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kahljorn
Jun 24th, 2011, 03:02 PM
oxblood what are your favorite rpgs that i probably havent played

my favorite games are the tales games :( i need to get tales of the abyss

Guitar Woman
Jun 24th, 2011, 04:15 PM
What do people see in the Tales series?

I thought Phantasia on the SNES was all right, probably just because it didn't have any voice acting, but I don't think I hate any game more than I hate Tales of Symphonia.

Everything about it is so completely wrong that I'm still not sure if the developers weren't trying make the worst game they possibly could.

Phoenix Gamma
Jun 24th, 2011, 04:33 PM
The combat was cool. And some of the music.

Haven't touched any post-Symphonia, though. When I replayed it, I realized the story wasn't as cool as when I was 16.

@kahljorn: the Mario and Luigi games are fantastic (except the second one), and the Paper Mario games are great. Also depending on how tolerant you are of grinding, Persona 3 and 4 are really cool. And depending on how old school you are (as in, Phantasy Star oldschool) the Etrian Odyssey games are addictive.

King Hadas
Jun 24th, 2011, 05:29 PM
my favorite games are the tales games :( i need to get tales of the abyss
Definitely, Tales of Abyss is the best; I recommend it to everyone. After playing it I went through all the Tales games I owned for a comparative good time but none of them got my dick as hard. >:

Tales of ___ Reviews!

Tales of Symphonia
Played it when I was younger, left no impression which isn't a good sign. Tried it again now, lame. Also It sucks how every other character could fight on a 3d plane while I was stuck on a 2d one (tale of abyss isn't like that).

Tales of Legendia
The cover art makes the characters look interesting, they aren't. Nothing in this game is.

Tales of Phantasia
I played it in spanish and the story seemed more engaging than jrpg's usually are. The fighting mechanics are clunky though.

Tales of Destiny 2 (AKA Tales of Eternia)
Played it when I was younger and it left a huge impression on me. Playing it now I'm still impressed, though it's not as good as in memory. The voice acting is awful but you can turn it off which shows great foresight on the designers part.

Tales of Destiny
meh

kahljorn
Jun 24th, 2011, 05:42 PM
What do people see in the Tales series?What do you see in yourself besides an annoying know it all

I love tales of phantasia that's probably my favorite rpg ever. The bad guy in that game was so bad ass and the time travel was very well thought out.

Tales of legendia did kind of suck.. at least the story. But i guess theres like a post-game game or something? i dunno i kind of gave up on it. I hated that the whole game takes place on that dumb island. The fighting was cool in it though. I remember getting some awesome combos.

i have tales of vesparia and its pretty cool but i wish it was less childish. The graphics for it are pretty awesome, the whole thing is like playing an anime basically. It had a lot of really cool elements but it would be nice if it was a little darker and had less silliness. Also I thought the ending was kind of disappointing and i wish there was more abilities, but the ones that were in the game were cool. fortunately its one of those games that has replay value.. i still need to do my second playthrough.

ill definitley have to pick up abyss.. i need to buy a new playstation 2 and mod it now that i have some money :lol
i also like the star ocean games a lot. Never played the newest star ocean, maybe i should try that. last hope new hope whatever was ok.

King Hadas
Jun 24th, 2011, 06:37 PM
The only Star Ocean game I've ever played was End of Time. I remember three things about it.

One of the major boss fights is with a black man :eek

The incredible twist :eek

And that the ending was so boring I couldn't sit through it.

It had a lot of really cool elements but it would be nice if it was a little darker and had less silliness.
You'll like Abyss then, maybe. The endings kind of disappointing too. It's one of those endings where the fate of the main character is left to ambiguity, which is great but then after the credits the designers pussed out and ruin it.

Tales of legendia did kind of suck.. at least the story. But i guess theres like a post-game game or something? i dunno i kind of gave up on it. I hated that the whole game takes place on that dumb island. The fighting was cool in it though. I remember getting some awesome combos.
If a game sucks I can let that go without any real rancor, but Legendia's cover art totally tricked me. You have this zazzy looking frankenstein guy, looking all original and interesting, but in-game his the most generic jRPG hero there ever was. Seemed like a cynical maneuver on Namco's part.

OxBlood
Jun 26th, 2011, 12:42 PM
oxblood what are your favorite rpgs that i probably havent played

my favorite games are the tales games :( i need to get tales of the abyss

Hm, I suppose there are no exotic RPGs among my favorites...let´s see.

My favorite RPG-Experience (not in terms of gameplay, in terms of story and pacing ant things like that) is Persona 3, I´ve never played anything as gripping as that. P4 is better in terms of gameplay but the story isn´t as good, neither is the music.

I do like the Tales games but I can´t stand the battlesystem any more. Back when I first played Tales of Eternity, I was blown away and Tales of Vesperia is among the best RPGs of the recent years if it weren´t for the battles. But that´s just me, they´re great games.

I fucking love the Shadow Hearts games, at least one and two, those are among the best I´ve ever played. Yeah, I know I´m a sucker for dark stories, anything with demon´s or god and stuff like that, can´t help it ;)

I also love Suikoden 2 and Parasite Eve though PE is only half-RPG I guess...



BTW, I just finished Shadows of the damned. One big "meh" is about all I can say about it. Way too little effort was put into that game. Story, Gameplay, Characters, everything´s lacking. The musics good though. Classic rental I´d say.

kahljorn
Jun 26th, 2011, 02:29 PM
guess ill try persona

OxBlood
Jun 26th, 2011, 02:59 PM
You can save yourself some nerves if you look up the bosses´ weaknesses, cause many times you simply won´t know what it is, bringing the wrong Personae and losing needlessly.


Just saying.


And I finished another one. Dante´s Inferno. Damn, what a great game and no one told me...just gorgeous. 9/10.

Dr. Boogie
Jun 27th, 2011, 02:18 AM
Just finished Yakuza 4. I liked it a lot, but I don't have the patience to go back and try to finish all the challenges. Akiyama was my favorite, apart from that odd moment when he refused to help a mother because she wouldn't work in the sex industry.

And good on them for actually including an explanation of the rules of Mahjongg this time, although it still made no sense to me.

My one request is that the stop using the knocked-over-villain-produces-gun-and-shoots-main-character bit to insert needless drama into the plot. These guys are supposed to be experienced mob types, how could they not know to check their enemies for weapons?

LordSappington
Jun 28th, 2011, 04:11 AM
I signed up for playtesting some game on July 7; hopefully I'll get in. My payment is two brand-new, in-the-wrapper games of my choice :eek
It's like I'm really eight again
But still, it might be fun

Chojin
Jun 28th, 2011, 04:16 AM
i guess i'm playing league of legends

tried 4 characters so far and still don't like it

darkvare
Jun 28th, 2011, 03:08 PM
just fnished episode 5 of the back to the future games the story is great and the ending is hilarious

Dimnos
Jun 29th, 2011, 12:58 PM
i guess i'm playing league of legends

tried 4 characters so far and still don't like it

Yeah it takes a little to find one that fits your play style. Not to mention as you play more and learn the other champs and how to play against them you just get better.

Fathom Zero
Jun 29th, 2011, 02:25 PM
I was playing League of Legends until the client crashed six times in a row, and subsequently giving me two 'Leaves'. Fuck this game and its mother.

executioneer
Jun 29th, 2011, 02:57 PM
got Mount & Blade Warband last night, haven't gotten to play yet. TONIGHT I WILL CHOP OFF SOME HORSES' FACES

Fathom Zero
Jun 29th, 2011, 03:55 PM
OH MAN WILLIE. You're going to have to write a journal for it.

Dimnos
Jun 29th, 2011, 08:50 PM
Uncharted 3 multiplayer. Its boss, even if they only have 2 damn maps. :)

darkvare
Jun 29th, 2011, 09:17 PM
Uncharted 3 multiplayer. Its boss, even if they only have 2 damn maps. :)
the thing keeps locking up on me add me on psn thought donvarone

executioneer
Jun 30th, 2011, 03:23 AM
OH MAN WILLIE. You're going to have to write a journal for it.

day 1: got hassled by a street mugger in Sargoth. a merchant popped up from out of nowhere after I chopped the mugger's face off, asking me to help him find his brother or something like that, wasn't paying attention. he gave me some silver to recruit "at least five men" with.

day 2: saw a band of seven looters skulking about in the forest near the first village I was going to recruit from. Had a little bit more difficulty than I should have murdering all of them from horseback, gotta learn how to steer better. Got some more cash from their stinking corpses, plus all their disgusting unwashed armor and the rusty butcher knives they were armed with to sell to some flea market or other.

day 5: after a bit of recruiting and a few more skirmishes with future dead men, I returned to the tavern where I was to meet with the merchant with 28 recruits following. Merchant seemed surprised by this, sent me after a band of thieves that he supposed knew about his brother.

day 5 part 2: caught up with five thieves. didn't NEED to, but I killed three of them myself before my men showed up. Got cut up pretty badly though, need to be more careful next time. One of the ones I didn't kill spilled the location of their hideout and promised to lead a virtuous life from this point onward. Stripped him naked and covered him with pig's blood, told him to hope the wolves caught his scent before he froze to death.

day 7: found the bandit hideout. looked more like some kids having a bonfire on the beach, but whatever, killed them all. idiot merchant's bigger idiot brother is free now, hooray.

day 9: back in Sargoth. Merchant wants me to help him expose the guard captain for complicity in helping the bandits do banditry. sounded pretty boring until he mentioned that I'd get to personally kill a bunch of the captain's cronies.

day 9 part 2: Only got to kill five of them, boo. Merchant seemed disappointed because a lot of his men got injured. Told him they needed to stop standing behind people I'm trying to shoot at. Parted less than amicably.

day 17: Did a bunch of recruiting and odd jobs (collected taxes, trained villagers to fight bandits, hunted down a murderer for a bounty). Have 57 Nords following me now. Found out they don't like not eating, fortunately there was an undefended Vaegir village nearby. Forcing the villagers to give us stuff was so enjoyable we went and did it about five more times. I see no possible negative consequences for this in the future.

kahljorn
Jun 30th, 2011, 11:36 AM
that game sounds really fun ;/

OxBlood
Jul 1st, 2011, 08:04 AM
I actually bought it after reading that post. Played it all afternoon yesterday. I can´t really say how many times I fucked up already. Bandits kidnap me, Farmers kill my horse (and they refuse to hand over the fucking salad), lords hate me left and right but I´m still having a blast playing :D Focussing on archery mostly cause it´s a lot of fun though cleaving some barbarians in half with a greatsword is fun too :)

It´s on sale on steam btw.

executioneer
Jul 1st, 2011, 11:50 AM
it was $12 on amazon last time i checked, how much is it on steam?

executioneer
Jul 1st, 2011, 11:51 AM
also some of those things aren't really in the game you don't realyl get to cover people in pig's blood in game

Fathom Zero
Jul 1st, 2011, 03:22 PM
I focus on riding my horse as fast as possible to make the people i blow pastlose their limbs. That or I stand from a mile away because I'm such a pimp with the crossbow.

Mount and Blade has a steep learning curve, but if you find the right groove and get into it right, it gets crazy involved.

executioneer
Jul 1st, 2011, 03:45 PM
man I absolutely love shooting shit with a bow in this game. It's one thing getting headshots in a game where the bullets go right on your target reticle, when you actually have to adjust for distance and elevation and you still get five in a row it's so awesome

Shyandquietguy
Jul 1st, 2011, 11:28 PM
Just got Terraria and I haven't really played much to go very far.

executioneer
Jul 2nd, 2011, 04:35 AM
mount&blade update:
Signed up as a merc with the Nords. I managed to very nearly get captured once (all my men died, and I ran away). However, after improving my equipment, recruiting and training more troops, I managed to utterly annihilate a force of Swadian troops that outnumbered me 108 to 58 with only 13 troops killed (and they were all poor-quality troops anyways). I personally killed at least a dozen Swadian archers myself. Signed on to another month's contract with the Nords. Hopefully this time they'll actually ask me to do something, all the battles I've gotten in have been completely on my own volition.

LordSappington
Jul 2nd, 2011, 04:38 AM
I bought the id games pack on Steam. It's on ale right now. So, 22 games for $30. GET IT NOW

executioneer
Jul 2nd, 2011, 05:02 AM
ehh i've already got all the GOOD games in that pack :(

Chojin
Jul 2nd, 2011, 06:23 AM
playing Omikron: the Nomad Soul on the dreamcast

it's an open-world cyberpunk game by a french company, so i already loved it before i bought it

Fathom Zero
Jul 2nd, 2011, 06:33 AM
It was made by David Cage. Eeeeeeew.

Yeah, I'd wanna play it.

Nick
Jul 2nd, 2011, 09:45 PM
I've been pretty much just playing TF2 right now. All these weapons and hats and crap. Why can't I hold it all?

Shyandquietguy
Jul 3rd, 2011, 12:39 AM
Playing more Terraria!

OxBlood
Jul 4th, 2011, 03:40 AM
Terraria is a nice little game, I think they put new stuff in since I last played it but I´m not that motivated.

I can´t really seem to progress much in Mount&Blade. I think I sided with the wrong guys and now the one Jarl that liked me is my enemy and I have to start over with some other guy again...all I want is to slaughter dudes and get a piece of land for it. A little caslte maybe. Can´t be that much to ask for...

executioneer
Jul 4th, 2011, 04:34 AM
I've got a castle and a little village now. Best thing that's happened so far is beating a 200+ strong army with 50 guys, now. Also, good gravy do I ever love that the enemies can rout now. I thought just winning against impossible odds was fun, but seeing them driven before me and hearing the lamentations of their women definitely is the best thing :conan

OxBlood
Jul 4th, 2011, 05:47 AM
I want a castle too! But I guess my non-noble heritage isn´t helping much...neither is me siding with whomever I want...meh, who cares, killing peasants is fun too.

Question: Is there any way of recruiting guys other than picking them up in the villages? Don´t these countries have soldiers or something? Can´t all be peasant-armies and mercenaries, right?

Fathom Zero
Jul 4th, 2011, 05:53 AM
Go into the taverns and talk to people. Occasionally, there'll be some unique person that'll join your party. Also, you can hire other sorts of mercenaries.

Chojin
Jul 4th, 2011, 06:45 AM
lol some shit just got real in omikron and this npc started making threats at me, so in the dialog options i was just like "dude i'm playing a video game, i don't care"

that's when i learned that the omikron video game is a trap from demons to steal gamers' souls. apparently.

JACK THOMPSON WAS RIGHT

OxBlood
Jul 4th, 2011, 09:25 AM
Go into the taverns and talk to people. Occasionally, there'll be some unique person that'll join your party. Also, you can hire other sorts of mercenaries.

I´ve seen the mercs but they´re expensive as shit...and given the chance that they´ll only survive one or two battles anyway...I´ll pass on them for now. At least I got some of my boys to survive long enough to promote them to knights (which is strange since I´m a commoner and commoners can´t command knights but whatever ;) )

It´s kinda hard finding a Count to cling to...I´d prefer to just TAKE land and castles but I can´t since I can only field 45 guys...Some kind of super-battlemage or maybe 10 Ogres would be really handy right now but noooo, we´re not living in a fantasy world. No Sir, you gotta go and recruit peasant-boys from the countryside and crawl in everybodies collective ass to get along in this world...at least I got me a nice Greatsword.


Huh, I just captured some Desert-noble...what should I do with him? IS there anything to do other than collect ransom?

executioneer
Jul 4th, 2011, 11:13 AM
I want a castle too! But I guess my non-noble heritage isn´t helping much...neither is me siding with whomever I want...meh, who cares, killing peasants is fun too.

Question: Is there any way of recruiting guys other than picking them up in the villages? Don´t these countries have soldiers or something? Can´t all be peasant-armies and mercenaries, right?

recruiting from villages and getting mercs from taverns is it, sry


Huh, I just captured some Desert-noble...what should I do with him? IS there anything to do other than collect ransom?

nope. all you can do is wait for someone to contact you

OxBlood
Jul 4th, 2011, 03:44 PM
Happened already. Measly 2500 Denars for a lord. Cheap bastards.

BUT: I got my first fief. Right in the middle of enemy territory. Great. Had to pause until tomorrow but somehow I doubt I´ll find it in good condition. Bah.

executioneer
Jul 4th, 2011, 04:02 PM
yeah, they usually start you with the shittiest fief :( it's income, i guess? plus if you build it up a bunch they'll start giving you better troops when you recruit (which, in original M&B at least, could be good or bad; sometimes they'd offer archers, which I DID NOT WANT)

Dr. Boogie
Jul 4th, 2011, 05:33 PM
Playing Terraria. The first 6 hours of that game were better than the entire 6 hours of DNF.

I tunneled about 1.5 kilometers underground and found a bunch of great shit. Then I went to explore the jungle and found a solid gold room with a gold treasure chest underground. I was so happy that I tore down that room and used the materials to make a solid gold cabin. I wish my bed could have been made of gold, too.


Willie, I just picked up M&B: With Fire and Sword off Steam. Is it everything from the previous installments plus more, because I still haven't had a chance to play Warband?

Fathom Zero
Jul 4th, 2011, 05:33 PM
I want dudes on horseback with swords or lances. The faster, the better. Fuck archers. All they do is miss and die.

Fathom Zero
Jul 4th, 2011, 10:41 PM
1P0yfq2wDvU

It's old, but one of my favorite moments in video games.

Chojin
Jul 5th, 2011, 02:10 AM
what is it with cyberpunk and demons

still playing omikron. the game has some really neat concepts and was developed by the same company that did indigo prophecy and heavy rain, yet actually plays like a video game unlike those two. the open world system is mad neat, but the game is just retro enough that it was made in that time period where fucking nothing is explained, and you can screw yourself out of being able to finish the game if you do certain things wrong early on (or so I've read). like i said the concepts are neat, like how if you die through pretty much any plot event, you can possess a nearby person and keep playing. after i was wanted by law, i tried to get a police robot to let me through a tunnel and he just looked at me and then turned on his flamethrower :lol then i got to possess a bald female mortician :orgasm

I keep having to go back to gamefaqs for it because everything you're ever told is a fantastical riddle that the game engine can't hope to convey without a healthy dose of imagination. it also doesn't help that nothing at all is labelled on your map, so every time i enter a new city i have to chart it out on paper to figure out where the fuck anything is. you can call a car to take you to important plot destinations, but not stores.

so it's a french 3d cyberpunk action/adventure game. it also has FPS segments and fighting game segments. i feel like i should be enjoying this more. it's probably the controls that bother me the most; it's like resident evil 1 in a GTA 3 gamespace.

LordSappington
Jul 5th, 2011, 02:21 AM
Got Killing Floor, and holy fuck this game is goddamn hard. Especially on maps where kiting is literally impossible, and God help you if you bought the wrong gun.
I love it.

executioneer
Jul 5th, 2011, 02:55 AM
Willie, I just picked up M&B: With Fire and Sword off Steam. Is it everything from the previous installments plus more, because I still haven't had a chance to play Warband?

someone told me it wasn't as good as warband, i haven't tried it

supposedly there's guns in it? dunno

Fathom Zero
Jul 5th, 2011, 03:09 AM
It's set in real Europe and there are gunz. So it's cool. I also picked it up. :)

OxBlood
Jul 5th, 2011, 03:53 AM
I played Fire & Sword for about half an hour and it felt very inferior to Warband imo. The guns are a nice addition but they take forever to load and they are basically a onehit on both the enemy AND you. One stray bullet and you´re done for. I also don´t like the fact that it´s not a fictional country but errr...Poland, right?

Fathom Zero
Jul 5th, 2011, 06:39 AM
Poland, Crimea, Turkey, etc. Eastern Europe, I think. And there were some French people from what I saw. I haven't gotten past the tutorial because the horses that my mates were supposed to get on ran away as soon as I got on mine. :lol

OxBlood
Jul 5th, 2011, 09:09 AM
Hm, I´ll try it again. In Warband, my first fief was about as peaceful as I expected. As in "under constant attack". Those peasants can´t build as fast as those Yellow Dudes burn down their houses. And of course I can´t do anything about it cause they have 100 guys and I got...about 15 right now :D

One thing I don´t like is that Fire and Sword doesn´t have character-origins anymore. I just love these ultima-esque questionaires to determine your skills plus it adds color to your character. For instance, my Warband-character is the son of a poacher, so I know he´s a commoner of very low standing which is quite important to know when dealing with all those nobles.

In Fire and Sword, I´m just some random dude with a nice beard and that´s it. A shame.

Zomboid
Jul 5th, 2011, 08:57 PM
I've started playing MK again while I wait to play Duke Nukem. I also have MvsC3, and I tried it, but honestly, I went back to MK pretty quickly; I'd imagine it'd be fun with other people, but I'm not liking it all that much.

executioneer
Jul 5th, 2011, 09:14 PM
Fire and Sword doesn´t have character-origins anymore
well fuck that, I loved that part >:

LordSappington
Jul 6th, 2011, 12:19 AM
Holy shit, this Steam Summer sale is killing my wallet. I keep seeing game packs for 85% off and buying them. :(
Also, anyone want to play some Killing Floor?

Dr. Boogie
Jul 6th, 2011, 11:18 PM
Sure, I'm down.


Steamtag is fiendian

creeposaurus
Jul 9th, 2011, 12:06 PM
Biker Mice from Mars for the DS

darkvare
Jul 9th, 2011, 07:33 PM
i've been playing world of warcraft now that it's free also been playing arkham asylum on 3d since i got the goty edition which works better than i thought

WhiteRat
Jul 9th, 2011, 08:55 PM
Just started playing Knights of the Old Republic for PC for the first time. Why did I wait 8 years to play this?

Dimnos
Jul 9th, 2011, 10:55 PM
On the PC that game had a lot of bad ass mods too.

mew barios
Jul 9th, 2011, 11:33 PM
i played ghost trick: phantom detective over the past week. i'm surprised how good it looks for a ds game.

Fathom Zero
Jul 10th, 2011, 01:05 AM
On the PC that game had a lot of bad ass mods too.

It did on the Xbox, as well.

LordSappington
Jul 10th, 2011, 03:07 AM
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff44/roflcopter12211/1309927476471.jpg
This fucking happened to me just now on the Patriarch with my friends. Fuuuuuuu

King Hadas
Jul 11th, 2011, 10:31 AM
Exciting news for Darkvare; Mother 3 has been translated into Spanish.

http://mother3spanish.blogspot.com/

darkvare
Jul 11th, 2011, 11:45 AM
but is spanish from spain :( and also i don't like turn based games

Dimnos
Jul 11th, 2011, 03:01 PM
You dont know the kings spanish?! WTF son?

darkvare
Jul 11th, 2011, 03:22 PM
it's that they have some words we don't use and different words witht the same meaning i can do a video of how different both are

10,000 Volt Ghost
Jul 11th, 2011, 03:54 PM
I would watch it. If its in english I would understand it too.

darkvare
Jul 12th, 2011, 01:42 AM
i bought an undead horse in wow i feel accomplished i'm gonna buy some time cards

Nick
Jul 12th, 2011, 06:02 AM
i've been playing world of warcraft now that it's free also been playing arkham asylum on 3d since i got the goty edition which works better than i thought


Since when is WoW free?

Fathom Zero
Jul 12th, 2011, 06:06 AM
Up to level 20 or some shit, they made it free to play.

OxBlood
Jul 12th, 2011, 07:09 AM
How long does it take to get to 20 in WOW these days? An hour? Two? :lol

mew barios
Jul 12th, 2011, 04:41 PM
i'm 1000 lightyears behind every other human in ps2 modding, but i did finally set it up to play games streamed into it thru the network adapter so i could put it inside my arcade cabinet and never touch another primitive optical disk again. i've been playing odin sphere on it and i'm not sure how i feel about it yet but it looks really pretty.

Fathom Zero
Jul 12th, 2011, 09:22 PM
you can do that? :O

mew barios
Jul 12th, 2011, 10:01 PM
i'm gonna be doing several console mods over the next week or so, i'll make a thread about it :o

dextire
Jul 14th, 2011, 12:31 AM
Borrowed Super Mario Galaxy 2 from a friend and holy crap is there a lot to do!
I've already beat final Bowser twice and collected all 120 stars, and it looks like I'm just getting started.

It's a lot of fun though, and I like that you can play as Luigi this time.

Mad Melvin
Jul 14th, 2011, 02:16 AM
Brütal Legend

I don't really like this game all that much, but i'll try to get it over with.

Chojin
Jul 14th, 2011, 12:23 PM
finally finished omikron. the game seems to forget that it's cyberpunk about a third of the way through and you end up traipsing through marketplaces and french villas or something

also the game became less of an adventure game and more of a queer puzzler as time went on, and it slowly became less possible to "live" in the environments (the last city doesn't even have cars, doesn't have a supermarket, and you get kicked out of the Awakened base after you get your mission; ne'er to return again). The whole thing starts out well after you get a handle on the controls and it feels like you're in a living city, then it just gets obnoxious when you get to the other cities.

i also kept getting pissed off because i'd possess a person i really wanted to keep and then plot elements would force me to possess someone else. you can't return to an old body and you lose all your fight training and other stats when you do that, too. i ended the game as some faggotry shrek-wannabe after my movie star chick had to kill herself by drinking poison just to get that faggot to move a rock for me.

i think the game forces you to remain emotionally unattached to the people you control, but at the same time gives you lots of information about them and makes you spend time improving them, which makes their loss tougher on you. i don't know if it's intentional, but it felt like the game was making me GROW AS A PERSON by leaving these characters behind. also it's a bizarre moral choice, considering you kill the people you possess (most of whom are civilians), and it's ambiguous as to what happens to their soul when you take over. their bodies turn into transparent soulless husks when you transfer to another, so it's not like they get it back.

the game itself is supposed to be a plot from demons to enslave souls from our world by putting them into video game characters in the game world, but the game world itself is supposed to be a real world in another dimension that persists when you turn the system off. this further raises moral questions because according to the game, you are fucking with and killing real people just so you can get your soul back out of the video game/other world.

the concepts are a lot better than the delivery.

OxBlood
Jul 14th, 2011, 05:10 PM
Still playing Ys Seven. That´s how you do it, just plain Action-Adventure Awesomeness.

darkvare
Jul 14th, 2011, 08:29 PM
i'm playing alice madnnes returns and i was wondering does this game has anything to do with psychonauts?

WhiteRat
Jul 14th, 2011, 08:37 PM
Still playing KotOR on PC. Was in the Sith Temple, broke into Master Uthar's room and found the datapad to give to the one guy's angsty sith son. Upon reaching said son with the evidence to sway him to our side, he goes ape shit and attacks me with his lightsabre completely unprovoked. His dad, who if you remember, is desperately trying to reconcile with him, starts shooting his own son like no tomorrow. After we killed his son I tried talking to the dad and all he says is some shit about trying to find evidence to show his son and acts like nothing has happened.

I take it that this was a glitch?

Fathom Zero
Jul 14th, 2011, 09:23 PM
i'm playing alice madnnes returns and i was wondering does this game has anything to do with psychonauts?

http://www.destructoid.com/poor-raz-alice-madness-returns-references-psychonauts-203741.phtml

Other than that, no similarities, other than the fact that American McGee and Tim Schafer are the same person.

They both make weird games that don't sell at all.

darkvare
Jul 14th, 2011, 11:58 PM
that's the reason i was wondering lol

Phoenix Gamma
Jul 15th, 2011, 12:18 AM
To be fair, Madness Returns is pretty crummy. I'm on chapter 3 and I've already seen everything the gameplay has to offer. If it weren't for the story or art, I'd have uninstalled it. Speaking of which, I got a signed copy of the artbook and a signed lithograph in the mail the other day. Pretty as fuck.

darkvare
Jul 15th, 2011, 12:56 AM
well i just finished it the platforming went from bad to infuriating and this is mostly due to the removal of her ability to grab onto ledges

Phoenix Gamma
Jul 15th, 2011, 08:01 PM
Fuck the collision. There are so many moments where Alice will hit the ledge then vibrated against it and fell.

k0k0
Jul 15th, 2011, 11:25 PM
Right now I'm playing 'Ms. Splosion Man' and it is awesome. If you liked the first one, this is better and everything seems bigger. The puzzles can get a bit harder than Splosion Man, but it's pretty rewarding solving some of them. I can't wait to finish the single player and then go do some co-op online with random assholes who don't know how to play.

King Hadas
Jul 16th, 2011, 01:37 AM
I bought 5 games at gamestop for $31, I'm not sure if I came out ahead yet. If I can buy a game for less then it'd cost to rent it and it's a good one then usually I consider it a deal but I've only played two so far and two of the others won't load easily on my ps2 since they're blue discs.

Bioshock 2 (the premise has become a little strained but still pretty engaging)
Fable 2 (this game is a fucking mess, not sure how I feel about it yet)
RAD (blue disc)
Okage: Shadow King (blue disc)
Blood Will Tell

I almost bought a game called City Crisis as well because I thought it might be a sequel to Incredible Crisis but it turns out it was just some sort of helicopter game.

Dr. Boogie
Jul 16th, 2011, 01:48 AM
Blood Will Tell is awesome. Don't let the crappy voice acting dissuade you.

Same with RAD, with even more of a warning about the crappy voice work.

Fathom Zero
Jul 16th, 2011, 02:16 AM
RAD is a wonderful game. I just KNOW that the people that made that went on to make Earth Defense Force. They just had to.

Everything about the games is the same. And Okage sounds so familiar. :\

After looking it up, yeah I've seen it so many times in PS2 bargain bins. It was a launch title, if memory serves.

Zomboid
Jul 16th, 2011, 03:11 AM
Yeah, Gamestop has that crazy sale going on now. I was tempted to get Tekken 6, but I already have a lot of fighting games and when certain friends are over we get day drunk and try playing them all but usually end up back on Mortal Kombat.

I started a new game of New Vegas, specifically to play the expansions. Man, Dead Money fucking sucked. I typically try to explore as much as possible and get a real sense of what's going on, but I just wanted that shit to end as quickly as possible. I have yet to try the second one, but it can't be any worse. Other than that, I've been wandering around discovering how much ass you can kick with a high unarmed skill. I knocked a deathclaw's head off with like two punches from my spiked fists.

Fathom Zero
Jul 16th, 2011, 03:32 AM
Honest Hearts is soooo fucking boring. The one that comes out next week looks great, though.

Phoenix Gamma
Jul 16th, 2011, 08:17 AM
My parents are using Wii Fit to weigh our luggage before our trip. BOY THAT WAS A GREAT MOTHER'S DAY GIFT I'M GLAD I BOUGHT THAT FOR YOU.

Also played a little of the Uncharted 3 beta at a friend's house. Shit's pretty cool. I can see myself playing that for awhile, climbing on shit and shooting dudes. I just want the fucking campaign though.

Zomboid
Jul 16th, 2011, 06:31 PM
Honest Hearts is soooo fucking boring. The one that comes out next week looks great, though.
I doubt that it's worse than Dead Money. Out of the expansions for Fallout 3, I think I liked Point Lookout the most, but the Pit was also pretty fun. Anchorage and Mothership Zeta were mediocre, and I liked Broken Steel enough that I didn't feel ripped off for getting it.

Fuck, really, anything that allowed you to make up for that horrible oversight at the climax of the vanilla game was going to be a step up. I have a super mutant, a ghoul, or a robot, but none of them will press that switch. It has to be someone who can die from it. Ok, Fallout.

darkvare
Jul 16th, 2011, 07:17 PM
i went the free to play way :\ and got champions online so if you wanna play or mock me or whatever just let me know

Chojin
Jul 16th, 2011, 07:31 PM
Fuck, really, anything that allowed you to make up for that horrible oversight at the climax of the vanilla game was going to be a step up. I have a super mutant, a ghoul, or a robot, but none of them will press that switch. It has to be someone who can die from it. Ok, Fallout.

yeah that was tres retarded

i went in there wearing a radiation suit and after having chowed down on like 10 bottles of rad-x. or radaway, whatever the preventative one is.

'hey this isn't bad at all okay i'll put in the code and OH GOD WHAT'

Chojin
Jul 16th, 2011, 08:20 PM
zeno clash is on sale on steam this weekend. i will probably get it since it looks interesting to me.

this is mostly a post to remind me to buy it tomorrow.

nvrmind i just bought it now

the next games in my list are:
-the longest journey
-dreamfall: the longest journey
-mass effect 2 (FINISH THE JOB, JAMES)
-zeno clash

with a bit of monday night combat in there somewhere; multiplayer games tend to exist on a different continuum for me

Fathom Zero
Jul 17th, 2011, 03:17 AM
You're not going to like Zeno Clash.

Chojin
Jul 17th, 2011, 06:53 AM
what makes you say that

i watched a bit of a "let's play" a few months ago and it looked interesting

i play shitty games all the goddamn time just to get ideas for my own projects and to grow as an individual

Fathom Zero
Jul 17th, 2011, 06:54 AM
It's a cool melee FPS. But it makes bad decisions sometimes, I think. Part of me says it tries too hard to be weird.

Dr. Boogie
Jul 17th, 2011, 12:02 PM
I liked Zeno Clash. It didn't seem like it was that weird. It was downright Dr. Seuss-ian at times, but with more violence.

Fathom Zero
Jul 17th, 2011, 12:56 PM
I remember it feeling very much like a mod on the PC. But then I didn't get that vibe on the 360 version, so I dunno.

I'm excited for the studio's next game, Rock of Ages.

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Their style's pretty wicked.

creeposaurus
Jul 17th, 2011, 02:44 PM
Sailor Moon RPG

Guitar Woman
Jul 17th, 2011, 08:25 PM
Don't get Monday Night Combat.

LordSappington
Jul 18th, 2011, 03:25 AM
Addicted to TF2 trading and Minecraft.
Again.
Dunno what the hell is up with them; it's like once I start playing again, I'm suddenly fixated on building awesome houses in cliffs, and making trades.

k0k0
Jul 18th, 2011, 04:12 AM
I couldn't get into minecraft, but a similar game, Terraria, got me hooked. It's like a minecraft castlevania baby.

LordSappington
Jul 18th, 2011, 04:46 AM
I'll stick with Minecraft.

Mad Melvin
Jul 18th, 2011, 05:54 AM
Minecraft is rapidly evolving into a really great game. The thing that bugs me most about it, is the lack of a goal. It's fun to build deep mines and castles for a while, but I would like to have some sort of a point to all that. Like achievements and shit.

OxBlood
Jul 18th, 2011, 07:08 AM
I couldn't get into minecraft, but a similar game, Terraria, got me hooked. It's like a minecraft castlevania baby.

I'll stick with Minecraft.

Both games are great but they do different things. Terraria is not so much about building stuff than about adventuring, but I guess sometime around this year, Mojang will add it.

Zhukov
Jul 18th, 2011, 11:27 AM
Just finished Oot on 3ds, so now I'm playing through Twilight Princess in the hopes that the next Zelda game will be ready on the exact date I finish it.

LordSappington
Jul 18th, 2011, 05:34 PM
Yeah, Minecraft is getting anther update, which will add a TON of new shit, and pretty soon will be getting Adventure Mode, thus making it the full game. He'll probably still add stuff.
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_features

On a related note, I miss the Seecret Friday Updates. :(

Fathom Zero
Jul 18th, 2011, 05:36 PM
KUNAI STAB KUNAI STAB KUNAI STAB 69x

Mad Melvin
Jul 19th, 2011, 06:51 PM
I bought the four add-on cases for L.A. Noire. The quality seems to be equal to the main game and the characters get a bit more fleshed out. Nice.

darkvare
Jul 19th, 2011, 08:12 PM
how do you take steam screenshots?

LordSappington
Jul 19th, 2011, 09:17 PM
F12

Zhukov
Jul 19th, 2011, 09:37 PM
PrtSc

darkvare
Jul 19th, 2011, 11:26 PM
thanks i'm gonna take pictures of my slutty character in the games dance club

OxBlood
Jul 20th, 2011, 05:30 AM
I´m playing Dungeons of Dredmor, a kind of streamlined Roguelike. 4 Bucks on Steam and hell is it a fun game. 3 Difficulties optional Permadeath for those among us that want to practice a bit, you chose 7 from 30-something skills to build your little dude. Can be any combination from Armor-wearing Fleshmancers to Golem-summoning Math-wizzes to Martial-Arts-Bloodmages. Lots of loot, lots of crafting, shops, Monster Zoos, random Dungeons of course, nice and easy interface, a lot of humor...very good game and for 4 bucks it´s a steal.

Now excuse me, my nordic Berserker-Fungusmancer-Axepoet-Guy needs to kill this robotic asshole and plant Mushrooms on his rusting corpse :)

Lutefisk for the Lutefisk God!!

OxBlood
Jul 21st, 2011, 04:49 AM
Nice, my EDF Insect Armageddon finally arrived. I love that series :)

k0k0
Jul 21st, 2011, 07:22 AM
You get it on Xbox 360 or PS3? I got it and beat it with 2 classes, trooper and tactical. Tactical isn't too great, but I enjoy trooper. I'm working on beating it on Hard when I get the time. It's not as great as 2017, in my opinion, but it's still pretty addictive.

Zomboid
Jul 21st, 2011, 07:44 AM
Finished Honest Hearts in New Vegas. So much better than Dead Money, but the companions this time around were terrible--that was the one thing that Dead Money had going for it. I got incredibly annoyed with that Follows-Chalk guy repeating the same shit over and over again. I had to reload the first time I met him because I blew him away with a gauss rifle, thinking he was a bad guy; in retrospect, I shouldn't have reloaded.

I think I'll start the newest DLC tomorrow.

OxBlood
Jul 21st, 2011, 09:24 AM
You get it on Xbox 360 or PS3? I got it and beat it with 2 classes, trooper and tactical. Tactical isn't too great, but I enjoy trooper. I'm working on beating it on Hard when I get the time. It's not as great as 2017, in my opinion, but it's still pretty addictive.

360. For some odd reason, the release is on the 22nd over here. I only played the first 3 Missions mostly with the Trooper-Armor but I´m not sure which one to use for the first playthrough...probably either Battle or Jet, those are fun :)


What makes 2017 the better game in your opinion? I´ve played that one too back in the day, wonderful game. IA has less levels, right? Only something around 15 as far as I´ve heard?

k0k0
Jul 21st, 2011, 10:07 AM
There's less levels, less enemies on screen at once (they supplement this by having enemies spawn one after another to make it seem like there are), less giant enemies, and while I like the class system, the 300 weapons listed are divided up between the classes, so it's really only about 75 weapons per class. I liked being able to pick up the health packs in order to raise my health and 'level up' rather than being set with levels. Plus it doesn't seem like the new weapons come fast enough. Whenever there's a new weapon pickup, 1 out of 4 times it's for a class that you don't use. But that's not saying it isn't a really enjoyable game. It is.

OxBlood
Jul 21st, 2011, 11:55 AM
Interesting. I noticed the thing with the weapons. Got a gun and it says it´s for someone else AND even if I was playing that class, it´s Tier4 so I couldn´t use it anyway.

I was also a little irritated by the new health-system, I really liked the mini-grind you got into when trying to level up your health :)

Still, I´m happy that the series survives cause it deserves to survive :)

Guess I´m gonna play more Battle-Armor tonight.

k0k0
Jul 21st, 2011, 01:15 PM
I'd suggest the battle armor. My roommate likes it a whole lot and I usually end up dying a lot more than him as the trooper, so the added bulk works. I just wish they gave the classes special abilities, but left it to where you can all use the same pool of weapons.

creeposaurus
Jul 21st, 2011, 01:37 PM
Science Papa

I like science and I wish my dad loved me

darkvare
Jul 21st, 2011, 06:27 PM
lol i heard the rumors but sounded so dumb so i doubt it would ever happen but they became truth
aaSBkBDcepM

Fathom Zero
Jul 21st, 2011, 07:10 PM
THAT'S SICK

Zomboid
Jul 21st, 2011, 07:51 PM
Wow. It'd be absolutely perfect if it was Englund voicing him and it was the original Freddy, which it doesn't appear to be. Still awesome, though.

Dr. Boogie
Jul 21st, 2011, 07:56 PM
Been playing Dungeon Siege III. It's an interesting dungeon crawler. I think it stands on its own; they didn't need to slap the Dungeon Siege name on it just to sell it.


Also playing EDF: IA. Mostly I like it, but there are parts I don't like. Particularly the ending:

The mothership shows up, shoots at you, and you leave? And after only 15 levels? How is that an ending?

The Jet armor has been my favorite, though. Just being able to move around and up into the air is great, especially with the helicopter being absent from the game. Takes a while to level it up enough that your jetpack has a decent amount of thrust, plus I don't understand why your jetpack energy has to be tied to your weapons reloading.

My friend and I played through the campaign on normal, then remix on hard. He went Battle armor and seemed to die less often, mainly because it comes with that shockwave ability that renders you temporarily invulnerable (and kills any nearby allies).

k0k0
Jul 21st, 2011, 09:37 PM
The mothership shows up, shoots at you, and you leave? And after only 15 levels? How is that an ending?



The endings get better as you beat it on higher difficulties. What you got was the worst ending. A pain in the ass, I know, because it's going to make me end up playing it until I beat it on inferno.

Dr. Boogie
Jul 21st, 2011, 09:40 PM
But the second ending is only slightly different. Unless beating inferno unlocks some epic boss fight, I don't see how it could possibly improve on it.

k0k0
Jul 21st, 2011, 09:44 PM
Honestly, I haven't gotten to that point yet. I just thought the first ending was shit and checked online to find that information. I've been sitting in level 1-4 (ditchslap) and leveling up my dude on the part where there's 3 ant hills. Once I get to rank 7 I'll complete the game on hard. But it's a shame that not much has changed. I don't think the ending will get drastically different then.

King Hadas
Jul 24th, 2011, 07:17 PM
I was doing a post for Blood Will Tell but it was getting long so I thought I might as well hammer it out as a review for -ROG-. I tell you man, I was in the fukin' zone writing this. This review was insightful, juicy and it totally encapsulated everything you could possible say, good or bad, about Blood Will Tell. I suffered a power outage though and this was all I was able to salvage.

Blood Will Tell: It was all right I guess. Should of had dash from the beginning.

Fathom Zero
Jul 24th, 2011, 07:18 PM
Is that the one about the ninja with the body parts?

Dr. Boogie
Jul 24th, 2011, 07:27 PM
Yeah, that's the one. It's pretty great.

I was doing a post for Blood Will Tell but it was getting long so I thought I might as well hammer it out as a review for -ROG-. I tell you man, I was in the fukin' zone writing this. This review was insightful, juicy and it totally encapsulated everything you could possible say, good or bad, about Blood Will Tell. I suffered a power outage though and this was all I was able to salvage.

Blood Will Tell: It was all right I guess. Should of had dash from the beginning.

I always just pop open Word if I'm writing a post that gets too long.

Also, it's "should've", not "should of".

King Hadas
Jul 24th, 2011, 07:46 PM
:x

Yeah Blood Will Tell is pretty good but it has its share of problems. My first impression was that it sucked but I changed my mind once I got the dash ability. This game has way too much space between points A and B.

I was a little disappointed that you never regained your ruder body parts, when he'd grasp his lower back in pain I thought he might be growing his asshole back but nope. Also Dororo is a girl what kind of twist is that? I never thought she was a boy. I think a more shocking twist would have been if, upon defeating a fiend, Hyakkimaru grew a lush pair of titties.

Dr. Boogie
Jul 25th, 2011, 04:44 AM
The shocking twist is that he never recaptures his naughty bits. He just has to use that hydraulic piston his dad made for the rest of his life.

OxBlood
Jul 26th, 2011, 03:27 AM
Finished EDF IA on normal. It´s a bit sad that the game only starts to get good when it´s almost over...there´s not enough going on in the earlier missions...

k0k0
Jul 26th, 2011, 10:42 AM
Yeah, I was expecting a huge fight like the first one with crazy lasers and shit going off. It just kind of ended.

Dr. Boogie
Jul 26th, 2011, 03:53 PM
In case anyone is interested, it's looking like EDF: IA maybe going on sale at Amazon at 7pm PST today as part of their Gold Box thing:


http://www.amazon.com/gp/goldbox?ref_=pe_26410_20594760

Phoenix Gamma
Jul 26th, 2011, 04:27 PM
Rhythm Heaven Wii came out in Japanland a few days ago. It's fantastic, and there's no waggle, so it's as superb as the GBA game. Love it.

mew barios
Jul 26th, 2011, 05:47 PM
i've been playing a few games of devil's crush a day for the past few days. i can't really explain why but somehow it always makes me feel happy everytime i revisit it.

LordSappington
Jul 26th, 2011, 05:51 PM
Minecraft minecraft minecraft
We're starting a new server. I'm in charge of basically blowing a gigantic vertical shaft in the ground, and we're going to start off building inside of it, in the walls and stuff. It's gonna be fun!

Chojin
Jul 26th, 2011, 06:42 PM
that sounds like the biggest waste of time ever

LordSappington
Jul 27th, 2011, 04:31 AM
'Kay.
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enderman

Esuohlim
Jul 27th, 2011, 04:43 AM
A friend of mine went on and on about why Minecraft was awesome, and it all sounded like the most boring shit to ever try to pass as a game

"I spent a week making a giant tree out of little trees!"

k0k0
Jul 27th, 2011, 10:39 AM
Yeah, minecraft is just lost on me also. I tried playing it and it was boring. Then I played Terraria and got hooked, which is pretty much almost like minecraft. I think it's the adventuring that got me hooked.

creeposaurus
Jul 27th, 2011, 10:53 AM
Pokemans :D

darkvare
Jul 27th, 2011, 03:13 PM
i have a steam question every time i have steam running and plug headphones the sound won't come out and the pc recognizes them as another device any help?

Fathom Zero
Jul 27th, 2011, 08:19 PM
I think there are larger issues at play besides Steam. Maybe your sound drivers?

darkvare
Jul 27th, 2011, 09:00 PM
nothing wrong with them cause when i plug my headphones on with steam not working sound works perfectly

Fathom Zero
Jul 27th, 2011, 09:26 PM
Yeah, it can still be a problem with your sound drivers. But reinstall Steam just in case, I'll say.

darkvare
Jul 28th, 2011, 12:33 PM
look at my ram mount thingy and my pet little shippy :D
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594692365044357093/A7CED8DBD212559B70C353AF78C314F045C2915D/

creeposaurus
Jul 28th, 2011, 09:17 PM
SUCH CUTE THINGYS!

Do you have regular headphones?

darkvare
Jul 28th, 2011, 10:52 PM
yes they are just regular ass headphones finally bought a steam game so i can add friends now so tell me who you are to add you please :D

Nick
Aug 1st, 2011, 09:12 AM
I picked up a couple of games that I'm probably going to stream sooner or later. X-Men: Legends, X-Men: Legends II, Warhammer 40,000: Fire Warrior, GunGrave, GunGrave: Overdose, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2.

k0k0
Aug 1st, 2011, 11:26 AM
I pre-ordered Star Wars: The Old Republic. Looks like I may be busy for a few months after November. Usually when I get into an MMORPG I get addicted for a while, get to max level, get bored and then stop.

Nick
Aug 1st, 2011, 11:48 AM
Why would you do this?

k0k0
Aug 1st, 2011, 12:00 PM
Something to pass the time until I die?

Dimnos
Aug 1st, 2011, 12:23 PM
have you looked at classes?

k0k0
Aug 1st, 2011, 12:36 PM
have you looked at classes?

Yep, I'm probably going to be a trooper since it's closest to what I was in Starwars Galaxies before sony f-ed it in the A. I was Danny Glover the wookie, mayor of Smiley Town and master rifleman/creature handler. I know SW:TOR won't have that huge of a flexibility when it comes to classes or even housing, but I'm hoping it's at least super fun. SWG pre nge was really one of the only MMORPGS that I played after I hit max level.

Dr. Boogie
Aug 1st, 2011, 06:27 PM
A friend of mine has been playing the leaked DE:HR preview build, and I've been looking over his shoulder.;)


It's pretty fantastic, I've gotta admit. I was worried it might be dumbed down for consoles like Invisible War, but thankfully that is not the case. Some elements have been left out, but the game feels smoother for it.

Stealth, for instance, is way better, if for no other reason than because they introduced stealth kills in a way beyond sneaking up and goosing the enemy with a cattle prod. Instead, when you get close to someone, you hit a button, and you and your prey are transported to a pocket dimension where you can subdue him without him making a sound, no matter how much time he would have to cry out while you punch/stab/arm bar him, all while time is frozen in the outside world. They give you the option to do either lethal or non-lethal takedowns, a la Splinter Cell, with lethal ones being permanent while nonlethal ones net you more xp. Also included is a little radar that can be upgraded, but is pretty good on its own, showing positions of enemies you can either see or hear and displaying the alert status of nearby enemies.


They also replaced hacking with an actual minigame where you have to take over nodes on a grid not unlike the one from Shadowrun (the Genesis game, not the modern one). You work your way along the paths between nodes, capturing nodes as you go. Each time you capture one, there’s a chance you’ll active a trace, at which point you’ll only have a few seconds to make it to the final node before you’re kicked out and an alarm/countermeasure is triggered (if there’s one around). While you’re looking around each grid, you’ll have the opportunity to capture data stores for more money, more xp, and special viruses for covert hacking or freezing the trace process for a few seconds. It took a little getting used to, but it’s fun and rewarding once you get the hang of it.

Combat is mostly the same, although they’ve added an entirely optional cover system, along with an abundance of chest high walls to crouch behind. Accuracy is determined solely based on the weapon, with the odd upgrade part to improve accuracy showing up from time to time. There are some augmentations you can get to improve your accuracy by moving, but I can’t see why you would spend the upgrade points on that when enemies are typically accurate enough to nail your ass if you spend time away from cover.

That’s really one of the few criticisms I have of it: your skill/augmentation tree still a handful of semi-useless skills. One of the branches labeled “stealth augmentation” just unlocks HUD elements that show you cones of vision and noise levels, but these seemed easy enough to circumvent by crouch-walking everywhere and using the cover system to peek around corners. Granted, it’s not required that you purchase those or augmentations of similar value like the ones that let you sprint for a little longer, but it seemed like by the end of the preview, nearly every augmentation you’d want for the rest of the game had been purchased. The preview build was pretty long, but still...

The other thing that kind of bugged me was the power meter. Instead of a long bar, you’ve got a series of batteries that drain based on the power you’re using. Partially filled ones will regenerate automatically, and if you use them all, a single one will always refill itself. To refill empty batteries, you have to special candy bars and jars of Robocop-esque baby food. For the most part, it’s not a big deal. The cloaking power, for example, starts off granting you 3 seconds of invisibility per battery, but stealth kills take an entire battery to execute, thus you can’t execute too many stealth kills in a row. That seems like kind of a design flaw, giving a guy mechanical arms that run out of juice every time he punches someone in the face.

Beyond that, my only other complaints were minor ones about some stiff animations during conversations and a few button prompts that didn’t light up properly for the mouse cursor, but even if those weren’t resolved in the final product, I’d still get the game. Above all else, they’ve fully realized the multiple routes to solving situations that’s so iconic to the series.

All I know is when this finally comes out, I’m going full hacker.

OxBlood
Aug 2nd, 2011, 01:08 AM
Hey, thanks a lot for that little preview, sounds pretty good to me :)

MarioRPG
Aug 2nd, 2011, 11:56 AM
Yeah that sounds pretty slick, hacking was always how I played through that game.

Nick
Aug 2nd, 2011, 01:01 PM
Boogie, I currently have Deus Ex ordered for the 360. Do you think I would be better off getting the pc version instead?

OxBlood
Aug 2nd, 2011, 01:12 PM
I want to keep armed conflicts to a minimum without sneaking, so I guess, I´ll go hacker with light weapons or something like that. That´s how I played DE1 anyway, the Pistol was my best friend :)

Dr. Boogie
Aug 2nd, 2011, 02:16 PM
Boogie, I currently have Deus Ex ordered for the 360. Do you think I would be better off getting the pc version instead?

Well I would, but that's mainly because I much prefer mouseaim over gamepads for shooters, but apart from that and some better graphics on the PC, I don't think you'd necessarily be better off getting it for PC.

I want to keep armed conflicts to a minimum without sneaking, so I guess, I´ll go hacker with light weapons or something like that. That´s how I played DE1 anyway, the Pistol was my best friend :)

So far, I've managed to get through the entire demo without investing in any of the real stealth augments, while still scoring the big xp bonuses for not being seen. Apart from the cloak, they have a couple that allow you to run and jump silently, but those take power, and so you can't silently run up behind someone and knock them out unless you have at least 2 full batteries.

I say you're better off just timing the guard's patterns and just crouch-walking up to them when they turn around, like in pretty much every other stealth game out there.

k0k0
Aug 2nd, 2011, 04:40 PM
I will probably be getting DE:HR for the 360 since my computer is slowly winding down on games it is able to effectively play and still look good.

10,000 Volt Ghost
Aug 2nd, 2011, 05:17 PM
I'm trying to get chrono cross to work on this lame ps emulator. Had no luck with it so far.

Phoenix Gamma
Aug 2nd, 2011, 06:17 PM
Play Catherine last night after avoiding buying it for awhile.

It doesn't deserve the hype it's getting. The block pushing is straight out of a 90's PS1 game. The morality choices really don't change the narrative at all (if you lean more towards one girl or the other, Vincent is still a wishy washy pussy who can't make up his mind), and there's not a whole lot to do outside of pushing blocks.

The in-game graphics and cutscenes are pretty, and the music is cool, but that's about it. Get it for $30 if you really want to play it.

Fathom Zero
Aug 2nd, 2011, 06:41 PM
I loved it. Play it. Buy it.

Zomboid
Aug 2nd, 2011, 07:02 PM
I trust your opinion more! But still no.

Phoenix Gamma
Aug 2nd, 2011, 07:12 PM
I loved it. Play it. Buy it.

I figured you would hate Catherine.

I stayed away because it seemed to fanservicey, but it got decent reviews.

I think it's because I hate all three of the main characters. Vincent is the fucking lamest protagonist I've ever been stuck with, Catherine is exactly like this chick in college who I used to sleep with, and Katherine won't butt the fuck out.

I WANT TO EAT PIZZA AND DRINK BEER WITH MY FRIENDS AFTER WORK. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. IT'S PERFECTLY NORMAL. FUCK STOP TEXTING ME. >:

Fathom Zero
Aug 2nd, 2011, 07:21 PM
I love disgustingly hard games sometimes, the last being Demon's Souls. The animation's nice, the characters are paper-thin weirdos, and it's got a different take on relationships than most games do. Vincent is whiny, but he's not you in the end. I played it like that. I thought both of the broads were exceptionally needy and really didn't like either, but aside from that, the story didn't disappoint me.

The best part is finding out what other people said in the rocket confessional.

And I still don't think it's wrong to live with someone without marrying them, unlike the other 3/4's of people playing the game. That was a stupid question.

k0k0
Aug 2nd, 2011, 07:29 PM
I didn't get to play Demon's Souls but wanted to. I don't have the cash for a ps3 though, and most games that are PS3 only don't spark my interest as much as the 360 only games. That said, I would like to get one to play this and Twisted Metal.

As for living without marriage, I'm fine with that. It's like a testing phase to see how it would be like when you do get married. Most of the time women are totally different when you're around them 24/7 and without the testing phase you'd be thrown into that shit and it would end in divorce.

Phoenix Gamma
Aug 2nd, 2011, 09:30 PM
I don't think it's disgustingly hard. I'm maybe halfway through on normal and haven't seen what the hubub is about. I'm not that-

WAIT. LIVING WITH SOMEONE YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO?!
YOU NEW-AGED HIPPIE BASTARD. WHY I AUGHTA-

I would have enjoyed Demon's Souls more if the core combat mechanics were a little more fleshed out. Which is basically where I am with Catherine; difficulty doesn't really bother me or anything, but the core design is bare. If Vincent became an asshole if I was leaning towards Catherine (why?), that might be kinda cool, or if I went the other way and he, you know, STOPPED going to that one bar that causes all of these problems and had to hide from a stalking Catherine outside his window or something, that would be cool.

It would have been a really cool game, but it just falls short on it's potential. I think Atlus just wants to make a fucking anime, but then adds gameplay later (see: TWO HOUR INTRODUCTION TO PERSONA 4. WHY.)

Fathom Zero
Aug 2nd, 2011, 09:41 PM
Persona 4 anime coming out, so I suppose they're gonna fulfill that dream or some shit.

I like dis game a lot for reasons I can't explain with mere facts. But you're right. I probably wouldn't pay the full price they want for it. Definitely not.

OxBlood
Aug 3rd, 2011, 01:49 AM
I love Atlus´ games but I´ll pass on Catherine, I just don´t think I´d like it.

I DO however like Sengoku Basara: Samurai Heroes that I picked up for cheap yesterday. Who needs Dynasty Warriors when you can have THIS. A lot of stupid button-destroying fun. Six Swords with 3 blades each at the same time? Yes please.

Dimnos
Aug 3rd, 2011, 02:48 AM
I thought both of the broads were exceptionally needy and really didn't like either...

:hourglass

Sam
Aug 3rd, 2011, 02:50 AM
JUST LIKE A WOMAN

10,000 Volt Ghost
Aug 3rd, 2011, 03:08 AM
Finally got Chrono Cross working on an emulator. Only took 6 hour to figure out to do it. >:

LordSappington
Aug 3rd, 2011, 12:30 PM
Been playing way too much Killing Floor. Finally got to level 5 sharpshooter, so I get to spawn with a lever-action!

Nick
Aug 3rd, 2011, 12:52 PM
I played GunGrave last night and it's really really short.

Fathom Zero
Aug 3rd, 2011, 01:11 PM
You're in for a treat with the second one, then, because I beat it in three hours.

Nick
Aug 3rd, 2011, 01:18 PM
I'm so glad I didn't pay full price for them, then.

Fathom Zero
Aug 3rd, 2011, 01:20 PM
Well, considering that Gungrave: Overdose was released at $15 in 2005, I certainly hope you didn't pay anything more for it.

Nick
Aug 3rd, 2011, 01:26 PM
Huh, I never knew that GunGrave was a budget title.

Fathom Zero
Aug 3rd, 2011, 01:30 PM
It's one of my favorite PS2 games, so I didn't care much. I love seeing a score in a video game.

Nick
Aug 3rd, 2011, 02:30 PM
I really loved the anime back when Tech TV showed it at midnights during the week, but never actually found a copy of the game in stores. I don't regret buying it, though. GunGrave is awesome.

Fathom Zero
Aug 3rd, 2011, 02:45 PM
The concept of an undead dude carrying around a coffin filled with guns will always appeal to me.

Made me like jazz, too.

Nick
Aug 3rd, 2011, 02:46 PM
I don't what it is about it. Just a big mixture of gangland drama, cowboys, zombies, and mutants, I suppose. There isn't anything that isn't not awesome about it.

Fathom Zero
Aug 3rd, 2011, 02:48 PM
The constant blood transfusions were cool, too.

Nick
Aug 3rd, 2011, 02:51 PM
I liked it. Grave was super powerful and a badass, but he also had such huge set backs. It really made you feel sorry for him. :(

Fathom Zero
Aug 3rd, 2011, 02:57 PM
The two additional characters in Overdose are great, too. I love their stories.

Nick
Aug 3rd, 2011, 03:03 PM
Oh, they have their own stoylines? I kinda thought they were just going to be tacked on extra characters. Rockabilly Redcadillac is a kick ass name either way, though.

Sam
Aug 3rd, 2011, 03:16 PM
The concept of an undead dude carrying around a coffin filled with guns will always appeal to me.

Made me like jazz, too.

I didn't think that said jazz at first. :(

Fathom Zero
Aug 3rd, 2011, 04:11 PM
It doesn't say jazz. What are you talking about?

OxBlood
Aug 3rd, 2011, 05:55 PM
Finished 2 Stories in Samurai Heroes. Pretty hillarious how Mitsunari is just fucking boiling with hatred which is by the way the only emotion he knows. All he does is scream and swear and kill hundreds of these poor defenseless fodder-troops while he massacres his way from A to B :D

Started another round with that strange floaty-Ninjamage-dude that beats people to a pulp with his magic...er...bead-thingies. Fun.

I love all the unlockable stuff, the allies, the upgrades, I think this is one of those games that offer a lot for your money :)
Doesn´t seem to have online MP though which is a shame.

I also thought about getting Insanely twisted shadow planet but 1200 points is a little much as I don´t even know how long the game is...

k0k0
Aug 3rd, 2011, 06:11 PM
Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet is supposedly only about four hours long, but they're a really fun 4 hours. (according to an IGN review) I'll probably buy it soon since 15 bucks is about the cost to see a movie these days and most movies don't last 4 hours and not many are very good.

Dimnos
Aug 3rd, 2011, 07:37 PM
Finished 2 Stories in Samurai Heroes...

The first one? :confused:

Related note... Did someone here say they played Dynasty Warriors 7 and that it was actually good? Or am I making shit up?

Sam
Aug 3rd, 2011, 09:49 PM
I think 10k Volts played it.

darkvare
Aug 3rd, 2011, 09:49 PM
The first one? :confused:

Related note... Did someone here say they played Dynasty Warriors 7 and that it was actually good? Or am I making shit up?
he said sengoku basara or something was better than dinasty warriors

OxBlood
Aug 4th, 2011, 01:12 AM
I havent played DW7 but I can vouch for Samurai Heroes' awesomeness ;)

...but I don't know if this is the first or second one, it's a PS3 game but I think it's out on the Wii too.

Nick
Aug 4th, 2011, 07:35 AM
That Fist of the North Star game they put out last year was awful.

darkvare
Aug 4th, 2011, 12:27 PM
samurai heroes is from capcom not koei also koei is releasing a game based on saint seiya
and yes its kinda like dynasty warriors

Nick
Aug 4th, 2011, 01:04 PM
I just started to stream the steam version of Psychonauts. It's such a fantastic game.

Dr. Boogie
Aug 4th, 2011, 01:07 PM
That Fist of the North Star game they put out last year was awful.

Awful entertaining.


And Samurai Heroes was at least called the third game in the series, but I think there were more than two that came before it.

Nick
Aug 4th, 2011, 01:23 PM
You liked it? I liked the story mode, but the Kenshiro game play was so slow compared to what I thought it was going to be. I did think Jagi was really great in the other modes.

darkvare
Aug 4th, 2011, 01:59 PM
where do you stream your games nick?

Nick
Aug 4th, 2011, 02:07 PM
I'm a streamer at Vidya2. (http://www.vidyavidya.de/)

Dr. Boogie
Aug 4th, 2011, 02:24 PM
You liked it? I liked the story mode, but the Kenshiro game play was so slow compared to what I thought it was going to be. I did think Jagi was really great in the other modes.

He wasn't as fast as I thought he'd be, but he gets faster as you level up, and I thought it lent more weight to his hits and made you think about things a little more strategically (as much as you can in a DW game, that is). Jagi was the best, though.

Nick
Aug 4th, 2011, 03:14 PM
I never made it too far into story mode as Kenshiro, I should probably give it another chance. I was trying to run it through hard mode from the very get go.

Wouldn't minde seeing a more story driven Fist of the North Star game, freaking love that series.

k0k0
Aug 4th, 2011, 08:51 PM
The only game with Heroes in the title I want to play is the new Guardian Heroes HD Remake on xbox live. The HD sprites don't look too hot, but the ability to use the old school mode is what saves it. Can't wait to beat it on all endings and get all characters for the versus mode unlocked again.

Nick
Aug 4th, 2011, 08:56 PM
Have any of you played those Dynasty Warrior Gundam titles they put out? I was thinking of picking one up, but I'm not so sure it'd be worth it.

Dr. Boogie
Aug 4th, 2011, 10:53 PM
I've played both of the ones that are out so far.

I would get the second one simply because they follow the DW line of adding things to each successive title. More gundams, new enemies, etc.

I don't know, what are you looking for in those games for it to be worth it?

10,000 Volt Ghost
Aug 5th, 2011, 12:08 AM
Awful entertaining.


And Samurai Heroes was at least called the third game in the series, but I think there were more than two that came before it.

Can't wait for Samurai Heroes. I'm still upset Samurai Warriors 3 only came out for the Wii.

edit: Dammit, its already out and only on wii/ps3

>: >: >:

Dr. Boogie
Aug 5th, 2011, 12:31 AM
Yeah man, what did you think we were talking about?

Dimnos
Aug 5th, 2011, 02:17 AM
Wait. I was thinking of Samurai Warriors. WTF is Samurai Heroes?

Dr. Boogie
Aug 5th, 2011, 04:12 AM
http://dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/sengoku-basara-samurai-heroes-box-art.jpg

OxBlood
Aug 5th, 2011, 04:31 AM
Yep, that´s the one. Started Saica´s Campaign a while ago. She plays really well, great against mobs but not that great against bosses. Then again, I´m only level 39 with her so I don´t even have the second superattack...her first one sucks quite a bit (some Rocket Launcher that takes forever to ready and fire).


And again, the US-Cover is different from ours...
http://playstation3.gaming-universe.de/screens/boxart_eur_sengoku-basara-samurai-heroes.jpg

k0k0
Aug 5th, 2011, 05:54 AM
This thread got me playing Way of the Samurai 3 again. I really hope they bring 4 to the xbox in the US.

10,000 Volt Ghost
Aug 5th, 2011, 11:58 AM
Yeah man, what did you think we were talking about?


I skimmed, got real excited and looked it up. Then saw it was for wiips3 and was disappointed again.

Nick
Aug 5th, 2011, 12:14 PM
This thread got me playing Way of the Samurai 3 again. I really hope they bring 4 to the xbox in the US.
That game was really enjoyable. I thought it was going to be a bit more next-gen when I preordered it, but I was fine with the classic gameplay after I got used to it.

darkvare
Aug 5th, 2011, 01:24 PM
twisted metal got delayed :(

Dr. Boogie
Aug 5th, 2011, 01:25 PM
Don't worry, we'll be sure to cover it in next year's E3 coverage.

:(

Fathom Zero
Aug 5th, 2011, 04:15 PM
John Carmack's keynote was enlightening.

Nick
Aug 5th, 2011, 05:19 PM
Here's what Jaffe (http://kotaku.com/5828094/twisted-metal-delayed-to-early-2012)had to say about Twisted Metal being delayed. I'm kinda relieved that I have one less game to buy this fall but also disappointed because I was totally going to stream a marathon of Twisted Metal games up until its release. :(

MarioRPG
Aug 5th, 2011, 06:47 PM
I've been playing the crap out of Peggle Nights. My addiction to it is starting to wear off though, but it's still wasting too much of my life.

Fathom Zero
Aug 5th, 2011, 08:13 PM
People got mad at me in TF2 so I stopped playing. :(

darkvare
Aug 5th, 2011, 09:35 PM
People got mad at me in TF2 so I stopped playing. :(
you can't take anything >:

Fathom Zero
Aug 5th, 2011, 09:49 PM
I had to stop because the admin said he'd kick me off of the server if I didn't stop spanking their ass. I decided not to put up with their bullshit.

Nick
Aug 5th, 2011, 11:41 PM
What were you doing that got them so anally ravaged?

Fathom Zero
Aug 6th, 2011, 12:48 AM
Apparently being within 50 yards of ONE of the opposite team's spawn gates is grounds for a bouncing. Fuck 'em, I don't have to play with those try-hard dickbags.

Chojin
Aug 6th, 2011, 01:20 AM
tf2 has more than 1 server

fyi

Fathom Zero
Aug 6th, 2011, 01:38 AM
I know, but they just pissed in my oatmeal. I went back in a bit later, spanked them even harder, then blacklisted it so I'd never see it again. Then I went to play on a server that makes everyone wear partyhats and has Minecraft levels. :D

Also, I'm less than broke thanks to this Quakecon sale.

Nick
Aug 6th, 2011, 04:41 AM
You should play on the Refugee Clan server with me sometime. They're pretty chill bros.

Shyandquietguy
Aug 10th, 2011, 02:18 AM
Playin Diablo 2!

MODIFIED!

OxBlood
Aug 10th, 2011, 09:10 AM
I still love playing Samurai Heroes, as tedious as some Characters like Yoshitsugu may be and I can´t fucking wait for Deus Ex 3.

Another thing...is it really true that Xenoblade doesn´t get a US-Release? Makes no sense to me, that´s why I´m asking.

k0k0
Aug 10th, 2011, 05:07 PM
It doesn't get a US release, but fuck nintendo. I'm downloading it and playing it on my soft modded wii.

OxBlood
Aug 11th, 2011, 04:03 AM
Can´t blame you for it, if I hadn´t done these things back in the day I would never have played things like Xenogears or Parasite Eve or fucking Final Fantasy 5&6...still haven´t played Einhänder to this day

creeposaurus
Aug 11th, 2011, 04:43 PM
Age of Mythology. The last time I've played is was back was I was 15. I forgot how much I loved this game. Makes me want to play Starcraft again too.

Rongi
Aug 11th, 2011, 08:12 PM
I'm playing Chrono Trigger for the first time ever and I really like it. I'm at the part where Crono gets killed by Lavos

I would put spoiler marks but the game came out 16 years ago so f u

k0k0
Aug 11th, 2011, 08:22 PM
I got Just Cause 2 on the cheap and it really is an entertaining game. I mean, it all seems pointless because of no real story, but just fucking with shit and taking over random bases is fun. I like to pretend like I'm Launchpad Mcquack every time I get into a plane and smash the thing into a base, jumping out just in time.

Oh, and I've never called an open world game too big, but seriously, this world is too big.

Nick
Aug 11th, 2011, 10:53 PM
I just finished streaming Psychonauts. Beat it with 100%. I still love that game. I want a sequel. :(

Dr. Boogie
Aug 13th, 2011, 03:16 AM
Finally started playing Way of the Samurai 3 again.

I don't really care for the push/pull system. I get how each one works, but deciding when to pull means deciding to do it with less than half a second's notice from the NPC. Luckily, you can just wail on most of the tougher NPCs and they'll wind up flinching as they try to pull away from your button mashing.

I have a few decent swords, and I feel like I should be working towards one ending or another, but every time I see a noted NPC walking around, I just can't help myself and launch into them to get their fancy swords/spears/whatever.

OxBlood
Aug 13th, 2011, 05:16 AM
Hope you know about the Sword in the Tree Doc, that thing respawns every day, sometimes it´s even quite decent and you can always just sell it :)

Started Alice-Madness returns yesterday and was blown away by the style. The gameplay is only okay but the atmosphere ist tremendously good. I´d prefer that Xeno-Game but that´s still 10 days away....

k0k0
Aug 13th, 2011, 09:50 AM
The push/pull system was kind of tough at first since it does rely on really quick timing, but once I got it down, I could fight those 100 dude battles so quickly. I had to flip the difficulty all the way up and then it was way challenging.

I ended up downloading Borderlands GOTY edition on the pc. I have it on the 360 and have beaten it 4 times already, but it's one of my favorite games and I figured it'd be fun to try it with keyboard and mouse.

Fathom Zero
Aug 13th, 2011, 08:53 PM
SAM I AM SORRY I STOPPED TALKING TO YOU, BUT STEAM CHAT WASN'T WORKING WHILE I WAS PLAYING DAWN OF WAR II.