear until I got a mod that fixed it.

And now you can't do that because mods are strictly prohibited. Well, technically you can do it, but I'm pretending piracy isn't an option.

Not to mention Duriel and a few other bosses are massive cunts when you're by yourself, especially if you're a Sorceress.

You run around shooting them as the sorceress, dodging their projectiles as necessary. In a lot of ways, I found the sorceress to be one of the easier classes for that reason, at least until they reintroduced elemental immunity in their mobs.

[Nick]

From what I've played of Diablo 1 with my friend it's a lot harder than I remember it being when I had it on the PS1.

[executioneer]

i thought the gear drops were fine, at least with players 8. o well

[Shyandquietguy]

I can not seem to not play D2 without a mod. I like bulletstorms, unmodded ain't shit to me. IN fact, I'm probably gonna install it and NOT play multi for the fact that I don't want to feel out of it.

[Guitar Woman]

Assassin master race, guys!

Although I think they might be just a tad overpowered. I didn't touch any of the kung-fu disciplines but I understand that if you spam the kick one, you can stunlock anything, including Baal.

[Zhukov]

I can not seem to not play D2 without a mod. I like bulletstorms, unmodded ain't shit to me. IN fact, I'm probably gonna install it and NOT play multi for the fact that I don't want to feel out of it.

What? So... you are going to play D2 with a mod?

[Shyandquietguy]

A mod to make it HARDER! More INTENSE! More EXCITING! Because I have owned this game everytime I mother fucking play it!! AND EVEN THEN IT WON'T STOP ME!!

DO YOU WANNA STOP ME? I WILL SHOVE MY KNEE INTO YOUR SKULL AND THE LAST THING YOU WILL HEAR IS A LOUD POP AS YOUR BRAIN LEAKS FROM YOUR EARS!!

[executioneer]

Assassin master race, guys!

Although I think they might be just a tad overpowered. I didn't touch any of the kung-fu disciplines but I understand that if you spam the kick one, you can stunlock anything, including Baal.

aw yeah trapsassins rule 4evs

[Shyandquietguy]

I had a Smiteadin named Christ-Puncher.

And a Chargedin named The Hamburglar. And I would use any weapon that would slow and constantly body camp players in non PVP games.

ROBBLE! ROBBLE!

[Zhukov]

A mod to make it HARDER! More INTENSE! More EXCITING! Because I have owned this game everytime I mother fucking play it!! AND EVEN THEN IT WON'T STOP ME!!

DO YOU WANNA STOP ME? I WILL SHOVE MY KNEE INTO YOUR SKULL AND THE LAST THING YOU WILL HEAR IS A LOUD POP AS YOUR BRAIN LEAKS FROM YOUR EARS!!

No, you're fine. I was just double checking I got my head around all your double negatives correctly.

[mew barios]

if youre playing in hardcore mode with the 8 player thing on in hell difficulty certainly you feel a little challenged? :< i lost many characters to a super fast multishot lightning enchanted monster that ran headfirst into a frozen orb or something from out of nowhere.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

aw yeah trapsassins rule 4evs

Thought you said Tresspassins 4evs first.

I used to play as a runaroundbowazon.

[Grislygus]

I was always either a spazbarian or a necrosplosionfag

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I was always either a spazbarian or a necrosplosionfag

was the spazbarian where you just hold down whirlwind forever? I tried googling spazbarian with only minor results.

[Fathom Zero]

Sounds like a great game.

[Nick]

I tried going rogue/sorcerer up against The Butcher a few minutes ago with a friend. We got whipped pretty hard.

[Grislygus]

was the spazbarian where you just hold down whirlwind forever? I tried googling spazbarian with only minor results.

That's when Grislygus uses a specialized monster barbarian with stupid high leap skill to frantically duck monsters and blitzkrieg way, way, waaaaay ahead of everyone else in the party every time they catch up with him, soaking up the experience that everyone else gets from the hordes of monsters he leaves behind and selfishly looting everything ahead of him (except when he inevitably starts getting his ass after running into a vicious monster combo/special monster and runs like a bitch) and then randomly makes up a word to describe this behavior, ESPECIALLY in the Arcane Sanctuary where he can leap across the gaps

[k0k0]

About 33 minutes of skyrim starting around the 5 minute mark.

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Kinda lower quality cam stuff, but it still gets me excited.

[Zhukov]

I really liked the Paladin in Diablo, and I'm sad he's gone.

[Pentegarn]

Imma jump in on the D3 talk now that I am caught up on things.

Battle.net has been nothing but shit since its inception. Once upon a time I played WoW and never had my account hacked, then battle.net made me change my account name to my email address and in less than a week my account got hacked.

I do not believe in coincidences in this case.

There are about a couple dozen really good reasons why forcing online for what should be off line play is a shitty idea, but the one that sticks out above them all is having battle.net forced down my throat yet again.

Damn shame I won't be getting it unless they change this because before this news I was really looking forward to D3

[k0k0]

You could join the ever growing group of sea dogs yarrrr

[Zhukov]

I might just do that.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

We need to group up on D3 once it comes out.

Dibs on Demon Hunter.....

[Shyandquietguy]

You could join the ever growing group of sea dogs yarrrr

What?

Also, is anyone else excited for "From Dust"? That game just looks shiny as hell and I'm a sucker for such a thing. It's also being directed by Eric Chahi and I loved Out of this World.

Only thing that's a little off for me is that the recommended requirements are a quad processor. This is not a game to go minimum if it turns out awesome. :(

I might just have to say fuck it even though my work place is closing down.

PS Pentegarn, maybe you should have not made your password 123Whichladycanitbe?

[Fathom Zero]

Preordered it. :O

[Dr. Boogie]

Tried the demo on Live. It got real tiresome, picking up dirt from one end of the map and dumping it on the other. That, and the awful AI pathfinding just made the whole thing really tedious.

[Fathom Zero]

I think it'll handle a lot better on the PC.

At least, I'm putting all of my hope in it. :(

[k0k0]

I'm sure the AI will still have pathing problems on the PC, but I'm also positive that it will handle better with a mouse. I didn't get it on my 360 mainly because I don't have space for it. I have a 20 gig hard drive and 6 gigs are taken up by rockband songs sadly while the rest are games I've downloaded. But I will get this game eventually, when I either buy a bigger hard drive or buy one of the newer 360s since it looks like it'd be a pretty calming game.

[Fathom Zero]

I got a new Arcade version (at the time) and a used 120GB drive.

Cheapest option, I'd say.

[k0k0]

Yeah, I'd prefer to get a new one. The one I have now is the original 'core' version because I didn't get in line at Target until 5 pm the night before release. I thought there'd be nobody there, but there were 11 people there and the Target only had 10 pro models.

Anyway, my current one doesn't want to read discs unless I open and close the drive about 30 times when putting a new one in, so it'd be beneficial to do that.

[Chojin]

Damn shame I won't be getting it unless they change this because before this news I was really looking forward to D3

http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-bMtwfTg/0/L/i-bMtwfTg-L.jpg

[executioneer]

i'm not buying it when it comes out because my computer probably won't be able to run it :(

[k0k0]

I bet if you do anything to alter the files or the data, like use a hex editor to cheat, they'll notice since you're online, and ban you from playing your own game. That's the thing I'm afraid of. I like to cheat sometimes, just to see what kind of crazy shit I can do if my character has unlimited mana or whatever. That's what having an always online + weapon shop does. I could care less about selling my items but I want to be able to change the game I bought any way I want. I'll probably end up buying a copy and downloading a copy, then just copying my character file over to the 'offline' version when I want to mess around.

[Pentegarn]

http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-bMtwfTg/0/L/i-bMtwfTg-L.jpg

That comic is how I found out that news :lol

But it isn't the stay online thing, it is the battle.net thing that keeps me from buying it. Like I said earlier, battle.net sucks ass and making your email your account name just means your email gets hacked too when your account gets hacked.

[Fathom Zero]

I bet if you do anything to alter the files or the data, like use a hex editor to cheat, they'll notice since you're online, and ban you from playing your own game.

Not if your computer isn't jacked into the online.

[Fathom Zero]

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/11/first-on-rps-serious-sam-3-hands-on/#more-68957

I WANT THIS TO BE OUT TODAY.

[k0k0]

Not if your computer isn't jacked into the online.

I don't get it. Your computer needs to be world wide web connected to play the game.

[executioneer]

i think he means if you patch it so it doesn't need to be online

i.e. COMMIT CRIME

[Fathom Zero]

gormless

Not if some enterprising individual patches the pirated version to make it believe it's online all the time.

Which has happened before with all of these games with said DRM.

[k0k0]

Oh yeah, yeah... that's why I'll probably have one legit version and one pirated. So I can fuck around with one and not get banned. Cuz I'm pretty sure you can't play with other players on a pirated version.

[Fathom Zero]

Yes, you can't use online multiplayer when you're not connected to the internet.

[mew barios]

i've always played diablo games with my brother so i'm gonna end up buying it regardless. from the description i'll prolly hafta wait til someone comes up with a private server that i can run locally before i can play singleplayer offline. if it wasn't a game from a series that i've traditionally spent 90% of my time in singleplayer then i don't think it would matter to me, but i guess blizz noticed how incredibly antisocial diablo is and wanted to mmo it up a little.

[Grislygus]

I just saw a trailer for Killer Instinct 3 on youtube, suddenly decided that I would somehow find the extra cash for a video game system, then I realized it was some random faggot dicking around

Fucking cocktease motherfuckers, man :(

[Nick]

I just saw a trailer for Killer Instinct 3 on youtube, suddenly decided that I would somehow find the extra cash for a video game system, then I realized it was some random faggot dicking around

Fucking cocktease motherfuckers, man :(
This was a good intro. :(

U9JbuuFKiuo




New Counter-Strike is coming.

http://zoknowsgaming.com/2011/08/12/valve-confirms-counterstrike-global-offensive-ps3-xbox-360-pc/

[k0k0]

Yeah, I'm pretty excited about the new cs. I played the hell out of 1.6 and source.

[kahljorn]

I STILL PLAY DIABLO 2 SOMETIMES

I HAD A PALADIN AND I LEARNED THAT PALADINS ARE THE GAYEST CLASS UNLESS YOU USE HAMMERS

ALSO I THINK IM GOING TO PREORDER SWTOR ANYBODY ELSE GONNA GET IT?

[k0k0]

I already pre-ordered SWTOR. Don't get me started on that mess. They didn't send me my preorder code, so I emailed them. They said that they had no record of me preordering it. I got charged the 5.41 for the preorder. I called customer support and they said they had no record until about 10 minutes into the call he said he finally found it. He couldn't give me a preorder code though. He said that they don't handle that, the website does. So I still am missing a preorder code for the game I preordered. On top of not being able to find that I preordered it, they also tried to sell me a bunch of games on their origin service. I am starting to hate EA. I do have the game coming to me though, when it ships.

[Fathom Zero]

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I've got goosebumps.

[Fathom Zero]

The DOTA2 Tournament in Germany starts at 3 here in Central Time. I'm forcing myself to stay up late.

[Fathom Zero]

I've got goosebumps.
And I'm gonna have to install Origin for this bullshit. Goddamnit.

[Fathom Zero]

From Dust on the PC has been a tremendous disappointment. The idea of the game itself is fantastic, but the PC version is a buggy-as-fuck, horrific port with finicky controls.

I've never been so disappointed in something I spent money on, I think.

[Fathom Zero]

:O

I'm excited for the Vita, all of the sudden. Shame that my friend wants me to get a 3DS. :\

I wanna get my Persona and Bioshock on.

[Nick]

I was a winner in a fanart contest and scored myself a closed beta invite for Path of Exile (http://www.pathofexile.com/). I'm loving it, it's such a fun game.

[k0k0]

The opening cinematic for gears of war 3. I can't wait to get my dudebros together on live and plow through this game. It'll sound like four Tim the Tool Man Taylors jammed into the same room.

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30 more days.

[Fathom Zero]

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The Battle for Stalingrad was always the most fascinating to me, so I love seeing in in videogames. Naturally, Red Orchestra makes me very excited. :zhukov

[Fathom Zero]

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I guess I'm just going to use this thread to post trailers for upcoming games. :\

But if you didn't like Demon's Souls, you can fuck off with that noise. :rolleyes I ain't gon' hear that shit. My favorite game in years.

[k0k0]

Never played Demon's Souls since I only have a 360, but I am planning on picking up so many games over the coming months that my wallet will be screaming for me to stop.

Here's a list of the games I have preordered:

Gears of War 3, Skyrim, Dark Souls, Saint's Row 3, Batman Arkham City, Rage, Dead Island, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, Silent Hill HD Collection, Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3, Battlefield 3, Assassin's Creed Revelations, and Star Wars: The Old Republic.

So overall, I'm looking at about 650 dollars worth of games. I may have to cut a few out if I am too busy though. But damn, there are almost too many releases at the same time. I already bought Deus Ex. And I'd like Dead Rising 2: Off the Record, but there's just too much to play coming up.

[darkvare]

The opening cinematic for gears of war 3. I can't wait to get my dudebros together on live and plow through this game. It'll sound like four Tim the Tool Man Taylors jammed into the same room.

_EQ-fQoDXwA

30 more days.
i can't wait for this my brother pre ordered the golden retro lancer and the limited edition

[Fathom Zero]

http://www.japanator.com/rejoice-more-screens-details-on-the-new-persona-games-20251.phtml

So wait, a Persona fighting game? da fug?

The upside is it's made by Arc System Works, of Guilty Gear and Blazblue. They've got a mad decent pedigree.

I still don't understand, though.

[Nick]

Persona is some boring ass shit.

[k0k0]

I'm debating getting back into Lord of the Rings Online when the expansion for it comes out at the end of September. The game was pretty fun when I last messed with it but got kind of boring as I had been level 65 for several months with the best armor and nowhere to go from there. Now that they're adding 3 new zones and content up to level 75, I'm thinking about getting back into it, but then again, there are some factors that keep me from getting excited.

I'll have to figure out what my kinship is doing again. I'm technically an officer in it even though I haven't been there to help them in about 5 months, but I had helped pretty much every single person in it level up to 65. They all treated me as some kind of hero/god. Was weird shit. Whenever I log in to say hi real quick they all try and lick my balls. Then the content itself looks like it could only hold me for 2 weeks. After that, I'd be level 75 by then with nothing to do but raid. And really I don't want to be maxed out with nothing to do again.

And third, I'll have to relearn how to play my character. I don't remember what any of my skills are. I was probably the best runekeeper damage-wise out there at the time I was playing, not to be a bragging dick. I just don't know if I can get to the point where I'm machine-like in my skill. And do I really want to get there for maybe 2 weeks worth of content.

So I'm running all of these things through in my head. I just don't know if I should even bother until they put out yet another expansion in 2 years so that I can go through a larger chunk of gametime.

[Pentegarn]

What server you play on? I have thought of going back, though leveling from 52-75... yeeeesh

[Fathom Zero]

Hay, has anyone here played RUSE? Either on the PC or the consoles? I thought it looked cool at first, but I never got around to it and I was wondering if it'd be worth checking out for the lay person that doesn't go terribly deep into RTS things.

[k0k0]

My server on Lotro is Windfola. At least at 52, you're 5 or so levels from leaving Moria. After you leave Moria, the leveling is pretty fast. Everything seems streamlined after that. I can't believe how much time I spent on the game getting kin with every faction so I could get a single horse and title. Oh, I also got my fishing up all the way so I could get the Lord of the Stream title. What a retarded thing to do.

[Fathom Zero]

http://kotaku.com/5839046/the-syndicate-reboot-is-real-first-details-leak-out-of-ea

You know how Deus EX: HR was good? Well Syndicate is going to be as bad as Deus Ex was good.

And X-Com is going to middle about without a purpose at all. :(

[Pentegarn]

My server on Lotro is Windfola. At least at 52, you're 5 or so levels from leaving Moria. After you leave Moria, the leveling is pretty fast. Everything seems streamlined after that. I can't believe how much time I spent on the game getting kin with every faction so I could get a single horse and title. Oh, I also got my fishing up all the way so I could get the Lord of the Stream title. What a retarded thing to do.

See now I have kind of a reason for playing LOTRO since that is my server too.

My kinship went all lame and required you be grouped at all times and sometimes I just wanted to do resource instances or do skirmishes without dragging someone along. So I just stopped playing. Is your kinship recruiting people still?

PS I just realized I am actually 62ish not 52ish. Slightly less daunting to level to 75 from there

[k0k0]

I have no idea. I haven't really logged in for about 2 months. I just checked right now and it looks like they're still pretty active. They don't go on the big raids, but they do instances, at least they did when I was last on. The guild name is Elendil's Wrath.

My character is named pretty shittily since they changed my name twice and banned me for 5 days while I thought about my bad name choices. First name I had was Goldentinkler Peemaker, then Tremendous Johnson... now I'm Morveer. Just shitty Morveer. Oh well.

I may start to play it more soon with the expansion coming out. Still on the fence.

[k0k0]

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I know when people turn to great fighting games, they always laugh off dead or alive games. Fuck them. That was my fighting game. I was one of the top five hundred on xbox live for a while on DOA4, which I was pretty proud of at the time. I really can't wait til DOA5. I hope it is just as good without itagaki because I want to get back to stomping people down online with my hori fight stick.

[Dimnos]

I would be willing to say DoA is THE best fighting game. This is because to be good at it you dont learn crazy combos or special moves. To be good at DoA you have to know and read your opponent very well. At least with good players anyway.

[Dimnos]

Oh and that video makes me drool with anticipation. :love

[k0k0]

Yeah, it doesn't look like the graphics are hugely better from DOA4, from what I can tell. But the lighting looks great and supposedly they are going to try and make some great places to fight in also. I always loved the DOA multi-layered fighting arenas, riding people down stairs and such. Knowing your arena, knowing when to attack and when to counter and how exactly to counter each attack is critical. I just loved the game so much. I loved toying with people by laying on the ground as Brad Wong and they'd not know what to do unless they were good. It's pretty much the only fighting game I'm truly excited for right now.

[Zhukov]

Yeah, I really liked the Dead or Alive games; the countering system just seemed to work really well. Bayman was my character.

[Pentegarn]

Didn't DOA make a lady wrestling game

[Dimnos]

Your probably thinking rumble roses, but no they didnt make that. They did however make Dead or Alive extreme beach volleyball that was surprisingly awesome.

[Pentegarn]

Yeah that's the one, I thought the wrestler broad from the first DOA was in that game

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

http://www.wildaboutmovies.com/images_4/DOAMoviePoster2.jpg

It actually was really good. Kevin Nash is ridiculous in it.

[Pentegarn]

I always bet on vidjamagame movies being bad.

Warmest regards,
Super Mario Brothers the movie
Double Dragon the movie
Mortal Kombat 2
Street Fighter the movie
All Uwe Boll movies

[k0k0]

I actually liked the Hitman movie. Was my favorite video game movie.

[k0k0]

So I'm getting gears of war 3 coming in on Tuesday, but reading about it til then.. I just read that they are selling skins for weapons on day 1. I was kind of pissed about it seeing how they could have them as unlocks for doing good in the game. Then I saw that they had floral print and hot pink weapons. I'm probably going to end up buying those.

[darkvare]

i think a lot of the colored guns are unlockable i have the golden retro lancer unlocked already thanks to the beta

[k0k0]

Oh yeah, a lot of colored guns are unlockable, but then about 21 others are day 1 dlc.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I actually liked the Hitman movie. Was my favorite video game movie.

I really liked Hitman too. Kinda liked Max Payne too because it just Mark Wahlberg going crazy.

[Pentegarn]

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[k0k0]

So it turns out my Gears of War 3 disc shipped fucked up. It reads but freezes if it's been on a menu for more than 20 seconds. It also won't install to my system. Says the disc is scratched or dirty. So Amazon will send me a new one but it'll take 3 days. I am never buying games online again.

[Fathom Zero]

Yes because that's Amazon's fault and not in any way a manufacturing error.

I agree that that reaction is justified.

Unless you're being sarcastic and making a joke. A shit joke. Because you're shitty.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Well it's amazons fault for not having an outlet near him he go and ballkick them at.

[k0k0]

Haha, it's cool. My buddy came over and let me install off of his disc and it's working off the bad disc til I return it. It's not amazon's fault I know. But it sucks not being able to directly return something, so I'll never buy games online again. That said, Gears of War 3 online is fun as shit.

[Zhukov]

Yes because that's Amazon's fault and not in any way a manufacturing error.

I agree that that reaction is justified.

Unless you're being sarcastic and making a joke. A shit joke. Because you're shitty.

Unless this is some kind of shitty, sarcastic joke... because it's the same reason I tend to not buy certain things online: you can't return them quickly or easily if things fuck up.

[Fathom Zero]

Amazon is extremely good about their returns policy. They usually give you free shipping, credit your account, the whole shebang.

Better than most. I don't think I've bought from anyone besides them and Newegg because anywhere else is just a tremendous waste of time and not indicative in the least of how good shopping for things online can be.

Or you're just the kind of person that lets bad experiences color your view of something for life and then talks about it on an internet forum.

I hope you're not one of those people.

[Zhukov]

I'm sorry, but I honestly don't give a flying fuck if it's Amazon or Ebay or anyone else; I'd rather buy expensive clothing, shoes, whitegoods, furniture, and.... games in a shop down the road rather than online. I do, however, buy a lot of other shit onine.

I don't care how humane their policies are; I don't want to wait for it to get here only to have to arrange to have it shipped back (free or not) when I want or need it right away. I don't want to buy something online, wait a week + for it to arrive and then find out it's the wrong size.

I'm guessing Koko is the same since it would have sucked if the game was fucked and he missed playing with his bros. It really would have.

It's not 'one bad experience'; it's a preference for efficiency.

EDIT: Also, get off Amazon's tip.

[Fathom Zero]

I knew you were going to say that last bit.

And it's incredibly disheartening to live in a world where a matter of a few days inconvenience matters so much to some. I thought my life was bad.

EDIT: Fuck white people and their bitchass problems.

[Zhukov]

Why shouldn't it matter when I can get it in half a day? Plus, for me, it's not a few days, it's at least a week to get most stuff delivered, and then another week to send it back if there is a problem, and then another week for them to re-deliver.

Why settle for second best? It's not white man whingeing about his late video game, it's a proud member of humanity marveling at the feat that our technology and ingenuity has granted us, and not settling for anything less.

I can get it quickly... why wait?

[Fathom Zero]

Okay.

But there is a fat red line between "it's closer and more convenient, so that's my preference" and "I'm never buying anything online again ever never no way."

[k0k0]

I just don't like waiting for something that I paid for to be here and functioning the release date. I buy a ton of shit online, but never games that I really want to be playing ever again. I may buy games that are time wasters through amazon. I buy a bunch of guitar stuff online and have no problems. But something as fragile as a small circular disc, trusted in the hands of someone who throws packages around, isn't really gonna make me want to use them again. I don't want to have to wait to play with my friends online. Sure, it's not me starving or anything, but it is something I pay for a service to get. And next time, I'll just go do it myself at the store. That way if it doesn't work, I can just drive 3 miles and get another instead of waiting 5 days or more.

[Fathom Zero]

That sounds far too reasonable. >:

[Zhukov]

"I'm never buying anything online again ever never no way."

Nobody said that.

[Fathom Zero]

I'll never buy games online again.
I am never buying games online again.

And it's called hyperbole, douche. I was making fun of the fact that someone used 'never' - an absolute - to describe something that would happen later in time.

But if you want, I could do a miniature lecture on writing well and pendantry.

Your turn.

[Zhukov]

:lol ok, so I guess there ISN'T a big, fat line between never buying games online and wanting more convenience, because that's why I never buy games online; it's more convenient.

Both of us have said we buy lots of other stuff online. Leave it be, please.

[Fathom Zero]

I won't because I want to win. >:

[k0k0]

You cannot win because you are not right.

[Zomboid]

I could do a miniature lecture on writing well and pendantry.

No, you couldn't. At least, not based on anything that I've seen from you.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

:lol

[Zomboid]

I was writing a longer post about how I agree with Zhukov and k0k0, based on how stupid it is to order a game online, pay for it and the shipping, and then potentially have to send it back and wait even longer to play it...but then I accidentally hit the back button, so fuck it.

I buy shirts online because it's just awesome for unique stuff (teefury, fright-rags, etc), and I buy books because they're cheap and I'm usually not pre-ordering new ones. Shit, even DVDs. Games, though...that's just stupid. As stupid as trying to condemn people in first world countries, in 2011, for opting for the more convenient purchase methods.

[Fathom Zero]

but this hole I'm digging feels so good

[executioneer]

i've ordered games online before, but it was only when that was the only way to get exclusives (i.e. the t-shirt I got with fallout 3 collectors edition). Plus, it was from the online store of a retailer that actually has a storefront near me, so I might've still been able to return/exchange a faulty disc

[Fathom Zero]

let's argue about how to get video games

[executioneer]

NO

[kahljorn]

first you find a seedy street and look around for a guy in a puffy jacket possibly with a backpack
then you catch his eye and then look all nonchalant and when you walk by you go whatup and maybe give him a secret handshake

then you ask him to hook you up and hopefully he has the PAL version of games you want

[Sam]

I ORDER GAMES ONLINE BECAUSE I'M A GROWN ASS MAN WITH A JOB AND I DON'T GIVE A FUCK FUCK FUCK.

ALSO AMAZON HAS RELEASE DAY DELIVERY AND I'M USUALLY AT WORK ANYWAYS SO A NICE GAME IS WAITING FOR ME TO GET HOME AND THEN I STRIP NUDE AND PLAY IT SPRAWLED OUT ON THE LIVING ROOM FLOOR WITH AN ICE CHEST FULL OF BEER SO I DON'T HAVE TO GET UP AND I JUST PISS IN A BUCKET BECAUSE OF ALL THE FUCKS I DON'T GIVE.

[k0k0]

Well apparently my UPS doesn't deliver here until 8 pm, so in order to get my game I have to wait til the end of the day. Plus if it's broken, I get to strip down nude and play with my wiener because there's nothing else to do for the next 3 days. Of course I do have a shelf of like 80 other games, so I am talking out of my ass.

[Sam]

FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES LET'S JUST SAY THAT I RECEIVE A GAME THAT IS BROKEN HERE IS WHAT I WOULD DO

EXCLAIM "OH MY, IT APPEARS THAT MY GAME IS NOT FUNCTIONING"
GO ONLINE AND DEAL WITH IT LIKE A FUCKING GROWN UP INSTEAD OF THROWING A FIT LIKE A RETARDED 8 YEAR OLD
MASTURBATE TO INTERNET PORN
LIFE GOES ON

ALSO I NEVER GET BROKEN SHITTY GAMES (UNLESS YOU COUNT WHEN I GOT BRINK BECAUSE THAT GAME WAS FUNCTIONALLY SHITTY AND BROKEN :lol) BECAUSE I AM A GOD FEARING TAX PAYING AMERICAN AND GODBLESS US ALL.

USA USA USA USA USA

[k0k0]

I live in the USA and my game was fuckin broken in a non-working way, probably due to UPS's need to throw around every package that isn't 60 pounds or more. I did deal with it like a grown up, but I also felt the need to complain because it was my first time ordering a game online and this kind of ruined it for me.

[Sam]

I think you are just a filthy sinner and probably unclean in the eyes of our Lord, Jesus Christ, PRAISE HIS NAME IN THE HIGHEST.

[k0k0]

I get enough of that talk from my mother. She also declares me a filthy sinner. But she says it a lot more politely.

[Dimnos]

If you were a real American you would have gotten in your pickup truck, spent the $6 in gas to drive to the store, and just buy it in person. That way if your game is damaged you can just take it the fuck back. :rolleyes

[kahljorn]

if you're a filthy sinner then god will break your videogames

[Dr. Boogie]

I mostly buy my games online because it's cheaper, and because I don't mind waiting on account of all the other damn games I've got in the backlog.

Sometimes I wonder when this endless cycle of buying games and putting them away until I play the games I bought earlier first started. I think it was shortly after I started making my own money.

[Dimnos]

Do you not buy new games until you have progressed through your backlog? Then when your ready to play what was a new game, you can buy it on the cheap used? Or are you like me and if you dont get it now you forget about it and end up never playing it?