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Heath Ledger as the next “Joker” ?

As you may or may not have heard by now, Heath Ledger has been confirmed by Warner Bros. as "The Joker" in the next Batman movie. When I first heard rumors about Heath being considered for the role, I simply thought to myself, "Yeah right, there's no way they'd go with that guy for the zenith of comic bad guys!" And yet here many of us are, confounded with how he got the role, let alone was even considered for it. I mean look at the guy, he's not the kind of person you look at and go, "You know, he looks just like The Joker!"

A Joker's Tale?

All I know is that the fx/prosthetics department has their work cut out for 'em with Heath if they wanna make him look the part.

Ok, but looks aside, what do you think of his acting? Yeah, there's a lot of people making jokes about him being a gay cowboy joker har har har... but his acting was quite good in Brokeback Mountain. Still, I can't look past the fact that this is the same guy from "A Knight's Tale" or the TV show "ROAR". Plus, anytime I hear a mention of his name, I think of the commercials for that damned Cassanova movie where he remarks, "she was hardly a novice," in that oddly muffled voice which made me want to tear out his throat and remove whatever phlegm was causing him to speak like that. All in all, he just hasn't done enough as an actor to convince me that he's the perfect match for the role of The Joker. If Ledger doesn't do justice to the character, I'm sure Cesar Romero will jump out of his grave and make Heath swallow his own goatee.

But hey, Batman Begins was, in my opinion, pretty much the greatest superhero movie ever. Perfect casting, amazing direction and simply the best telling of the Batman story to date. Plus, the batsuit didn't have nipples... thus restoring integrity to the franchise. So it's with that in mind that I'm not going to jump to conclusions that the next Batman movie will bite just because Heath is playing The Joker. I believe quite the contrary.

I must admit, however, that I'm not nearly as excited about the movie now as I would be had they chose Crispin Hellion Glover for the role of The Joker like people were originally rumoring.

No make-up needed... he IS The Joker!

I mean the guy already looks the part without any make-up and he clearly can play "crazy" better than pretty much anyone. But even if they're not going to use Crispin Glover for the role, there's still a lot of people who could pull it off nicely. Hell, I'd honestly like to see Danny Glover give it a shot!

So what do you think? Do you believe enough in the filmmakers like I do that the next Batman movie is gonna be great, or do you think Heath "He Will Rock You!" Ledger will ruin the experience? Who else could you see playing the role of The Joker?

39 comments

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Ryan (Guest) on 08/04/2006 3:57 am

Yeehaw first post!
actually, i find it kind of disappointing althought batman begins was good. i dont know if he can pull it off, but hes australian like me, so go him.



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Smon (Guest) on 08/04/2006 4:55 am

Bad choice of acting... I'd like Mark Hamill to play him. His maniacal laughter brought life to the Joker in the cartoon, and seeing Luke Skywalker in clown make-up would make my day.



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macrodeath (Guest) on 08/04/2006 5:06 am

Oh no, god please no...

Yeah, -RoG- would be great Joker. He's skinny, aah and smiles like idiot already. If we only could see him with Joker make up, or hear his maniac laugh, it would be great.



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Shironu Akaineko (Guest) on 08/04/2006 6:10 am

Bring back Jack Nicholson! He may be old but dammit, he made a really creppy Joker! the Joker is inheritly UGLY, why pick a guy that looks so babyish and cute?

What's up Hollywood? You just wanna tack a pretty face on the screen? "Hey, Shiro, Beast is gonna be in XMen 3!"
"Sweet! who plays him?"
"Kelsey Grammer."
"....you mean voice acting, right?"

My point is, pick someone who actually fits the damn character, not the latest fashion heartthrob thingamajig.



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AngryHydralisk/Mohn-doh (Guest) on 08/04/2006 8:17 am

Talk about fucking wierd, there was a picture of Heath Ledger in Joker make-up on the net and now it's dissapeared! But yah, if Mark Hammill played the Joker I would have been sold, as his voice in the 90s cartoon was the best.



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Smon (Guest) on 08/04/2006 8:51 am

Plus he can look like the Joker. Mark Hamill can pull off some really freaky looks (case in point, Cocknocke rin Jay & Silent Bob) plus just look at this picture: http://www.preisvergleich.org/pimages/MARK-HAMILL_88__F-311.350_20.jpg
Now give it clown make up, green slicked back hair, and a big smile and you've got the Joker in a hostage situation.



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The Cannibal (Guest) on 08/04/2006 10:23 am

I personally think if they're looking for a someone with a name to play a good joker, they should go for Billy Zane. He has that cocky charisma that the Joker needs plus he plays an excellent badguy/asshole. Demon Knight, need I say more..



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Uncle Lumpy (Guest) on 08/04/2006 12:23 pm

I was kinda hoping for Jude Law, myself.



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J.Tithonus Pednaud (Guest) on 08/04/2006 12:29 pm

Crispin Glover would have been perfect in the role. Heath, I really can't see as the Joker. Perhaps they will attempt to reinvent the character. The casting of Heath seems to indicate a new direction.

~J. Titohnus Pednaud
www.thehumanmarvels.com



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Aaron (Guest) on 08/04/2006 12:47 pm

I bet he'll be able to pull it off. Not my first choice obviously but I think he's going to surprise a lot of us.



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snowwhite (Guest) on 08/04/2006 2:25 pm

jack nicholson was awful. The joker is a gangly creepy genuine sociopath. Jack Nicholson played him too big. It was obvious watching it that neither he nor Tim Burton ever read a comic book (which they have both wholeheartedly admitted). But that is neither here nor there.

Heath Ledger. Heath Ledger can probably act well enough - okay I'm saying this with more hope than conviction... but really, he can't be any worse than jack nicholson. Batman Begins suffered from Katie Holmes god awful acting and hit-in-the-face-with-a-shovel appearances... I guess we know what the challenge will be from the get-go with this one...



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vctreality (Guest) on 08/04/2006 3:13 pm

Ever since the rumors began about Crispin Hellion Glover started I've been 100% in favor of the idea. The guy is a fantastic actor and he absolutely pulls off that crazy look. But my biggest argument for him being the joker is this: imagine CHG in all the makeup and the costume...then imagine him doing the crazy Glover dance from Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter. Awesome.



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MrP (Guest) on 08/04/2006 6:00 pm

It's more about acting than looks, methinks. Heath's already shown that he can play a gay cowboy, and now he gets to play the Joker. If he pulls it off, he's got Versatility. And, fer Chrissakes, there's no way he's going to look less like the Joker than Jack Nicholson did.

What would be utterly awesome would be if the Heath Ledger Joker showed up with a cowboy hat, handbag and overly effeminate attitude in one of the scenes. It'd fit his unpredictable attitude, too.



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Jesse (Guest) on 08/04/2006 7:36 pm

I think Heath should get a shot, just because he did such a good job in Lords of Dogtown. That movie sucked, but seriously I didn't realize Heath Ledger was one of the main charachters til right at the end. DAYUUUM! they should just recast the guy who played scarecrow, AKA "Freak Face McGee" as I like to call him.



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Steve (Guest) on 08/04/2006 8:09 pm

I'm willing to give him a shot.
Batman Begins was quite awesome after all.

For all we know, Ledger could have been a giant Joker geek for years, honing his evil laugh for the day this opportunity came along.

I know I'm just wishful thinking with that scenario, but it IS possible.
In any case, I'm going to be watching this movie.

Because I DEFINATELY am a giant Joker geek.



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hobbsend (Guest) on 08/04/2006 9:12 pm

Eh, I'm not a fan of the idea of Ledger playing the joker.It was like when they made the new Superman movie, and everyone said the new guy did a great job playing Christopher Reeves.Look at the shoes he's got to fill,Cesar Romero, Jack Nicholson, hell even Mark Hamill (my favorite, I'm sorry) in the animated seires! For lack of a better phrase, the guy is lacking in geek cred.



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-RoG- (Guest) on 08/04/2006 11:14 pm

Hamill is a great off-screen, voice actor... but on screen he's pretty bad. Plus he's already done The Joker before. Just as Christian Bale brought us a new Batman, I think some other actor who's never played The Joker before is what's needed for the role... not the same old stuff we've seen and heard before. I loved both Romero and Nicholson as the Joker, but I wouldn't to see either of them play the Joker in the next Batman movie.



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johhnydamage (Guest) on 08/05/2006 12:24 am

i saw jake busey being a great joker.
-mike



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machojef16 (Guest) on 08/05/2006 4:23 pm

If I had to choose who should be the joker. They should get Jim Carry. Don't boo me he looks like the Joker more and I think he be the best look at all his roles like the Grench and Ribbler. Also don't forget Me, Myself, & Iren that shows he is good at being crazy. Well if not him why not just ask Jack Nicalison to replay the role he might be old, but he is still cool in my book. He made the movie Anger Managment not Sandler. Well thats all I have to say.



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Ninjawolf (Guest) on 08/05/2006 5:35 pm

Steve has a point. If he's actually a fan of the charcter then we might not be totally screwed. Thats why I still see hope in the Ghost Rider movie due out next year: While he doesn't really fit the role of Jimmy Blaze just right, Cage is a huge fan of the series, so he'll probably do his best work to defend the name of it. However, I haven't heard that Ledger is a fan of the Joker, let a lone a huge one, so I'm braced for dissapointment but hoping for the best.



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James (Guest) on 08/05/2006 6:08 pm

Jack Nicholson is the one and only Joker in my opinion, I think it should have been Crispin Glover over Ledger for this next movie. Heath Ledger will probably just look like a terrible ICP rip off.



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James (Guest) on 08/05/2006 6:10 pm

I also agree with everyone else, Mark Hammil was the voice of the joker in the cartoon. And he looks crazy with those crazy eyes, he would make a better joker by far.



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Jonathon (Guest) on 08/05/2006 7:22 pm

For some reason I can't see Heath Ledger doing the laugh & jumping around like a madman.



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Zigathon (Guest) on 08/05/2006 9:07 pm

Dammit! I was more than 100% behind the idea of Crispin Hellion Glover playing The Joker.

If only there was some way we could get the casting department to change their minds...

Heath Ledger is a BAD idea.



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Heroingirl (Guest) on 08/06/2006 4:28 am

Glover all the way! his look is perfect for the role. why on earth did they chose Heath Ledger for the part? i dont understand these people!?.



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MrSteveTiC (Guest) on 08/06/2006 4:35 am

Robin Williams Anyone? He's got the psycho nutbag job down pat (Onehour Photo and Insomnia anyone?) plus the comedic talent to boot....now if only they could fix that back hair



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DrBadfish (Guest) on 08/06/2006 6:20 pm

The riddler was cooler.



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Ruk (Guest) on 08/06/2006 8:28 pm

Jack Nicholson, Mark Hamill, Robin Williams, Jim Carrey: all too old. I think what Chris Nolan's been trying to do is make everyone in the Batman universe younger this go-round, and while all of these guys are indeed talented, it wouldn't fit in with the cinematic direction Nolan's looking at.

Plus, as -RoG- so eloquently said a few posts ago, Hamill's a great behind-the-scenes kind of actor these days, but not so great on-camera. He's become rather bulky himself over these past few years, which wouldn't lend itself well to the Joker character.

Jim Carrey's already been the Riddler—or did everyone forget that? And again, he may be just right on the edge there as far as age is concerned, but we're looking for somebody that can't possibly make Bale look like his son, somebody younger. And that somebody, in this case, cannot be Carrey.

Robin Williams, while indeed having both the amount of manic energy and the dramatic chops to play the part, is also too old, and it shows.

Finally, Nicholson reminds you entirely too much of Burton's "Batman," which is what I think Nolan's trying to distance himself from as far as he can: Gotham looks more like a comic-book city, rather than a gothic art student's wet dream; the character of Batman has been reinvented, redefined; and Bats even deals with the minor criminals now, too, not just the freaks who display some aura of theatricality. Batman's become more about the man himself, rather than the villains he fights against.

Where does Nicholson tie in to all of that? He represents a very different version, a different vision of the Joker we all know and love, one startlingly different from the one I'm sure Nolan's called Ledger to play.

And like a lot of you here, while I don't see why Nolan chose Ledger for the part, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, since he did such an awesome job with "Batman Begins." It's the second-best superhero movie I've ever seen (next to "Spider-Man 2"), and it took a good bit of doing to breathe new life into the Batman franchise. If Chris Nolan likes Heath Ledger, then I say we give him a shot.



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MrSteveTiC (Guest) on 08/07/2006 3:25 am

Well Said Ruk



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Ruk (Guest) on 08/07/2006 10:11 pm

Thanks, MrSteve.



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T. (Guest) on 08/09/2006 8:52 pm

Works for me. I just want to see more action this time around, fight scenes were atrocious in the first one.



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Ghost Rider (Guest) on 08/16/2006 11:20 pm

To: NinjaWolf
it's JOHNNY Blaze, not Jimmy Blaze.

To everyone else: I think they should re-animate John Wayne Gacy, give him some Liposuction, and cast him in the role of the Joker. Who better than an actual pyschopathic clown to play the role of a psychopathic clown?



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Scott (Guest) on 08/27/2006 1:14 pm

I'm skeptical, but if any director can make this work, it's Chris Nolan.



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soulcrusher (Guest) on 12/09/2007 10:33 am

Nicholson bought his role as joker, Tim Burton was going to cast Tim Curry....just imagine that! Tim Curry can pull off a creepy maniac clown really well, remember IT? [plus jask is a douche for not alowing his face to be on the toys anymore]



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aldis (Guest) on 01/24/2008 7:07 pm

Case in point. The new Batman film will require an arch enemy for the Dark Knight someone with at least the same age as our hero.

Heath Ledger probably is a good(but not a great) choice. I know Nolan and Heath can make it work. Just promise us that this film will be better than first one.

My personal choice... Crispin Glover.



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the joker (Guest) on 03/24/2008 2:51 am

Well put gents and gentettes}As you all know they could of just went down to the ole assylum and picked anyone to play me.Hmmm should I get royalties.( Ha hA HA ha )



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Marlena (Guest) on 04/29/2008 5:51 am

You try acting then asshole. It's soo much harder than u think. I bet people would want to rip out your throat because you talk like a retard. You did'nt even see the movie before posting this so how the hell could you have judged. Like I said take some fuckin acting classes and you'll find out you really suck.



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The Joker (Guest) on 07/24/2008 6:13 pm

He was fucking great as a Joker! NOBODY can beat that!



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relliKinGrunge on 08/09/2011 8:53 am

lol looking back...we all were wrong. he was The Best Joker Ever



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