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Sci-Fi Movie Geek Battle!

Ok sci-fi geeks, for no reason whatsoever (other than my own personal amusement), I wanna see you argue about three sci-fi movie series: Star Wars, Star Trek, and The Matrix. If you had to pick one of the series as the best, which would you pick? Furthermore, why do you pick it over the other movie series? What don't you like about the other series? Provide some good arguments for your choice! And no, you can't choose any other movie series. Pretend these are the only 3 sci-fi movie series that ever existed.

Let the raging discussion over sci-fi supremacy begin!

BTW, on a completely unrelated note, I've just put up a "Charles In Charge Storytime Adventure" competition on the forums where the board members will get to create a photoshopped storyline based on the characters from the show. The person who posts the most amusing addition to the story will win a brand new copy of "Charles In Charge: Season One" on DVD! Click here to view the thread and enter the contest!



poxpower (Guest) on 03/15/2006 10:56 pm

Star Wars because:

-50% of the movies were good, beat THAT, Matrix.
-The Klingon Language exists.
-"Noooooooooooooo" jokes > "Khaaaaaan" jokes.
-Everything in Star Wars actualy happened.


Ryan (Guest) on 03/16/2006 12:18 am

Star Wars. the others dont have chewbacca. 'nuff said.
beisdes. the matrix had the matrix revoloutions.


StupidNinja (Guest) on 03/16/2006 4:26 am

Star Wars: One word;"LIGTHSABER",and they don't always set their phasers/blasters on "stun" when entering a hostile enviroment.And i like the dirty look of the SW vehicles to as opposed to the shiny counterparts of ST.Matrix just plain sucks,Bullettime extravaganca


melonian (Guest) on 03/16/2006 5:14 am

Star Wars by and large!!!
Resons? megazillions...
For example, weapons and spaceships are way cooler. Dialogs are far more common to the normal mortal than "I'm the super geek trecky" ones.
Darth Vader and StormTroopers are just the most amazingly designed characters of evil of all time.
The sense of the drama is also much more convincing than in the rest, including little furry animals and other tiny beast that go "mootiniii" all the time.

The would come the Matrix, because the concept of the first film was mindblowing and the execution greatly so. Then the rest of the saga was just delighting shooting scenes but the rest practically sucked.

Never could get into Star Treck, found it too boring...I was just a kid and Star Wars had the best charachters plus the best toys, how could I chose something else!


Ryan (Guest) on 03/16/2006 6:32 am

so much for your 'battle' Rog. :P
maybe the trekkies only come out at a certain time? maybe theyre too old to use computers?


Kryten Syxx (Guest) on 03/16/2006 8:47 am

Matrix for starting giving the whole "trench coat" thing new life when I thought it was so close to death... I hate you Hot Topic.


Kryten Syxx (Guest) on 03/16/2006 8:48 am

Oops. Ignore the "starting." I still hate Hot Topic.


THRASHER (Guest) on 03/16/2006 9:02 am

i think out of these three ones Star Wars stands out as it has Snowspeeder, Outrider and Millenium Falcon and they remind us of Landmaster, Arwing and Blue-Marine and these, for instance, remind us of Super Mario


Kirbykid (Guest) on 03/16/2006 9:35 am

star wars for me, the whole universe is so huge, i am addcited to the star wars wikipedia latly, and the movies bearly touch the surface, a universe so big, its much cooler then the other two. (plus, i was born too late for the orginal Trek.)


Angryhydralisk (Guest) on 03/16/2006 10:02 am

I've never seen an episode or movie of Star Trek. I've also never seen the Matrix and since that scares everyone shitless, I'm NEVER going to see the Matrix. I get too much enjoyment shocking people by saying that.

So Star Wars, it is.


Cap’n B (Guest) on 03/16/2006 10:51 am

Jabba > whales from Star Trek 4 > Andy Wachowski.


Vegan Mike (Guest) on 03/16/2006 11:10 am

Well, I'm gonna be the lone trekkie, I suppose. Going through, all 3 are series that have some great stuff and some huge crap:

Star Wars has two good movies. Sorry, not a fan of Jedi or the prequels. The first two SW movies were absolutely awesome, though, and they've got a special place in my heart.

The Matrix has one good movie and a cool speech by The Architect in the second movie that no one but me seemed to understand. However, I'll even go so far as to say that the original Matrix movie got too action-y at the end, and dropped the intelligent plot for "let's blow the crap out of everything"... plus the movie Dark City already did something so similar in such a cooler way, and didn't end up with everything getting shot up, so I can't go with The Matrix here.

Star Trek was groundbreaking in the 60s, but fizzled out. Then the first couple of movies came out, and the even-numbered ones were awesome but the odd-numbered ones all sucked. Then The Next Generation came out... the first couple of seasons were just okay, but after that it was easily one of the best shows in TV history. The later movies were as hit-or-miss as the earlier ones, and Deep Space 9 got mixed reviews... then the latest 2 series sucked pretty badly. Yeah, another off and on franchise, but I've got to say that when TNG was going strong it was better than The Matrix or Star Wars ever were.

Though I have to say, lightsabers are pretty damn cool.


liquidcross (Guest) on 03/16/2006 12:02 pm

Star Trek. The SW prequels and the Matrix sequels were some of the worst acted, written, and directed films ever made. SW had Jar Jar and whiny Anakin, Matrix had Keanu and whiny Kid, Trek actually had distinguished actors and great stories. Game, set, and match. Even Star Trek V was a cinematic masterpiece compared to those other films.


Alan (Guest) on 03/16/2006 12:57 pm

call me crazy, i actually like the architect.
matrix trilogy.


protoclown (Guest) on 03/16/2006 1:21 pm



AHR (Guest) on 03/16/2006 1:43 pm

Star Wars.
Three words why I dont like the other two: "Revolutions" and Khaaaaaaan!!!


Max Burbank (Guest) on 03/16/2006 2:16 pm

Star Trek;

One word; Shatner.


protoclown (Guest) on 03/16/2006 2:47 pm

And if you want a real answer from me, Star Wars. At least they had three good solid movies, which is more than can be said for the others.


Darnin (Guest) on 03/16/2006 2:49 pm

Yeah. No offense, because I fall into that catagory too, you guys are nerds. I'd have to say star wars, because it's the only one I've seen that I can remember what went on in it.


nougaty goodness (Guest) on 03/16/2006 2:55 pm

Star wars... cause it has lightsabers and ewoks and incest.


Reed (Guest) on 03/16/2006 3:06 pm

Star Wars, because it's real and the others are some made-up crap.


Mr.Tickles (Guest) on 03/16/2006 3:46 pm

Star Wars had 2 good movies, 2 so-so movies, and 2 horrible turd movies.
Matrix has 1 good movie and 2 horrible turd movies.
Star Trek had more.
Quantity wins.


Martin (Guest) on 03/16/2006 4:26 pm



Citan (Guest) on 03/16/2006 4:27 pm

Captain's Log Stardate 45.6.4 no one around here seems out to dig StarTrek and nearly all of them are saying it's not that cool. From here on let's set things straight by doing them some injury for WE'RE GOING IN ARMED FOR BATTLE.
I know I may be minority here( why do I still have any doubt?) but I'm definetely one with the Enterprise Gang. Star Trek is what we can all consider as an outright complete tv show as it owns seriousness and comic moments on their right measurement. the main darn thing I'm sure everyone liked in it is that, indirectly, the plot roughly displays the most common tussle of the world(ours) that is logical thought vs. emotional reasoning.if you have to choose between saving the nature or saving the ppl, which would be more worthwhile? nonethless star wars and matrix are just as cool, but Star Trek stands out since it appeases a broader audience. summing up we can use the following assigments to see which one is truly the greatest thing ever: Star Trek-better music; Star wars-better plot(and subplots)and matrix-better graphics.


Cap’n B (Guest) on 03/16/2006 5:10 pm

Only Google can solve this connundrum!

Firstly, a Google test gives Matrix as the winner (213,000,000 results) followed by SW and then Trek (133,000,000 and 55,800,000)

Box office totals it goes SW-Matrix-Trek ($4.3bn, $1.6bn, $1bn), although none are inflation adjusted.

Star Wars is clearly the winner OF ALL TIME. I think the Matrix just beats Star Trek because there are a lot more Matrix wacko's using the net then there are Trek fanboys.


A.O. (Guest) on 03/16/2006 5:37 pm

None of them, oh my /gawd/.


Harvey_Birdman_Attorney_at_Law (Guest) on 03/16/2006 6:04 pm

Old school lightsabers > bullet time > saving whales


Tim (Guest) on 03/16/2006 6:33 pm

Star Wars by far, because a jedi could kick neos ass any day of the week, and Admiral Ackbar is way cooler than Kirk, Picard, Janeway, and Sisco combined, oh and of course Star Wars is of course based on real events :).


OMG (Guest) on 03/16/2006 7:27 pm

pity there's no Dragon Ball to choose from so i cast a vote for Star Trek as it seems to have influenced both SW and Matrix


cmar (Guest) on 03/16/2006 8:16 pm

Star Wars.

Reason why:



Zigathon (Guest) on 03/16/2006 8:30 pm

Star Wars... it has an engaging story with many central themes that we can apply to our mundane lives.

Star Trek about nerds in space. A bunch of wussy diplomats.

The Matrix is just too damn confusing and messes with my mind more than I'd like after consuming LSD.


Wolfguy (Guest) on 03/16/2006 9:37 pm

I'm gonna go with Star Wars, since lightsabers and stuff are still pretty cool now. Also Ewoks and Bothans are awesome.

I thought The Matrix was pretty cool at first, except I didn't like the characters very much. And then you got a bunch of other games and movies after it that did bullet time way better anyway.

And I never really watched Star Trek, so I can't say much about that.


me (Guest) on 03/17/2006 8:00 am

I don't like Star Wars, the Matrix or Star Trek, but i'll say SW just to be one of the group.


Ruin (Guest) on 03/17/2006 10:42 am

"...Star Wars is based on actual events?...WTF?!"


wiggyman (Guest) on 03/17/2006 1:15 pm

Some epic battle you got here Mock, what becomes of the epic when everybody agrees?

I'm also gonna have to go with Star Wars, the original trilogy are still my favorite movies. Star trek comes at a distant second, I dont specifically care about it but a previous post of nerds in space seems to fit it nicely. The Matrix on it's own would have been enough to make it first place, but they had to dumb it down with two sequels which were nothing but big explosions, big fights and tight leather. ugh.

On the upside, V for Vendetta has made me want to kill the Wachowski brothers just a little less :D


john (Guest) on 03/17/2006 1:22 pm

I have to say battle star Galatica ((new version)) haha, editing style and masterful writing had made this a standard in what sci-fi should be!
Star Wars had 2 good movies, Star Trek had about 2. Matrix had 1. If it was a race it be a tie in good movies.
The only thing you can relate to Star Wars was there was a dictator and everyone can go on about there dictator stories from there other than that wasteful in sci-fi imagination we end up with cheesy lightsaber battles that can be in LOR for all I care!
Matrix had a problem of not explain itself in a fact that everything was a chase. Star wars episode 3 had that problem to. For it’s sci-fi you create and let it be foren to the viewers, if you do start to relate then there is a problem for there ideas probably ended up flat. Star Trek had one good thing going for it is that it’s rich in a vast world of races and culture of it’s own federation is to why it lasted pretty long just lets go and blame Enterprise. Star Wars was like, I do not know, oh this planet oh and this one, lets add a creature here and there, what the hell!! It’s like they wing it almost.


tasakeru828 (Guest) on 03/17/2006 1:23 pm

Have you noticed that nearly everyone voting for SW can't spell?

Anyways, I'm voting for Trek. Face it, guys: Without Trek, Star Wars and the Matrix wouldn't even EXIST, most likely. And at least most Star Trek fans that I know are actually intelligent...


Ganny (Guest) on 03/17/2006 1:58 pm

I choose Star Wars for following Reasons
-cool Plot
-fairly realistic battles
-not counting the prequels
I've seen the Matrix and though it was okay but, as many have said, very confusing.
star Trek I don't really know but it seems okay,
I juast can't really say if i would like it or not.


Gabe Vines (Guest) on 03/17/2006 5:08 pm

I say Star Wars because of one simple line from Episode 3. "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" -Anakin


Vertigo200 (Guest) on 03/17/2006 5:12 pm

, and so it's quite obviously superior to and, specially, . After all, is much more interesting that seeing or . I mean, c'mon, how many can you remember that hasn't become cliché and/or boring? Just think about the !

And Star Wars is based on real facts, so it’s an automatic victory.


Vertigo200 (Guest) on 03/17/2006 5:14 pm

Translation for above post:

(Insert random Star Wars quote), and so it's quite obviously superior to (Insert random Star Trek quote) and, specially, (Insert random Matrix quote). After all, (Insert random Star Wars scene) is much more interesting that seeing (Insert random Star Trek scene) or (Insert random Matrix scene). I mean, c'mon, how many (Insert random Matrix scene) can you remember that hasn't become cliché and/or boring? Just think about the (Insert random Matrix music)!

And Star Wars is based on real facts, so it’s an automatic victory.


Jimboni (Guest) on 03/17/2006 5:59 pm

Lt. Worf > Chewbacca

'nuff said


Jesse (Guest) on 03/17/2006 6:49 pm



I challenge the Wachowski bros to write a better theme song.


Omega Avatar (Guest) on 03/17/2006 7:04 pm

Star Wars, because lightsabers are cool & Darth Vader is my favorite movie villian ever.


Amanda (Guest) on 03/17/2006 9:24 pm

Star Wars is full of too many whiners--Anakin and the early Luke cannot be compensated for by Chewbacca or Han Solo, I'm sorry. Plus George Lucas is the biggest merchandising whore of all time, and I have zero respect for the prequels. The Matrix never should have been a trilogy--it turned into a special effects marathon with no substance (much like the SW prequels). So STAR TREK definitely gets my vote (the original, no TNG) because of its ground-breaking material, hilariously eclectic cast, and fun plots.


StupidNinja (Guest) on 03/18/2006 4:12 am

Star Trek had one good thing going for it is that it’s rich in a vast world of races and culture of it’s own federation is to why it lasted pretty long just lets go and blame Enterprise. Star Wars was like, I do not know, oh this planet oh and this one, lets add a creature here and there, what the hell!! It’s like they wing it almost.
Comment by john 03.17.06 @ 1:22 pm

SW is by far a more richer and versatile world.The empire for example includes more than one million star systems as opposed to roughly one hundred and fifty star systems of Starfleet.And SW canon is much bigger and show an array of diversity that ST dpes'nt have to offer.


Wolfguy (Guest) on 03/18/2006 6:14 am

To be fair, the reason SW has such a huge canon is because Lucas has basically said that anything anyone anywhere writes involving Star Wars is canon. Book about a wookie Jedi? Canon. Book about a tree Jedi? Canon. Chewie/Threepio slash fiction? Yeah, that's canon.

...God, I think I just depressed myself with that last one. Way to go, me.


DrDude (Guest) on 03/18/2006 7:39 am

With the original Star Wars, Lucas couldn't have been less involved. He stole the scenario, he stole the characters and added two homosexual robots, he stole the culture and just set in space. Thats it. He created a setting and adequately shot a film, where he left all the special effects the movie is revered for to other people, as well as single handedly handing over all creative input and control from the director to the producer. Way to go Lucas, you definately deserve all the kudos. If anything the last Star Wars films should've proved Lucas can't write. Shut up about Lucas.

But despite Lucas' involvement, Star Wars (the originals) are entertaining nonetheless, despite the cheesy storyboard in which everyone seems to be related. As well as some ephebophilia in the later terrible films in which *GREAT LEAP* the homosexual robots are replaced with infuriating aliens.

However the Matix one of very few movies that has unstimulating and dull action and just scenes in general. Maybe if the Wachowski brothers weren't plagiarizing super geeks and the action choreographer wasn't overly obsessed with fighting that looks like dancing and wires then the Matrix could preserve someones interest longer than five minutes. Also the Matrix wasn't the only thing to use bullet time. Get over it.

The early Star Trek movies can be entertaining if you manage to remain objective and not be swayed by the fact someone is dressed up like a Clingon(?) reading an English-Clingon Dictionary. The Star Treks used to be purely premise entertainment as well as the captain getting green pussy. The 'what if' story but slowly became overly focused on character interaction and the setting. I don't care if it's in space and theres only so many times I can hear Scotty say "I can' push it anymore capt'in" or Kirk profess his love for Spock. I hate the post Shatner ones. Highly concentrated character interaction and fucking includes a stupid android with a pinnochio complex as main character.

Sci Fi is one of those genres (like fantasy) that barely extends beyond setting and characters which suits most geeks. I'd expect to see the unrestricted Sci Fi to make at least a political, social or religion commentary (Star Wars is contrived and superficial) or alter and IMPROVE upon action sequences (swords made out of light are still swords as are wave making punches) or introduce philosophical questioning or ANYTHING EXTRA. Otherwise they are just dramas in denial, set in space with wacky and zany weapons. Which one do I think is better? Star Trek of course. Where else can you see William Shatner perform extreme overacted (if he could act) poses?


Darth Poop (Guest) on 03/18/2006 11:24 am

Star Wars! Woooooooo! Do I really need to explain it?


Jreed (Guest) on 03/18/2006 4:30 pm

Star Wars,and to me,being the only,including the prequels!Woooooh!But goddamn you Lucas for not killing off Jar-Jar Binks.


Mister Jack (Guest) on 03/19/2006 12:17 am

None of them, you losers. Hahaha, sci-fi sucks as much as animae. All you Trekkies, I'll be seeing you on my bumper along with all the Sailor Moon characters.


Ruin (Guest) on 03/19/2006 12:37 am

...Homosexual robots?...Funny,and here I thought you had to actually be Alive to have sexual preferences. Oh and in my last comment I forgot to say my vote's for Star Wars. Why you ask? YODA.


Chris23 (Guest) on 03/19/2006 4:58 am

Starwars? Is it any good? Should I rent it on DVD?


Misdemonar (Guest) on 03/19/2006 12:49 pm

You all lose.


tasakeru828 (Guest) on 03/19/2006 1:49 pm

Why do all these morons think that Star Wars is based on real events...? Sheesh. Some of you need to drink bleach.


Teh Black Cat (Guest) on 03/19/2006 2:25 pm



Dude (Guest) on 03/19/2006 3:16 pm

My vote goes for Star Trek.

Why? Because out of all the options, it took the longest to get lame.

I mean seriously. Star Wars took two decades to get lame (the second, shittier trilogy) and The Matrix went downhill after the first one.

Not to say The Matrix and (original) Star Wars don't kick ass, its just that Star Trek has more staying power.

That and the average Trekkie has way more mass than the average Matrix or Star Wars fan. Apparently in the future fried chicken will fall from the sky and exercize will be a capital offence.

I can't wait!


Chris (Guest) on 03/19/2006 4:08 pm

Star wars


Cal ‘ lugosi (Guest) on 03/19/2006 8:01 pm

Star Wars original trillogy.
ild say all of star wars, but i can never forgive obi wan and his younglings, anakin and his pointless pod racing, princess leia and her dopped to the eye balls singing, vaders noooooooooooooooooooooo and finaly, george lucas and his terrible habbit of blue screening 90% of a movie.


Shane Skekel (Guest) on 03/19/2006 10:02 pm

I don't really have a favorite. They're all great; besides, you wanted SW prequels,
you bothered Lucas for years, and if it wasn't for SW; movies these days would still use celluloid for special effects (Celluloid is best left for 2D cartoons).


Despair (Guest) on 03/19/2006 10:13 pm

Well, all of you are starwars fans are on crack. Three words. Captain Freaking Kirk. There is no arguement in which you will prevail as victor against me as Captain Kirk is behind me all the way. Want another reason? Borg. Cubes. Coolest crap ever. Ps. First matrix was good, last two blew. Starwars? teh supporters of incest!11111!111unoshift please we only need that in the south.


OH NOES!! (Guest) on 03/20/2006 12:11 am

Definitely Lord of the Rings...

Oh wait...

well, after LOTR, SW I guess...


Ulttimo (Guest) on 03/20/2006 2:48 am

Ok girls, time to put this to rest. Start crying you SW wookie heads. Star Trek wins hands down and I'll give you one reason, the only reason, James T Kirk. How can this be you ask? Sit back on your Ewok fur bean bag chairs and prepare to be enlightened.

First, Captain Kirk has beaten the crap out of every single alien life form in the galaxy. Hell, they shipped in aliens from other galaxies and he still kicked thier asses. He's personally handed the Klingon Empire more defeats than they've suffered in their entire military history. You sneak up behind a Klingon and yell "Look, there's Captain Kirk!", that Klingon will crap his pants on the spot. Kirk emasculated an entire warrior race!

Women. When Kirk ran out of alien men to beat down he was bedding their women. Size, shape, skin color... didn't matter. As long as it was female Kirk was on it. Darth Vader was practically a virgin. Luke was trying to do his sister. God knows what Han and Chewie were doing on those long smuggling runs. Jedi have to swear off sex or some crap like that. Still wanna be a Jedi?

You can say Jedi this or Wookie that, it does not matter. Kirk never met either, but if he did, he would have kicked thier ass. And he didn't have any special Jedi powers, no mind tricks or light sabers. It was all Kirk baby! Lets see a Jedi deflect a phaser on wide dispersal disintegrate. Not gonna happen.

Someone claimed Admiral Ackbar as being cool??? Come on, he lost over half his fleet fighting the Empire in Return of the Jedi! If Kirk was commanding, they might have lost a handful of fighters and a support ship or two.

It's no contest. Kirk has defeated gods. Gods! Let's see a Jedi do that! One more factor in his favor is that he was never a whiney little bitch! Luke was bad enough, but his father was a much bigger whinier bitch. Darth Vader may at one time have been close to the almighty Kirk in reputation but the prequel trilogy destroyed all that.

In conclusion, Star Trek did not have Jar Jar Binks. 'Nuff said.


Ryan (Guest) on 03/20/2006 6:14 am

how much would one of darth vader's kidney stones gone for?


LIQUID SKY (Guest) on 03/20/2006 10:08 am

HELLSING- Two noteworthy aspects of this artwork are the development of the style and the lack of traditional femininity in female characters.
screw it, there aint no HELLSING here so I will stay with Star Trek for it was a TV show too and it's much tougher to produce tvshows than it's to produce flicks


Darth Fozzy (Guest) on 03/20/2006 2:21 pm

Star Wars, hands down. Chewy, ewoks, a younger Carrie Fisher (sp?) in a frimpy gold bikini.

Sure, you've got Captain Kirk fucking some hot green bitch every other episode--but was said green bitch chained to an enormous slug?

I rest my case.


Jesse (Guest) on 03/20/2006 4:05 pm

I am changing my vote. I agree with Teh Black Cat, The Passion of the Christ is the best Sci-Fi ever.


LIN KUEI (Guest) on 03/20/2006 4:32 pm



mars (Guest) on 03/20/2006 8:02 pm

sw has a good plot? wtf! good vs evil,thats the entire plot,a 2 year old could come up with something more complex.

i vote trek,even thou the matrix was the best movie trilogy ever made,trek has more good episodes then anything sw or the matrix could ever hope to come up with.

ever wonder why phones look and sound like the communicaters on trek?

youll never see a light saber thou,too stupid and dangerous for any practicle use.


ImaLemming (Guest) on 03/20/2006 9:35 pm

Star Wars got us Spaceballs.

Plus, I've only seen the first Matrix, and I've never seen a Star Trek movie.


Azael (Guest) on 03/21/2006 2:09 am

Stars Wars is superior. Two words: Force Choke
"I force choke my ho's when they don't bring da dough!"


Azael (Guest) on 03/21/2006 2:10 am

oh yeah, and Light Sabers!
[]xxx[]||||||||||||||||||||||| WOOSH!


Barthalen (Guest) on 03/21/2006 5:19 am

Star Wars -> For kids
The Matrix -> For emo kids
Star Trek -> For slightly older kids.

ST wins, but mostly thanks to the Next Generation and Deep Space 9. Evolving storytelling and ethic dilemma's win over cute puppets, cringeworthy dialogue, the absence of the 'star' and the 'wars' in most of the prequels, leather coat wearing frowny men, underground raves and boring characters.
And thank god the Architect didn't whip out a lightsaber to kick some arse...


StupidNinja (Guest) on 03/21/2006 8:38 am

Eclipse Stardestroyers,World devastators,Suncrushers,Death stars,Force-users and a million gazillion ship,figthers etc.The Empire (thus SW)uber everything.


Doozle (Guest) on 03/23/2006 5:14 pm

Star Wars; you just can't (anymore) get excited over star trek, series upon series have mushed it into something grey and lifeless...

Like a dead, floppy worm.

Oh, lightsabers. Gotta have those.


Phobophle (Guest) on 03/25/2006 5:40 pm

I vote Star Trek. Capt. Picard killed people with holographic Tommy Guns!

The only saving graces in Star Trek were Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, and James Earl Jones. The first two were better in Batman and Indiana Jones, respectively, and JEJ lost it when he agreed to shout "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!".


Corey (Guest) on 03/25/2006 10:37 pm

Although I love Star Wars, I have to say somethings in Star Treks defense, since I like that too, and Star Wars already has enough arguments for.

First of all, Star Trek is one of the only shows that makes you feel smarter when watching it. Think about it. If you watch pretty much any of the time travel episodes from Next Generation, you feel like you deserve a masters in quantum physics. The only part of the Matrix that makes you feel smarter is that Archetect speech, and that was only hard because he through in the words "ergo" and "visa vi" for no reason, and I'm pretty sure watching the Star Wars prequels actually LOWERS your intelligence.

The Matrix was good. Reloaded was subpar. Revolutions was basically what happens when you take a fun movie, then remove the fun part surgically.

And another thing in Star Trek's defense: Not once has any directors gone back to remake the old Star Trek episodes because they realized they were great already. George Lucas pretty much changes the original trilogy every three hours. Soon, he'll pretty much remove everything good about it.

I can almost see it...

In this edition you get:
-Dewbacks in the background of every shot.
-A new scene that shows Ewoks getting it on.
-All the lightsabers are replaced with walkie talkies.
-Obi Wan now speaks in Hutt language the entire film.
-A new, 45 minute scene that shows Jabba the Hutt eating a box of Tatooine donuts
-Geedo shoots first, kills Han, and for the rest of the movie, Han Solo is replaced by Jar Jar Binks


timrpg (Guest) on 03/27/2006 6:07 pm

two words, Han Solo


The Sajuuk-Khar (Guest) on 03/27/2006 8:39 pm

V for Vendetta

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mlvassallo (Guest) on 03/31/2006 2:20 pm


Citan- for a guy who claims he did that- you should have had a lot more to say about Star Trek.

Star Wars ftw!


GRim Rapper (Guest) on 09/23/2006 12:25 am

eh, i personally was a fan of battlestar galactica, but if i had to choose between those 3, it'll be star trek( the one with kirk)


Doctor_dumbass (Guest) on 09/23/2006 12:32 am

ONe has a guy gettin laid by ailens..
another has a guy fighting in a videogame...
and yet another has gay robots, lazer swords, lazer guns,a princess with cinamon bun hair, and over a bajilion species of ailens.. they all sound good to me!


Captain Ka-Ka (Guest) on 09/27/2006 10:12 pm

if you think about, ALL of these movies were good in the begining. then George Lucas tore down the popularity and the admiration people had for his original movies by making episodes 1,2,and 3. Star Trek wasn't changed much, but all the time traveling and alternate universes and different versions of the enterprise gets confusing and annoying pretty quick. The matrix and MAtrix reloade wre pretty good, but the third one wasn't. So, my point is i like them all when they're the original,classic thing, not some new crap


Doctor dumbass (Guest) on 11/14/2006 6:28 pm

totally agree with ya, captain

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